• Man rams car into bus stop, then proceeds to attack with cleaver, before being shot by armed securit
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[video]https://youtube.com/e4oBuz4br2k[/video] [QUOTE]Two Palestinians armed with a knife and a gun have launched a deadly attack on a Jerusalem bus, killing two Israelis and injuring three more in the worst day of violence since the start of the current escalation in tensions. In an almost simultaneous attack in a Jewish neighbourhood of the city on Tuesday morning, an assailant rammed a car at speed into a bus stop before stabbing bystanders, killing one and injuring two others. e showed those waiting at the stop thrown into the air and the driver, a man in a blue T-shirt, running from the car with what appears to be a meat cleaver and hacking at one of the people knocked down. He moved on to start attacking an older looking ultra-orthodox man before being shot by a security guard. By 1pm local time three Israelis had been killed in four separate attacks and more than 20 injured, half a dozen of them seriously, as Israeli security forces moved to swamp Jerusalem. There were also two reported stabbing attacks in the central Israeli city of Ra’anana. Amid calls by Jerusalem’s mayor, Nir Barkat, to seal Palestinian neighbourhoods of the city, the Israeli prime minister, Binyamin Netanyahu, ratcheted up his rhetoric at a special session of the Knesset on Tuesday evening. “Israel will settle scores with those who are killing and those who are encouraging them. Anyone who raises their hand against us will have their hand cut off,” he told the session.[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/13/jerusalem-bus-stabbing-escalation-in-violence-israel-palestine[/url] [editline]14th October 2015[/editline] [video]https://youtube.com/watch?v=e4oBuz4br2k[/video]
man it's a clusterfuck other there,.
Two sides of the same fucking coin yet again. Whilst Israel creates more lebensraum by illegally annexing land you have Hamas and others stirring shit up all whilst mindless acts of violence like this are committed by both sides against each other.
Israel is the lesser of two evils here. You'd have to be braindead to deny it.
[QUOTE=0x0000000C;48896691]Israel is the lesser of two evils here. You'd have to be braindead to deny it.[/QUOTE] Then I am braindead. Both sides are as bad as each other, both have aggressors who commit atrocities regularly.
[QUOTE=0x0000000C;48896691]Israel is the lesser of two evils here. You'd have to be braindead to deny it.[/QUOTE] This isn't a "who is better" contest.
[QUOTE=0x0000000C;48896691]Israel is the lesser of two evils here. You'd have to be braindead to deny it.[/QUOTE] Nah they really aren't.
[QUOTE=katbug;48897393]Nah they really aren't.[/QUOTE] You've got to be kidding right? You know why this whole killing and maiming spree started? Because the PA made up some baseless rumour about Temple Mount. If you think that the PA is the lesser of the two evils, you are fucking kidding yourself.
holy fuck, machete dude just kept going
[QUOTE=DogGunn;48897521]You've got to be kidding right? You know why this whole killing and maiming spree started? Because the PA made up some baseless rumour about Temple Mount. If you think that the PA is the lesser of the two evils, you are fucking kidding yourself.[/QUOTE] They are both assholes, but strategically, for the west, it is better for Israel to be in power. They are culturally similar enough to the western world that an alliance is possible. The PA is simply going to be too alien to work with and it will, inevitably, lead to further conflict and death. Both sides do terrible things, we just happen to work better with one over the other. I generally back certain Kurdish groups for similar reasons. They adopt western ideals, which means we gain common ground for negotiations and alliances.
[QUOTE=DogGunn;48897521]You've got to be kidding right? You know why this whole killing and maiming spree started? Because the PA made up some baseless rumour about Temple Mount. If you think that the PA is the lesser of the two evils, you are fucking kidding yourself.[/QUOTE] I think they're both horrible. One's a clearly more capable force which antagonizes constantly and is essentially a hostile invasion force, the other is a weaker nation being encroached on slowly by literally their mortal enemies.
And just to think that in a thread a few days ago, that someone effectively said it's impossible for Israelis to be victims... I hope the Israeli security forces crack down hard on those behind these awful assaults.
[QUOTE=katbug;48897646]I think they're both horrible. One's a clearly more capable force which antagonizes constantly and is essentially a hostile invasion force, the other is a weaker nation being encroached on slowly by literally their mortal enemies.[/QUOTE] This guy in the video was an Israeli-Arab with a good paying job for an Israeli telecommunication company - he even did this in his work vehicle... It's the PA's constant lies and bullshit which is causing this. Not Israel.
[QUOTE=GunFox;48897644]They are both assholes, but strategically, for the west, it is better for Israel to be in power. They are culturally similar enough to the western world that an alliance is possible. The PA is simply going to be too alien to work with and it will, inevitably, lead to further conflict and death. Both sides do terrible things, we just happen to work better with one over the other. I generally back certain Kurdish groups for similar reasons. They adopt western ideals, which means we gain common ground for negotiations and alliances.[/QUOTE] is this part of a grand strategy game playing out in your head or what because no one gives a shit who you "back" [editline]13th October 2015[/editline] every comment in this thread is making out like these two countries are characters in a television drama
How many times did he shoot that guy??
[QUOTE=Kommodore;48898160]is this part of a grand strategy game playing out in your head or what because no one gives a shit who you "back"[/quote] Thanks for posting /r/worldnews' new stance on the conflict!
[QUOTE=DogGunn;48898305]Thanks for posting /r/worldnews' new stance on the conflict![/QUOTE] what does that even mean
[QUOTE=Kommodore;48898160]is this part of a grand strategy game playing out in your head or what because no one gives a shit who you "back" [editline]13th October 2015[/editline] every comment in this thread is making out like these two countries are characters in a television drama[/QUOTE] This was unnecessarily aggressive.
yeah you're condeming millions of lives to the tune of some bizarre 19th century imperial roleplay of your own imagining and i'm aggressive
[QUOTE=DogGunn;48897812]This guy in the video was an Israeli-Arab with a good paying job for an Israeli telecommunication company - he even did this in his work vehicle... It's the PA's constant lies and bullshit which is causing this. Not Israel.[/QUOTE] What you just said literally has nothing to do with this. I don't give a fuck about the character of the man who was killed. I don't know why you do. It's not relevant and doesn't address what I said at all. [t]http://cdn0.vox-cdn.com/assets/4756436/IP_conflict_deaths_total.png[/t] Killing people is bad.
[QUOTE=katbug;48898647]What you just said literally has nothing to do with this. I don't give a fuck about the character of the man who was killed. I don't know why you do. It's not relevant and doesn't address what I said at all. [t]http://cdn0.vox-cdn.com/assets/4756436/IP_conflict_deaths_total.png[/t] Killing people is bad.[/QUOTE] Oh here we go. Demonstrating that you know nothing. The reason why I posted that is because your post has no relevance to what happened. PA (and Hamas of course, who could forget Hamas?) is a shitstain on the world that keeps the Palestinians the way they are.
and what exactly does your post demonstrate
You're right, it is an opinion. An opinion as to why people saying the Israeli's are worse is fucking wrong.
[QUOTE=DogGunn;48898704]Oh here we go. Demonstrating that you know nothing. The reason why I posted that is because your post has no relevance to what happened. PA (and Hamas of course, who could forget Hamas?) is a shitstain on the world that keeps the Palestinians the way they are.[/QUOTE] You literally did not address and of the points I mentioned, and are continuing to differ to a single event to declare an entire state malignant.
I am specifically referring to what happened in the bloody OP... it only happened because of how malignant the PA are.
[QUOTE=DogGunn;48898869]I am specifically referring to what happened in the bloody OP... it only happened because of how malignant the PA are.[/QUOTE] I too enjoy boiling geopolitical feuds down to a single event. This allows me to seem both intellectually superior, as well as DEFINITELY making me seem like a cognitively complex person! Because geopolitical issues are as simple as a single event, I'm basically an expert on the world! Isn't it great being smart? Nice to be around the company of other smart people [editline]13th October 2015[/editline] fucking wanker
This is coming from the person that posted this: [QUOTE=katbug;48897393]Nah they really aren't.[/QUOTE] Nothing substantive. Nothing useful for discussion. Just a claim. Don't take the high road if you're just as bad as what you're suggesting someone else is.
[QUOTE=katbug;48898647]What you just said literally has nothing to do with this. I don't give a fuck about the character of the man who was killed. I don't know why you do. It's not relevant and doesn't address what I said at all. [t]http://cdn0.vox-cdn.com/assets/4756436/IP_conflict_deaths_total.png[/t] Killing people is bad.[/QUOTE] How many of these guys had weapons pulled off their corpses before the cameras showed up?
[QUOTE=DogGunn;48898903]This is coming from the person that posted this: Nothing substantive. Nothing useful for discussion. Just a claim. Don't take the high road if you're just as bad as what you're suggesting someone else is.[/QUOTE] Continuing to completely fail to put forward an argument with substance, you proceed to produce an ad-hominem attack. I made a statement in that post, and then followed it up with an argument in another post. Do you not have the ability to look at things in a scope larger than a single instance or are you just choosing to fail at comprehension of a bigger picture?
Keep the shit post going. Sure, it was a personal addressed (like your post has been), but it's only because you continue down the same line of irrelevance. Keep it going, please. [editline]14th October 2015[/editline] Couldn't care less what the mods do about my posts either.
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