Spain hunts Eta killer freed from jail 'by mistake'
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[quote=BBC]
Spain has launched an urgent manhunt for a notorious Eta killer after a Spanish court which released him last week made a dramatic U-turn.
Antonio Troitino was convicted of 22 murders in the 1980s as a member of the Basque separatists' Madrid cell.
He was sentenced to more than 2,700 years in prison, but was released last Wednesday, amid a storm of controversy, after 24 years in jail.
Very unusually, the Audencia Nacional court has now revoked its decision.
Magistrates at the court, one of Spain's highest, issued an arrest warrant for the Eta militant.
But Troitino, 53, was not placed under surveillance after his release, and there was concern he might have fled the country. There are now unconfirmed reports he has been located in France.
According to Spanish law at the time of his original arrest, a prisoner can serve a maximum of 30 years in jail, regardless of the total sentence handed down by a court.
Last week the Audencia Nacional ruled that the six years Troitino spent on remand could be deducted from that maximum time, and authorised his early release.
Outrage
The decision outraged groups representing the victims of Eta, whose militants have killed more than 800 people in their four-decade long fight for an independent Basque state.
"This is not a game," insisted Angeles Pedraza, president of the Association of the Victims of Terrorism, who complained that convicted terrorists were being treated more favourably than paedophiles or rapists.
"We're talking about killers and there should only be one path for them: they should be judged, sentenced and then made to spend every year of their sentence in prison," Mr Pedraza said on Tuesday.
The next day the magistrates reassessed - and reversed - their decision after an appeal against the prisoner's early release by the public prosecutor's office.
Now, following a precedent set by Spain's Supreme Court, the magistrates have ruled that time spent on remand should be deducted from a prisoner's total, actual sentence - not the maximum permitted time behind bars.
Antonio Troitino should not have been released until 2017.
Spain's main opposition Popular Party has said it will demand someone is held accountable for "the error", if the prisoner is not found quickly and returned to custody.
Antonio Troitino is notorious for his involvement in the 1986 killing of 12 Guardia Civil officers. He was charged with detonating a remote control bomb as the police bus passed through central Madrid. A truck had been packed with up to 50kg of explosives.
Among other murders committed by the "Madrid Commandos," he was also sentenced for his role in planting a car bomb earlier that year in the capital, killing five policemen.
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Wow, sentenced to 2700 years in prison, but released after 24 years?
This wasn't an accident though, it says in the article they released him, but later regretted it and revoked it.
Either way, it kind of sounds like bullshit on the courts part, they DID release him, just because they got hit with a ton of public disapproval doesn't mean they should just revoke their decision and arrest him, I bet he feels pretty screwed over by the justice system right now.
prison doesnt work anyway
[QUOTE=Mattk50;29333907]prison doesnt work anyway[/QUOTE]
Yeah because we want those murderers and paedophiles walking around on the streets.
2,700 years? That's really quite an achievement.
[QUOTE=Eluveitie;29333935]Yeah because we want those murderers and paedophiles walking around on the streets.[/QUOTE]
the reason it doesn't "work" is mainly a social problem related to lack of equality and negative influences. also, prisons in somewhere like the USA are privately owned with their stocks traded bases on how many people are in prison. all the motivation is there to make sure you fuck the prisoners up even worse so they come back soon after they are released. I recomend doing some research on what actually happens inside prisons these days, its really sickening.
its also a poor management of finances. if a person steals a 30,000 car and then is caught and imprisoned a cost of 300,000... just give him the fucking car. all the money used to imprison people could be given to the people, and that would remove a vast majority of crime right there. of course, that suggestion wouldn't fix the real problems so take it just as an example that anything would be better than prisons today
I think there should be a free Basque State. Other than that, I don't remember allowing people to serve their sentences outside of prison, maybe I just misread it.
[QUOTE=Lust;29331543]I bet he feels pretty screwed over by the justice system right now.[/QUOTE]
I bet the 22 people he killed felt screwed over too.
2,700? why not just make it lifetime.
Wait, he's located in France? All they have to do is follow the trail of surrendering Frenchmen until they catch up with him.
I'm always bothered when people are given sentences that are around 100 years or more. It seems really pointless why don't they say it's lifetime like zzlawlzz said?
[QUOTE=zzlawlzz;29336827]2,700? why not just make it lifetime.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Aleister;29344173]I'm always bothered when people are given sentences that are around 100 years or more. It seems really pointless why don't they say it's lifetime like zzlawlzz said?[/QUOTE]
They have no lifetime sentence, and beyond that, they get auto-released after 30 years anyways.
[QUOTE=zzlawlzz;29336827]2,700? why not just make it lifetime.[/QUOTE]
in case he lives for 2,700 years
[QUOTE=Matthew1;29344749]in case he lives for 2,700 years[/QUOTE]
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Oh wow, why would they even think of releasing him
[QUOTE=Mattk50;29334043]the reason it doesn't "work" is mainly a social problem related to lack of equality and negative influences. also, prisons in somewhere like the USA are privately owned with their stocks traded bases on how many people are in prison. all the motivation is there to make sure you fuck the prisoners up even worse so they come back soon after they are released. I recomend doing some research on what actually happens inside prisons these days, its really sickening.
its also a poor management of finances. if a person steals a 30,000 car and then is caught and imprisoned a cost of 300,000... just give him the fucking car. all the money used to imprison people could be given to the people, and that would remove a vast majority of crime right there. of course, that suggestion wouldn't fix the real problems so take it just as an example that anything would be better than prisons today[/QUOTE]
I think the problems with prisons is that they aim to punish while they should be rehabilitating. Throwing a guy in jail over and over again won't help him unless you try and help him through obvious underlying problems.
[QUOTE=zzlawlzz;29336827]2,700? why not just make it lifetime.[/QUOTE]
That's multiple sentences. He could appeal one and only have 2,500 years instead.
I don't think they'll find him anytime soon
Freeing a prisoner and then changing your mind, I'm afraid, just doesn't constitute legal grounds to hunt him down again, here in Canada. Which is why there are no 'mistakes' made the first time. Spain really fucked up here, if you asked me.
2700 years?
Just how long did they expect this fucker to live? :v:
[QUOTE=Trumple;29356327]2700 years?
Just how long did they expect this fucker to live? :v:[/QUOTE]
Really?
Waitwaitwaitwait. So is everyone in this thread saying that the guy who killed 22 people should be allowed to stay free? I get that the courts fucked up but he killed 22 people. You don't just let people like that walk.
[QUOTE=Dolton;29356398]Waitwaitwaitwait. So is everyone in this thread saying that the guy who killed 22 people should be allowed to stay free? I get that the courts fucked up but he killed 22 people. You don't just let people like that walk.[/QUOTE]
I'd much rather have him walk than have a system where a court could be like "woops nvm you're not free anymore cause we said so lol".
[QUOTE=ChilColdCoolaid;29356448]I'd much rather have him walk than have a system where a court could be like "woops nvm you're not free anymore cause we said so lol".[/QUOTE]
he can still be arrested for entering france illegally
oopsie
[Quote]53, was not placed under surveillance after his release[/quote]
Really 2,700 year sentence and they don't place him under surveillance once they let him out. :doh:
[QUOTE=Dolton;29356398]Waitwaitwaitwait. So is everyone in this thread saying that the guy who killed 22 people should be allowed to stay free? I get that the courts fucked up but he killed 22 people. You don't just let people like that walk.[/QUOTE]
Maybe he learned something after 24 fucking years
I thought of this as like the scene in Idiocracy where Joe breaks out of jail.
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