Play Watch Dogs on a Good Game Instead: Watch Dogs IV - General

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vntTG3wRVyA[/media] This is actually really impressive.

Holy fuck how do people make shit like this?

If watch dogs was made on the engine that GTA IV was made on, it would have been a much better game.

gta iv modders are complete bullshit. i refuse to acknowledge anyone who practices black magic.

[QUOTE=SuperHoboMan;45832044]If watch dogs was made on the engine that GTA IV was made on, it would have been a much better game.[/QUOTE] Cool thing about this mod is that police chases are probably more challenging because it doesnt give you a "press x to win pursuit" prompt.

[QUOTE=T-Sonar.0;45832097]Cool thing about this mod is that police chases are probably more challenging because it doesnt give you a "press x to win pursuit" prompt.[/QUOTE] The pursuits in watch dogs are pretty full on...

He should've shown off the ability to actually be hit by a train

[QUOTE=SuperHoboMan;45832044]If watch dogs was made on the engine that GTA IV was made on, it would have been a much better game.[/QUOTE] Ever since GTA 4 every open world game that didnt have Natural Motion stuff felt a little empty.

jesus that's awesome

I can't believe what they do with this game. This is fantastic.

[QUOTE=abananapeel;45832158]Ever since GTA 4 every open world game that didnt have Natural Motion stuff felt a little empty.[/QUOTE] Every since GTA 4 every game with ragdolls has felt primitive as shit, except all the Rockstar games after it

[QUOTE=SuperHoboMan;45832044]If watch dogs was made on the engine that GTA IV was made on, it would have been a much better game.[/QUOTE] Can't really agree. Watch Dogs would have been absolutely terrible with GTA4's Euphoria engine stuff.

i hate euphoria (GTA IV's version specifically,) it's clunky and unresponsive, and is only good for things not being controlled by a player. it's one of those things that completely ruins game feel. momentum and physics have their place in movement but GTA IV is the worst example. there i said it.

[QUOTE=Gamerman12;45832591]i hate euphoria (GTA IV's version specifically,) it's clunky and unresponsive, and is only good for things not being controlled by a player. it's one of those things that completely ruins game feel. momentum and physics have their place in movement but GTA IV is the worst example. there i said it.[/QUOTE] Your opinion is wrong

julio is pretty darn talented, he's also the one who made the hulk script i believe

[QUOTE=Gamerman12;45832591]i hate euphoria (GTA IV's version specifically,) it's clunky and unresponsive, and is only good for things not being controlled by a player. it's one of those things that completely ruins game feel. momentum and physics have their place in movement but GTA IV is the worst example. there i said it.[/QUOTE] you are completely wrong. re-evaluate your beliefs because they will get you nowhere

[QUOTE=doctordarken;45832606]Your opinion is wrong[/QUOTE] GTA4 would have been terrible if it was any faster paced or more action-y though.

[QUOTE=TheHydra;45832736]you are completely wrong. re-evaluate your beliefs because they will get you nowhere[/QUOTE] -snipped, unrelated point- or how about just moving around? I have to do this slow ass turn to move myself around while running, while in a game like San Andreas it turns on a dime and you're able to make quicker decisions and have better reflexes (like a game should) instead of being grounded in reality. or how about when i jump? it's slow to react to my hit's and completely breaks the flow of movement. or hell, even shooting takes what feels like a millennium to fire. the only time the game really reacts to the player is when you look down ironsights and going into cover. if you want to see an example of my point being done right, and bear with me here, try any old-school platformer like megaman, mario, or shooters like quake, half-life/hl2, etc. those games let you control your speed and jump arcs and shit. while they are kinda out there in terms of the conversation, i hope they kinda show what i'm talking about, giving the player control. if the player doesn't have control, then what's the point of even having them. taking it away bit by bit because you need to have some [I]ultra-cinematic movement[/I] in your game is just silly. granted those look worse in terms of game feel (see saint's row,) especially when you're grounded in reality, but it can still work and feel alright depending on how you emphasize other things (see saint's row.) IV grounded itself in this grit and bullshit that didn't fit in the series, which was pretty much the direction for everything else in GTA IV at the time, graphics, storyline, gameplay, and all, and implementing realistic things into a game only holds you back more. i want to be a badass in my over-the-top third person shooter game, hard to do that when im flopping around like some ragdoll on ski's [B]but please don't get me wrong, the improvements to euphoria over the last half-decade or so (if they're still using it) for Red Dead and GTAV are [U]fantastic[/U], and create a great balance between realism and gameplay.[/B] sorry for the long winded response, i just really hate the things euphoria stood for in GTA IV

Aiden looks weird without his scarf. Or maybe it's the animation.

[QUOTE=RichyZ;45833233]the driving isnt because of euphoria the game uses havok for its physics and the handling of cars is done via an easy to config file however iirc the running/walking in the game is done via euphoria and canned animations and is sluggish because of it, which sucks butts and is actually bad[/QUOTE] oh really? shit i'm sorry. snipped.

Amazing this game and it still looks better than that nice awful piece of trash Ubisoft released..

[QUOTE=tehMuffinMan;45832130]He should've shown off the ability to actually be hit by a train[/QUOTE] and the lack of invisible walls

[QUOTE=Gamerman12;45832591]i hate euphoria (GTA IV's version specifically,) it's clunky and unresponsive, and is only good for things not being controlled by a player. it's one of those things that completely ruins game feel. momentum and physics have their place in movement but GTA IV is the worst example. there i said it.[/QUOTE] TBH Euphoria probably the main reason why I can still play GTA IV to this day and have loooaaads of fun.

[QUOTE=proch;45833709]TBH Euphoria probably the main reason why I can still play GTA IV to this day and have loooaaads of fun.[/QUOTE] It's fun, I really cannot argue with that, but it shouldn't be in super action focused games. At least not in the form it was in GTA IV.

jesus christ he implemented basically every single element of watch dogs gameplay

[QUOTE=Gamerman12;45832591]i hate euphoria (GTA IV's version specifically,) it's clunky and unresponsive, and is only good for things not being controlled by a player. it's one of those things that completely ruins game feel. momentum and physics have their place in movement but GTA IV is the worst example. there i said it.[/QUOTE] GTA IV is clunky as hell and it plays like hell, however, this has nothing to do if euphoria since it's only active when needed like if you are drunk, burning, falling, getting run over etc. The actual walkcycle for instance, th, and all other player or NPC movements and interactions or the horrible cover system are not affected by the euphoria physics routine. It's like saying Half Life 2 controls are sluggish because it uses havok ragdolls.

Euphoria was great in The Force Unleased games. I loved making chains of storm troopers

[QUOTE=elowin;45833909]It's fun, I really cannot argue with that, but it shouldn't be in super action focused games. At least not in the form it was in GTA IV.[/QUOTE] It seems like a lot people don't know what Euphoria is and what it does. The regular movement in GTA IV doesn't use Euphoria for anything, it's just sluggish because that's the way they programmed it. Max Payne 3 uses Euphoria also and it's not sluggish at all, but again, it has nothing to do with Euphoria. It's only enabled on the player character in certain situations, like being drunk in GTA IV or shoot dodging in Max Payne. [QUOTE=Gamerman12;45833227] sorry for the long winded response, i just really hate the things euphoria stood for in GTA IV[/QUOTE] I agree with most of the things you said, I hated the clunky movement in GTA IV. But it has NOTHING to do with Euphoria.

This mod shows how lazy and generic Watchdogs was as a game, gameplay wise..

euphoria is the key to success