• Man Serving Life Sentance for Cannabis Possession Gets Sentance Commuted
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[QUOTE] Missouri Gov. Jay Nixon has granted pardons to three men and two women convicted of non-violent offenses. According to the governor's office, all have completed their sentence and have become law-abiding citizens. The governor has commuted the sentence of [B]Jeffrey Mizanskey[/B] to make him eligible for parole consideration. In 1996, Mizanskey was sentenced as a persistent drug offender to life without the possibility of parole. “In the case of the commutation, my action provides Jeff Mizanskey with the opportunity to demonstrate that he deserves parole,” Gov. Nixon said.[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.kfvs12.com/story/29137547/mo-gov-jay-nixon-grants-5-pardons[/url] Step in the right direction
Possession? How much did he possess to land for life?
[QUOTE=itisjuly;47809557]Possession? How much did he possess to land for life?[/QUOTE] apparently he was convicted over and over and over for drug offenses until he worked his way up to life without parole.
[QUOTE=_jesterk;47809660]apparently he was convicted over and over and over for drug offenses until he worked his way up to life without parole.[/QUOTE] Talk about honest ambition right there.
Alcohol = Legal = More harmful Weed = Illegal = Less Harmful This world...
[QUOTE=_jesterk;47809660]apparently he was convicted over and over and over for drug offenses until he worked his way up to life without parole.[/QUOTE] really should not apply to nonviolent possession charges
What the hell did he do? Try to blow up a building with a dank bomb or something?
Life without parole for smoking a fucking plant. Judges who gave out similar sentences should be disbarred IMO.
[QUOTE=Poppadomus;47809686]Alcohol = Legal = More harmful Weed = Illegal = Less Harmful This world...[/QUOTE] Pot being legal is one thing the North Koreans have done right.
Don't forget that the other people were convicted for even less than possession. [quote]A substance abuse counselor who in 1979, was convicted of misdemeanor marijuana possession in St. Louis County, and paid a $100 fine. A former loan officer who was given a suspended execution of sentence in St. Francois County after being convicted of misdemeanor stealing for taking two deposits from her employer. The woman who now lives in Tennessee returned the amount she stole and successfully completed a two-year term of probation. A school bus driver for nearly three decades who was convicted of misdemeanor non-support in Douglas County and spent less than two weeks in the county jail before completing his probation. A woman who in 1970 was convicted in Cape Girardeau County of misdemeanor stealing of items valued at $1.46 from a store. She paid a $45 fine. A carpenter and truck driver who in 1961, he and two others, broke into a grocery store in Mercer County and stole several items. He was convicted on misdemeanor burglary and larceny charges and received a three-year term of probation, which he successfully completed.[/quote]
[QUOTE=agentfazexx;47809764]Pot being legal is one thing the North Koreans have done right.[/QUOTE] That and political comedy.
[QUOTE=Poppadomus;47809686]Alcohol = Legal = More harmful Weed = Illegal = Less Harmful This world...[/QUOTE] To be fair, as far as I know we know a lot more about the effect of Alcohol on the human body in various different circumstances than we know about Cannabis. I don't think it should be illegal regardless however, if people want to deal with potential side effects it's their choice. The only thing the government should be doing is making them aware of said potential side effects.
[QUOTE=agentfazexx;47809764]Pot being legal is one thing the North Koreans have done right.[/QUOTE] Hence why is the commie's herb!
Wow I thought this was from Indonesia or somewhere similiar. Was really surprised that you can get life in prison for cannabis in the USA, I mean what the hell? Can someone explain this? Is this like the three strikes law or whatever it's called? Life in Prison for Weed??
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[QUOTE=Noss;47809743]Life without parole for smoking a fucking plant. .[/QUOTE] you're making it seem more simple than what it actually is
[QUOTE=Evi.tf;47810239]you're making it seem more simple than what it actually is[/QUOTE] But it is exactly what it is. The plant is relatively harmless in comparison to other drugs such as Alcohol, Tobacco, and painkillers, yet people are being arrested left and right and are having their lives ruined over what they decide to put in to their own body.
[QUOTE=The Saiko;47809881]Wow I thought this was from Indonesia or somewhere similiar. Was really surprised that you can get life in prison for cannabis in the USA, I mean what the hell? Can someone explain this? Is this like the three strikes law or whatever it's called? Life in Prison for Weed??[/QUOTE] I'm pretty sure US laws have mandatory sentances as well as shit like the three strikes. Get charged with possession three times? Automatically you have to receive x punishment. Since marijuana is a schedule 1, I'm sure if you're convicted enough you HAVE to get the max sentance.
[QUOTE=Noss;47810337]But it is exactly what it is. The plant is relatively harmless in comparison to other drugs such as Alcohol, Tobacco, and painkillers, yet people are being arrested left and right and are having their lives ruined over what they decide to put in to their own body.[/QUOTE] It's 100% because the feds can't tax it. That's it.
[QUOTE=agentfazexx;47810349]It's 100% because the feds can't tax it. That's it.[/QUOTE] The government can literally tax anything it wants.
[QUOTE=Noss;47810337]But it is exactly what it is. The plant is relatively harmless in comparison to other drugs such as Alcohol, Tobacco, and painkillers, yet people are being arrested left and right and are having their lives ruined over what they decide to put in to their own body.[/QUOTE] We've had a market in america for legally killing yourself since forever; really boggles my mind when you think about it. [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQmpqvoEpws[/media] Honestly; I believe Nixon's war on drugs and the stigma created revolving around weed was one of the biggest reasons it isn't legalized across America today
[QUOTE=Paramud;47810529]The government can literally tax anything it wants.[/QUOTE] I think what he's getting at is that almost all state governments are not going to touch it on "medical" grounds, but they will absolutely go for it if you make a bill which lays out the groundwork for them. It was actually stated in the North Dakota Legislature that they outright refuse to accept medical marijuana, and that they'd only accept something which lays groundwork for marijuana legalization.
[QUOTE=agentfazexx;47810349]It's 100% because the feds can't tax it. That's it.[/QUOTE] They can pretty easily at any point between the seed to the smoke. You can have a tax stamp system for planting X number plants. Maybe $100 per plant per year? Would be a good way of getting money for it without taxing sales. Or you can have a tax on how much of it is sold by weight, allowing personal growers to get it for free/cheap, while commercial is more expensive. Or you can have a tax on end user small scale sales or derivative products. Want a pot brownie premade? Expect a tax on it. Want some thc vape juice? Expect a tax on it. They should go with the first one, it is probably the best solution to most problems. People won't make hidden grow-ops(too expensive to manage/maintain vs legal, as well as risks of being caught), and the government will get the money on a reasonably consistent basis. There is a tobacco tax after all.
[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;47810615]I think what he's getting at is that almost all state governments are not going to touch it on "medical" grounds, but they will absolutely go for it if you make a bill which lays out the groundwork for them. It was actually stated in the North Dakota Legislature that they outright refuse to accept medical marijuana, and that they'd only accept something which lays groundwork for marijuana legalization.[/QUOTE] For good reason. Even being a huge marijuana advocate myself, it's not a medical plant. It can help as a form of medicine, but is it medicine straight up? No. It can help with serious symptoms of many things, but it doesn't combat anything illness related. It'll fight nausea, vertigo, loss of appetite, and a whole host of other small maladies, but to say that it'll cure anything or act as a medicine is wrong. It's helpful, but again, not medicine. It should be legal, as the government allows me to buy enough cigarrettes to kill myself, but doesn't allow me to buy marijuana which doesn't directly cause anything in and of itself. It's a sign of hypocrisy and we should just drop this medical half measure and prepare for legalization along recreational lines. People are free to drink, they should be free to toke up a plant that has undergone more studies that we can shake a book at.
I think that the real reason that the government don't want to legalise marijuana is that it would be an absolute nightmare in terms of taking back everything they've said about marijuana and the laws that they have been implementing for the past century. Furthermore, the profitability of private prisons and the arrest rates of police departments would decrease if it were to be legalised. It is far easier for the government to claim that the prohibition of the drug is in the interest of public safety than having the humility to admit that what they did was wrong, and try to fix said wrongdoing. Hopefully within the next few decades, we'll look back on marijuana prohibition negatively in the same way that alcohol prohibition is viewed largely negatively.
[QUOTE=Noss;47810731]I think that the real reason that the government don't want to legalise marijuana is that it would be an absolute nightmare in terms of taking back everything they've said about marijuana and the laws that they have been implementing for the past century. Furthermore, the profitability of private prisons and the arrest rates of police departments would decrease if it were to be legalised. It is far easier for the government to claim that the prohibition of the drug is in the interest of public safety than having the humility to admit that what they did was wrong, and try to fix said wrongdoing. Hopefully within the next few decades, we'll look back on marijuana prohibition negatively in the same way that alcohol prohibition is viewed largely negatively.[/QUOTE] The largest lobbies in america working against legalization are the Prison and guards union. That should say something.
[QUOTE=The Saiko;47809881]Wow I thought this was from Indonesia or somewhere similiar. Was really surprised that you can get life in prison for cannabis in the USA, I mean what the hell? Can someone explain this? Is this like the three strikes law or whatever it's called? Life in Prison for Weed??[/QUOTE] i almost landed 3 months for a joint.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;47810723]For good reason. Even being a huge marijuana advocate myself, it's not a medical plant. It can help as a form of medicine, but is it medicine straight up? No. It can help with serious symptoms of many things, but it doesn't combat anything illness related. It'll fight nausea, vertigo, loss of appetite, and a whole host of other small maladies, but to say that it'll cure anything or act as a medicine is wrong. It's helpful, but again, not medicine. It should be legal, as the government allows me to buy enough cigarrettes to kill myself, but doesn't allow me to buy marijuana which doesn't directly cause anything in and of itself. It's a sign of hypocrisy and we should just drop this medical half measure and prepare for legalization along recreational lines. People are free to drink, they should be free to toke up a plant that has undergone more studies that we can shake a book at.[/QUOTE] I completely agree. Whilst marijuana does have some medical applications, the stoners saying that marijuana is the cure for all illnesses in the world are hurting the cause equally as much as those who are against legalisation. All misinformation does on either side is hurt the perceived legitimacy of the genuine arguments that people are making.
[QUOTE=proch;47809845]To be fair, as far as I know we know a lot more about the effect of Alcohol on the human body in various different circumstances than we know about Cannabis. I don't think it should be illegal regardless however, if people want to deal with potential side effects it's their choice. The only thing the government should be doing is making them aware of said potential side effects.[/QUOTE] There was a 3-month study that concluded HEAVY amounts of cannabis intake leads to a slight, but still significantly negative difference in your cognition, short-term and long-term memory (in remembering the instances where there was cannabis intake only), and overall mental ability. The medical study (I'll find it if anybody wants but I don't have it currently) said heavy intake translated to around 70-100 "joints of cannabis" a week. In my opinion, that is beyond reason of use of the plant, there are people who have been smoking for decades and I can only think they keep themselves sharp by doing something or they would have to have had some form of mental depreciation. Anyone who has been really high can understand how being really high all the time would have a detrimental effect on your mental state. Try saying "be as drunk as you can be without throwing up all the time" and tell me if that person doesn't have mental degradation, extremes for anything. Understand if there was an average "habitual smoker", which is honestly hard to measure down to just "joints" (lol), I would bet they wouldn't smoke more than 2-4 joints a day = 14-56 joints a week, and 56 is only if they just want to smoke themselves dumb everyday or have been smoking a while. Good news is, the study also concluded that when you stop smoking, even after having had mental degradation from heavy usage, your mental ability returns with no problems. [editline]26th May 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Noss;47810753]I completely agree. Whilst marijuana does have some medical applications, the stoners saying that marijuana is the cure for all illnesses in the world are hurting the cause equally as much as those who are against legalisation. All misinformation does on either side is hurt the perceived legitimacy of the genuine arguments that people are making.[/QUOTE] Marijuana is not medicine until it's in the pill form or vaporized in working vaporizer imo, otherwise it can create more and sometimes worse symptoms compared to before you took the "medicine". Smoking causes lung problems, and often times, edibles are "overdosed" which leads to some crazy instances, though I'm almost positive there hasn't been a case of somebody actually dying from weed. Some get their stomach pumped or do some crazy shit, but not death.
I found it funny and ironic that he has the nixon last name
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