Official trailer's here :dance:
[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Nxc-3WpMbg[/media]
First one was excellent. One of my favorite movies ever. Can't wait for this one.
I can't wait for more bad VFX followed by the most godly of camerawork and choreography. Bring it on.
nice cast for sure. didnt know pedro pascal is in it too
There's a pretty big spoiler at the end. So don't watch it if you don't like that kind of stuff.
On the hip flask at 1:08, looks like [sp] the american version of the Kingsman is called the Statesman, and of course they're totally corny american caricatures.[/sp] This looks like it's gonna be a lot of fun.
[sp]American [texan?] spy with a cowboy lasso?[/sp]
this looks friggin great
[QUOTE=Darth_Toast;52147319]On the hip flask at 1:08, looks like [sp] the american version of the Kingsman is called the Statesman, and of course they're totally corny american caricatures.[/sp] This looks like it's gonna be a lot of fun.[/QUOTE]
that was already confirmed
[sp]plus the statesman agents are named after alcohol.[/sp]
the first movie felt like a modern version of the more ridiculous roger moore era james bond and i am so excited for this one
The Statesmen are the USA equivalent of Kingsmen.
Their leader is [sp]Jeff Bridges[/sp] and his codename is [sp]Jack Daniels[/sp].
It's like someone took a wonderful dream I never knew I had and made it real.
First movie set up a cool universe but was effectively a two hour training montage, with most of the good scenes backloaded into the last half hour. Cautiously optimistic about the sequel since it will (hopefully) be free of origin story baggage.
Also cowboy spies
Man, talk about great writing
One of the few recent movies where its original and kickass
As long as they don't fuck up the ending like they did with the first one, it'll be great.
Easily the big summer action film I'm looking forward to the most. All the action seems to have the same oomph as the first
[QUOTE=shian;52147673]Man, talk about great writing
One of the few recent movies where its original and kickass[/QUOTE]
Not to ruin it for you but although it's actually pretty different in tone and content Kingman is based on a Mark Millar comic.
Though I'm pretty sure this sequel is 100% original
[QUOTE=Coyoteze;52147676]As long as they don't fuck up the ending like they did with the first one, it'll be great.[/QUOTE]
What was wrong with nice Scandanavian Princess ass?
[QUOTE=ZombieDawgs;52147732]What was wrong with nice Scandanavian Princess ass?[/QUOTE]
Nothing inherently, [B][I]if[/I][/B] they'd set the precedent early on in Eggsy's character that he was a womanizing stud, and that they built up to it somehow. But they never did. If anything, they wrote him as quite the opposite, and the scene came out of absolutely nowhere.
I get that the movie is supposed to be a bit of a Bond-parody in a sense, and that's great. But Eggsy had a pretty specific character build-up that went in a pretty clear direction, only to take a complete 180 heel-turn at the end, in a scene with a character we've seen for like 2 minutes at that point. Not to mention the absolutely awful line-delivery and just writing in general.
Don't get me wrong, I loved the first movie, it had perfect comedic timing and a solid narrative structure that had a clear character progression. It was 2 hours and 8 minutes of amazing that ended with 1 minute of total trash. And that's a [I]huge[/I] shame. It's like they wrote the whole movie with a great love and passion and then realized [I]"Uh shit, we have 5 minutes left until the deadline and no ending... Uhhh... I got it! Eggsy saves the princess and then gets to fuck her in the ass"[/I]. Like holy shit, what the fuck is this and who thought this rushed shit was a good idea? It really left a bad taste to an otherwise great movie.
So wait
The kingsmen were founded when we had a queen?
[QUOTE=Coyoteze;52147771]Nothing inherently, [B][I]if[/I][/B] they'd set the precedent early on in Eggsy's character that he was a womanizing stud, and that they built up to it somehow. But they never did. If anything, they wrote him as quite the opposite, and the scene came out of absolutely nowhere.
I get that the movie is supposed to be a bit of a Bond-parody in a sense, and that's great. But Eggsy had a pretty specific character build-up that went in a pretty clear direction, only to take a complete 180 heel-turn at the end, in a scene with a character we've seen for like 2 minutes at that point. Not to mention the absolutely awful line-delivery and just writing in general.
Don't get me wrong, I loved the first movie, it had perfect comedic timing and a solid narrative structure that had a clear character progression. It was 2 hours and 8 minutes of amazing that ended with 1 minute of total trash. And that's a [I]huge[/I] shame. It's like they wrote the whole movie with a great love and passion and then realized [I]"Uh shit, we have 5 minutes left until the deadline and no ending... Uhhh... I got it! Eggsy saves the princess and then gets to fuck her in the ass"[/I]. Like holy shit, what the fuck is this and who thought this rushed shit was a good idea? It really left a bad taste to an otherwise great movie.[/QUOTE]
You're just pissed because she was swedish.
[QUOTE=Viper123_SWE;52147802]You're just pissed because she was swedish.[/QUOTE]
....????? no??? I'm sorry I value the integrity of character writing and don't like to see 2 hours of build-up be thrown out the window for a low-brow anal-joke?
[QUOTE=Butthurter;52147894]its like im reading the exact same complain people have about gay characters in media except that its straight this time wtf[/QUOTE]
What. This has nothing to do with a display of sexuality of any kind, it has to do with how strange it is for a character like Eggsy, who has a very defined personality, to display a personal trait that is never once accounted for throughout the movie. The ending is out-of-character. It breaks development. It's inconsistent. It's got nothing to do with "smh straight people" or whatever you think I'm saying. I'd be perfectly fine with the scene if it was built up to properly and it was actually part of Eggsys character, but it wasn't.
[editline]25th April 2017[/editline]
Like, take with the actual James Bond for instance. We know he's a womanizing stud because he's established as such several times early on in several movies. And that's fine. Even if you'd never seen a Bond-movie before you'd get that out of his character just from the way he just is. [I]And it works.[/I] With Eggsy you never get that, so it makes no sense for his character to get an ending that contradicts the personality setup.
This looks like its going to be so much fun.
[QUOTE=Coyoteze;52147771]Nothing inherently, [B][I]if[/I][/B] they'd set the precedent early on in Eggsy's character that he was a womanizing stud, and that they built up to it somehow. But they never did. If anything, they wrote him as quite the opposite, and the scene came out of absolutely nowhere.
I get that the movie is supposed to be a bit of a Bond-parody in a sense, and that's great. But Eggsy had a pretty specific character build-up that went in a pretty clear direction, only to take a complete 180 heel-turn at the end, in a scene with a character we've seen for like 2 minutes at that point. Not to mention the absolutely awful line-delivery and just writing in general.
Don't get me wrong, I loved the first movie, it had perfect comedic timing and a solid narrative structure that had a clear character progression. It was 2 hours and 8 minutes of amazing that ended with 1 minute of total trash. And that's a [I]huge[/I] shame. It's like they wrote the whole movie with a great love and passion and then realized [I]"Uh shit, we have 5 minutes left until the deadline and no ending... Uhhh... I got it! Eggsy saves the princess and then gets to fuck her in the ass"[/I]. Like holy shit, what the fuck is this and who thought this rushed shit was a good idea? It really left a bad taste to an otherwise great movie.[/QUOTE]
I can't tell whether you are right or wrong (for the record I've seen the movie and wasn't huge on it once it got towards the last half hour), but you appear to be the only one saying anything substantial or making an argument, which is kinda funny.
also i didn't realise it was anal until now rip.
[QUOTE=REMBER;52147313]There's a pretty big spoiler at the end. So don't watch it if you don't like that kind of stuff.[/QUOTE]
It was confirmed several times that [sp]Colin Firth will return as Harry[/sp]
finally, we're making cowboys cool again
[QUOTE=REMBER;52147313]There's a pretty big spoiler at the end. So don't watch it if you don't like that kind of stuff.[/QUOTE]
kind of saw it coming
[sp]he was pretty awesome in the first, he had to come back someway[/sp]
[QUOTE=REMBER;52147313]There's a pretty big spoiler at the end. So don't watch it if you don't like that kind of stuff.[/QUOTE]
Not really. They announced it a while back, and was even on one of the teaser posters
Red Band version
[video]https://youtu.be/51RWcaJfRUU[/video]
[QUOTE=Coyoteze;52147921]What. This has nothing to do with a display of sexuality of any kind, it has to do with how strange it is for a character like Eggsy, who has a very defined personality, to display a personal trait that is never once accounted for throughout the movie. The ending is out-of-character. It breaks development. It's inconsistent. It's got nothing to do with "smh straight people" or whatever you think I'm saying. I'd be perfectly fine with the scene if it was built up to properly and it was actually part of Eggsys character, but it wasn't.
[editline]25th April 2017[/editline]
Like, take with the actual James Bond for instance. We know he's a womanizing stud because he's established as such several times early on in several movies. And that's fine. Even if you'd never seen a Bond-movie before you'd get that out of his character just from the way he just is. [I]And it works.[/I] With Eggsy you never get that, so it makes no sense for his character to get an ending that contradicts the personality setup.[/QUOTE]
actually you're the one who completely misses the point of character development - he's grown from a clumsy idiot to a kingsman much like the man who taught him but with the ideals and personality traits of a modern man, but because of his class he's perfectly capable of bedding any woman he wants now
a character doesn't have to be an estabilished womanizer to womanize later down the line
[QUOTE=Egevened;52148752]actually you're the one who completely misses the point of character development - he's grown from a clumsy idiot to a kingsman much like the man who taught him but with the ideals and personality traits of a modern man, but because of his class he's perfectly capable of bedding any woman he wants now
a character doesn't have to be an estabilished womanizer to womanize later down the line[/QUOTE]
If that was the case they should have showcased his "growth" during or after the montages and flash-forwards after his training. Shoehorning in something that completely contrasts previously given character traits is objectively lazy from a narrative point of view. If it [I]was [/I]a character trait that came from him "becoming a Kingsman" (which, last time I checked, had a lot to do with being a gentleman and very little to do with womanizing), then they had [I]plenty [/I]of time to establish that character development. But they didn't. They settled on jamming it into the last minute, making it a total inconsistency from the previous setup. It's a jarring and unnecessary addition that added absolutely nothing to his character and just made for a very strange, and out-of-place scene in a movie with otherwise very finely crafted structure.
[editline]25th April 2017[/editline]
I should add that it doesn't help at all that the Princess' line and delivery is beyond cringey. "If you save the world, we can do it in the asshole!". Who the fuck wrote that and thought it was a good way to end the film?
[QUOTE=Egevened;52148752]actually you're the one who completely misses the point of character development - he's grown from a clumsy idiot to a kingsman much like the man who taught him but with the ideals and personality traits of a modern man, but because of his class he's perfectly capable of bedding any woman he wants now
a character doesn't have to be an estabilished womanizer to womanize later down the line[/QUOTE]
No it was just a dumb ending. Eggsy doesn't "earn" it, the princess (who barely rates as a character btw) straight up tells him "get me out of here and you can fuck me in the ass" and he just stands there with a dopey grin. Like sure haha it's silly and crass, but please don't try to pass it off as inspired writing, especially when it comes from the same mind that thought the ideal spy movie is set in bootcamp for 60% of the runtime.
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