Texas executes inmate for killing missionary in $8 robbery - Polidicks

[url]http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article38024145.html[/url] [IMG]http://pics.mcclatchyinteractive.com/news/nation-world/national/gt8owv/picture38024139/ALTERNATES/FREE_960/Texas%20Execution[/IMG] [QUOTE]No late appeals were filed for Juan Martin Garcia, who was put to death for the September 1998 killing and robbery of Hugo Solano in Houston. Solano, a Christian missionary from Guadalajara, Mexico, had moved his family to the city just weeks earlier so his children could be educated in the U.S. Read more here: [url]http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article38024145.html#storylink=cpy[/url][/QUOTE] I'm not really anti death penalty but this is bullshit.

[QUOTE=agentfazexx;48845391] I'm not really anti death penalty but this is bullshit.[/QUOTE] [quote]Garcia, who was linked to at least eight aggravated robberies and two attempted murders in the weeks before and after Solano’s death[/quote] [quote]Garcia, his two cousins and another man had already carried out a carjacking when they spotted the 36-year-old Solano[/quote] [quote]Solano was shot four times in the head and neck.[/quote] [quote]Garcia was arrested more than a week later when he dropped a gun while getting out of a car that police had pulled over for a broken headlight. He was released but arrested again when the gun was matched to Solano’s slaying.[/quote] "but this is bullshit"

Not bullshit. Code laid out who he was perfectly.^ Asshole stole a man's life, someone who was married and had children and who came here hoping his children could get a good education, for no reason at all. What a terrible human being. But watch as people come out of the woodwork to defend him.

Good riddance. Some people are straight up scum and don't deserve to live.

[QUOTE=Govna;48845576]Not bullshit. Code laid out who he was perfectly.^ Asshole stole a man's life, someone who was married and had children and who came here hoping his children could get a good education, for no reason at all. What a terrible human being. But watch as people come out of the woodwork to defend him.[/QUOTE] He should have been reformed and educated properly! Nah, but really, I'm all for the death penalty with this type of stuff. Any pursuit of reform or re-education for this guy would have just been wasted.

I bet the guy didnt even puy up a fight. I still dont agree with the death penalty, doesnt mean I wouldnt at least paralyze this guy if given the chance

And nothing is really accomplished, no benefits from his death other than sated bloodlust I wont lost any sleep over him but the death penalty is still just a waste

[QUOTE=SelfishDragon;48846646]And nothing is really accomplished, no benefits from his death other than sated bloodlust I wont lost any sleep over him but the death penalty is still just a waste[/QUOTE] Thank god my uncontrollable desire to kill has been satisfied for the time being. Thanks Texas

[QUOTE=darkshadow321s;48845656]Good riddance. Some people are straight up scum and don't deserve to live.[/QUOTE] No matter how true that maybe (which it isn't), capital punishment is pretty much state control to the absolute extreme. Morality is subjective, and to say someone is undeserving of life with something as subjective as that is ridiculous. Seeing someone not deserving of life because they see someone not deserving of life is as counter-productive as it gets.

Objectively the Death penalty is expensive and a waste of taxpayer money. Subjectively I find it wrong, even if you don't "hur re-educate" them. I don't think the state should be allowed to take anyone's life away who's already pacified.

[QUOTE=SelfishDragon;48846646]And nothing is really accomplished, no benefits from his death other than sated bloodlust I wont lost any sleep over him but the death penalty is still just a waste[/QUOTE] yeah nothing about his chance to kill more people being completely nullified

[QUOTE=SelfishDragon;48846646]And nothing is really accomplished, no benefits from his death other than sated bloodlust I wont lost any sleep over him but the death penalty is still just a waste[/QUOTE] Saves the tax payers a few hundred thousand dollars to keep him locked up, and that's far more valuable than his disgusting life

[QUOTE=TheTalon;48846990]Saves the tax payers a few hundred thousand dollars to keep him locked up, and that's far more valuable than his disgusting life[/QUOTE] You're wasting even more money killing him lol, don't you get that Appeals are a very necessary process to our judicial system Appeals for the death penalty are made often These appeals cost lawyers these lawyers are paid with taxpayer dollars Every criminal has a right to an attourney and a right to fight for his life

[QUOTE=TheTalon;48846990]Saves the tax payers a few hundred thousand dollars to keep him locked up, and that's far more valuable than his disgusting life[/QUOTE] ackshually it costs taxpayers about 3 times more to execute a prisoner than the cost to jail them for life. Especially in this case with the court cases and appeals spanning over ten years.

[QUOTE=TheTalon;48846990]Saves the tax payers a few hundred thousand dollars to keep him locked up, and that's far more valuable than his disgusting life[/QUOTE] Applying monetary value to human life. Excellent work.

[QUOTE=Ivef;48847016]ackshually it costs taxpayers about 3 times more to execute a prisoner than the cost to jail them for life. Especially in this case with the court cases and appeals spanning over ten years.[/QUOTE] Thats what he said...

[QUOTE=Aldawolf;48846996]You're wasting even more money killing him lol, don't you get that Appeals are a very necessary process to our judicial system Appeals for the death penalty are made often These appeals cost lawyers these lawyers are paid with taxpayer dollars Every criminal has a right to an attourney and a right to fight for his life[/QUOTE] Not everyone uses those appeals.

Goodnight then, don't let the door hit your ass.

I'm still against the death penalty.

For me capital punishment will always mean that a murderer will never murder again, and regardless of how things are financially, it's a favourable outcome for society

Good riddance.

I see both sides and find it hard to choose just one. Sure, the death penalty is a horrible thing and a massive waste of money, and sure, scum like this don't deserve the privileged of life if they were to so callously take it themselves. But honestly, the whole "do unto others as you would have them do unto you" strikes a pretty good chord in this situation.

[QUOTE=NotMeh;48847179]For me capital punishment will always mean that a murderer will never murder again, and regardless of how things are financially, it's a favourable outcome for society[/QUOTE] It also means that sometimes, an innocent man will never see the light of day again.

[QUOTE=NotMeh;48847179]For me capital punishment will always mean that a murderer will never murder again, and regardless of how things are financially, it's a favourable outcome for society[/QUOTE] as opposed to a murderer never committing murder again in prison? (No we're not talking about prison murders,that's just shitty security)

[QUOTE=Headhumpy;48848141]It also means that sometimes, an innocent man will never see the light of day again.[/QUOTE] As opposed to an innocent man rotting in a cell for 50 years and then getting a "haha sorry" pat on the back? How is that any better? Both systems aren't perfect and there will always be unfortunate sacrifices, instead of blaming the methods of punishment, the improvements and criticism should go towards the investigations themselves [QUOTE=Matrix374;48848165]as opposed to a murderer never committing murder again in prison? (No we're not talking about prison murders,that's just shitty security)[/QUOTE] What? Murder is murder, security has fuck-all to do with it Are other inmates not human beings in your books?

[QUOTE=soccerskyman;48847054]Applying monetary value to human life. Excellent work.[/QUOTE] [quote]As of 2011, the Environmental Protection Agency set the value of a human life at $9.1 million. Meanwhile, the Food and Drug Administration put it at $7.9 million — and the Department of Transportation figure was around $6 million.[/quote] (Some people have put it as low as $129,000) Statistically speaking, it's immature to say that human life is infinitely valuable. It's something that has to be considered when weighing costs/benefits of decisions that could involve loss of human life. If you have a prisoner that has, for the purpose of this argument, zero chance of ever being reformed and re-integrating to society and has also committed some terrible, atrocious deed - I think it would be safe to say most of us would make a decision of life in prison versus capital punishment purely on the argument of cost. Especially if the difference was drastic and not pocket change. The irony here is, as was said, due to long, strained-out costs for all the court proceedings, it's usually cheaper to go with the life-in-prison route than the death penalty. Which is a good thing, as there have been far too many instances of wrong convictions or cases solved 10-30 years after the fact.

[QUOTE=NotMeh;48849736] What? Murder is murder, security has fuck-all to do with it [/QUOTE] In a prison with good security,chances of prisoners acquiring weapons would be very rare and so murder wouldn't happen unless some guy got really unlucky and made a hard enough punch to kill someone. [quote]Are other inmates not human beings in your books?[/quote] [quote]As opposed to an innocent man rotting in a cell for 50 years and then getting a "haha sorry" pat on the back? How is that any better? Both systems aren't perfect and there will always be unfortunate sacrifices, instead of blaming the methods of punishment, the improvements and criticism should go towards the investigations themselves[/quote] Also,other inmates are humans but apparently wrongly accused death row inmates aren't :huh: Even if you can reduce the errors in investigations you can still get out of a life sentence if such errors occur unlike a death sentence. Some people would prefer to cling on the hope of actually getting out of prison than dying you know

[QUOTE=NotMeh;48849736]As opposed to an innocent man rotting in a cell for 50 years and then getting a "haha sorry" pat on the back? How is that any better? Both systems aren't perfect and there will always be unfortunate sacrifices, instead of blaming the methods of punishment, the improvements and criticism should go towards the investigations themselves What? Murder is murder, security has fuck-all to do with it Are other inmates not human beings in your books?[/QUOTE] Lifers don't pose a higher risk to general population inmates. Source: [url]http://escholarship.org/uc/item/2xk8s2dh;jsessionid=7F73DE902A70054A2F56C7131AA5ACF3#page-17[/url]

I'm still not for the death penalty, this guy should get life.