India passes new rape law with much harsher punishments for sexual crimes - Polidicks

[img]http://imgkk.com/i/zbz9.jpg[/img] [url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-21826247[/url] [quote]A bill containing harsher punishments for rapists, including the death penalty, has been passed by India's lower house of parliament. It comes after the fatal gang rape of a student in Delhi in December sparked demands for tougher laws. After a seven-hour debate on Tuesday, members of the lower house gave their assent to the Criminal Laws (Amendment) Bill. It now passes to the upper house. The legislation contains new penalties for stalking, groping, voyeurism and acid attacks. Under the changes, the minimum sentence for gang rape, rape of a minor, rape by policemen or a person in authority will be doubled to 20 years and can be extended to life without parole.[/quote]

Good.

Of course this is dependent on the courts finding the man guilty of rape.

[quote=Article]and [B]acid attacks.[/B][/quote] Welp, new fear instated

Now they need to fix social problems. This law won't be of much help if nobody is reporting rape.

[QUOTE=ZestyLemons;40006408]Welp, new fear instated[/QUOTE] Seriously, what's up with those acid attacks?

[QUOTE=laserguided;40006414]Now they need to fix social problems. This law won't be of much help if nobody is reporting rape.[/QUOTE] I agree. They also need to start in the schools.

[QUOTE=IKTM;40006614]Seriously, what's up with those acid attacks?[/QUOTE] Makings for battery acid are easily available. That's what comes to mind for them.

Sucks that a white girl has to get raped for things to change.

[QUOTE=Shadaez;40006871]Sucks that a white girl has to get raped for things to change.[/QUOTE] The Delhi gang rape victim was Indian, are you thinking of the Swiss tourist who was raped last week?

[QUOTE=Forumaster;40006388]Of course this is dependent on the courts finding the man guilty of rape.[/QUOTE] Weren't you the same guy who thought India was an Islamic theocracy or something?

[QUOTE=Shadaez;40006871]Sucks that a white girl has to get raped for things to change.[/QUOTE] It's more that an international traveler got raped. Because, you know, letting a guy rape a tourist is definitely good for trade. But then again the Swiss are neutral. Probably because that English lady almost got raped.

[QUOTE=Shadaez;40006871]Sucks that a white girl has to get raped for things to change.[/QUOTE] A huge majority of the India rape cases have been Indian women. It's nitpicky and blatantly ignorant to think that the entire reasoning behind this law was the rape of a single white woman. No, it's the cumulative rapes of thousands of Indian women - most of which have been in the news. Laws take time.

20 years to life, even the death penalty for [I]rape[/I]?

[QUOTE=PowerBall v1;40008944]20 years to life, even the death penalty for [I]rape[/I]?[/QUOTE] Being murdered is preferable to living with the memory of rape for lots of people I've spoken to.

[QUOTE=Shadaez;40006871]Sucks that a white girl has to get raped for things to change.[/QUOTE] Why not just wear a swastika, Shad? [editline]23rd March 2013[/editline] I mean, seriously, are you retarded or something? A country of over a billion people and you think one white victim is the whole reason that the people are pushing for change? What, all those brown women not important enough? Not human enough? Because whether or not you realized that you were implying that, that's sure as fuck what you were implying. Maybe you didn't realize just how stupid that sounded, but damn, that made my blood boil.

[QUOTE=archangel125;40009086]Why not just wear a swastika, Shad? [editline]23rd March 2013[/editline] I mean, seriously, are you retarded or something? A country of over a billion people and you think one white victim is the whole reason that the people are pushing for change? What, all those brown women not important enough? Not human enough? Because whether or not you realized that you were implying that, that's sure as fuck what you were implying. Maybe you didn't realize just how stupid that sounded, but damn, that made my blood boil.[/QUOTE] I saw that edit. You called her some "white bitch". You don't get to call people out about being inhuman if you say that shit about a victim of rape (or anyone, to that point).

[QUOTE=Mlisen14;40009164]I saw that edit. You called her some "white bitch". You don't get to call people out about being inhuman if you say that shit about a victim of rape (or anyone, to that point).[/QUOTE] Yes, well, I used the word 'bitch' and thought better of it a few seconds later when my initial rage had subsided somewhat. That's what people do when they're angry, they tend to use harsh language. [editline]23rd March 2013[/editline] Every single day my colleagues and I work towards a more tolerant society, person by person, little by little. It's extremely painful for me to see that such ugly ignorance exists even among members of this website, a community I've come to respect in my time here. So yes, I was enraged that this jackass could imply that the other women who had been raped weren't as important to a country of Indians as one white tourist.

[QUOTE=archangel125;40009177]Yes, well, I used the word 'bitch' and thought better of it a few seconds later when my initial rage had subsided somewhat. That's what people do when they're angry, they tend to use harsh language.[/QUOTE] Understandable. Next time take a few deep breaths before posting. That's what I do when I get angry. Aside from that: Maybe harsher punishment will help to secure the women down there, but I doubt it will do much good. After all even rape is caused by something and that's far more worrying considering the recent attacks.

I think that India will need to keep the punitive justice system alive for a little while longer until education and a semblance of metropolitan sensitivities are widespread enough that a rehabilitative justice system is more efficient. This will also require that the government work towards improving the plight of the poor. When primary socialization is patriarchal, as it is in so many of the remote villages from which these men so often come, rehabilitative justice just doesn't have the right impact.

[QUOTE=archangel125;40009086]Why not just wear a swastika, Shad? [editline]23rd March 2013[/editline] I mean, seriously, are you retarded or something? A country of over a billion people and you think one white victim is the whole reason that the people are pushing for change? What, all those brown women not important enough? Not human enough? Because whether or not you realized that you were implying that, that's sure as fuck what you were implying. Maybe you didn't realize just how stupid that sounded, but damn, that made my blood boil.[/QUOTE] That's not at all what it seemed he was implying to me. It seemed more as if he was saying that, essentially yes all the Indian women that were being raped were essentially being cast aside and something was only done because of the outcry of the latter event. More that it was a shame that it took something out of the "norm" to get something done. Still a stupid point because it's not really accurate but I think that was a pretty massive overreaction.

To change that primary socialization, the central government needs to project its power more into these remote villages, and come up with a sort of standardized education curriculum for the entire country. That'll be far more difficult than it sounds - India is home to many hundreds of dialects of scores of languages.

[QUOTE=archangel125;40009177]Yes, well, I used the word 'bitch' and thought better of it a few seconds later when my initial rage had subsided somewhat. That's what people do when they're angry, they tend to use harsh language. [editline]23rd March 2013[/editline] Every single day my colleagues and I work towards a more tolerant society, person by person, little by little. It's extremely painful for me to see that such ugly ignorance exists even among members of this website, a community I've come to respect in my time here. So yes, I was enraged that this jackass could imply that the other women who had been raped weren't as important to a country of Indians as one white tourist.[/QUOTE] Shadaez is hardly making a value judgement on the worth of each victim. He/she just seemed to think the law was rushed through as a reaction to a high profile tourist rape case. It was actually brought to the lower house last month, so you're right that they were wrong (which hardly warrants you getting so angry about it). In any case, it stands that it shouldn't take a brutal rape to be the impetus for this kind of legislation.

Eh. This issue's too close to home for me in more ways than one. I'm also suffering insomnia and it's making me... twitchy. So I'll stay away for a bit.

[QUOTE=archangel125;40009177]Yes, well, I used the word 'bitch' and thought better of it a few seconds later when my initial rage had subsided somewhat. That's what people do when they're angry, they tend to use harsh language. [editline]23rd March 2013[/editline] Every single day my colleagues and I work towards a more tolerant society, person by person, little by little. It's extremely painful for me to see that such ugly ignorance exists even among members of this website, a community I've come to respect in my time here. So yes, I was enraged that this jackass could imply that the other women who had been raped weren't as important to a country of Indians as one white tourist.[/QUOTE] So you were "offended". Stop acting like it entitles you to anything. Noone cares.

Funny thing, in my profession we're asked to identify what our emotional triggers might be. I think I just found one of mine.

[QUOTE=Forumaster;40006388]Of course this is dependent on the courts finding the man guilty of rape.[/QUOTE] god damn due process getting in the way of my justice

[QUOTE=archangel125;40009226]Eh. This issue's too close to home for me in more ways than one. I'm also suffering insomnia and it's making me... twitchy. So I'll stay away for a bit.[/QUOTE] THEN JUST STOP POSTING. This isn't your blog [QUOTE=archangel125;40009234]Funny thing, in my profession we're asked to identify what our emotional triggers might be. I think I just found one of mine.[/QUOTE] Reported.

[QUOTE=PowerBall v1;40009242]THEN JUST STOP POSTING. This isn't your blog Reported.[/QUOTE] Hmm, you seem to be quite as upset as I was. Maybe you should follow my example and take a short break, compose yourself.

Good, death penalty is much needed to clear out the scum, but of course only when there is much evidence, don't want any innocents being executed.