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Did he just imply we can't see things greater than 60 fps? He's probably right about flys having a quicker perception of time, but the brain doesn't see things in hertz
Perception or not, I want to build/buy some sort of ceiling mount laser turret that shoots down the little bastards.
[QUOTE=IliekBoxes;52432430]Did he just imply we can't see things greater than 60 fps? He's probably right about flys having a quicker perception of time, but the brain doesn't see things in hertz[/QUOTE]
Yeah that bit didnt make much sense. I'm assuming he's talking about our time perception abilities exclusively, cause we can definitely tell high framerates from low ones
Speed of Light Perception ≠ Framerate
[QUOTE=IliekBoxes;52432430]Did he just imply we can't see things greater than 60 fps? He's probably right about flys having a quicker perception of time, but the brain doesn't see things in hertz[/QUOTE]
Well, actually you could say that we [I]do [/I]see things in hertz. Hertz are just cycles per second, and there is a limit to how frequently the nerves in our eyes send electrical impulses to our brain.
That's why you get motion blur when you see something moving fast, because the time between the nerves in your eyes sending impulses to your brain is long enough that objects can move between impulses, causing them to blur.
[QUOTE=LoneWolf_Recon;52432455]Perception or not, I want to build/buy some sort of ceiling mount laser turret that shoots down the little bastards.[/QUOTE]
If they're being particularly annoying just bust out a vacuum cleaner. They can be as agile as they want but their tiny wings can't possible generate enough force to escape the suction of a vacuum cleaner relatively close. Works on wasps too if they're being shits.
I think the 60Hz thing is just an analogy to compare between our rate of perception and the fly's, and wasn't meant to be taken as an absolute fact.
Just slowly (very slowly) approach them with your hand and flick them when you get near enough.
What? It's not hard at all to swat a fly. You just have to go from the sides and aim for the air above them. Even catching one isn't hard.
[QUOTE=Talvy;52432600]Flies are harmless.[/QUOTE]
If they get a disease, they can be.
[QUOTE=Elspin;52432488]If they're being particularly annoying just bust out a vacuum cleaner[/QUOTE]
or a gun
i wouldn't be upset if flies went extinct
[QUOTE=Elspin;52432488]If they're being particularly annoying just bust out a vacuum cleaner. They can be as agile as they want but their tiny wings can't possible generate enough force to escape the suction of a vacuum cleaner relatively close. Works on wasps too if they're being shits.[/QUOTE]
This is how I handle almost all insect situations, especially spiders that are brave enough to show themselves.
I don't see the need to harm our flying little friends. Just leave them be, or if they're really bothering you put a glass over them and slide some paper underneath so you can take them outside.
[QUOTE=Bread_Baron;52432762]I don't see the need to harm our flying little friends. Just leave them be, or if they're really bothering you put a glass over them and slide some paper underneath so you can take them outside.[/QUOTE]
I wouldn't consider anything that spends time walking around on dog shit and dead animals before trying to walk all over my food a "friend".
I have a designated pot and a piece of card by my desk for getting rid of bees and other insects, but flies can fuck off.
[QUOTE=Bread_Baron;52432762]I don't see the need to harm our flying little friends. Just leave them be, or if they're really bothering you put a glass over them and slide some paper underneath so you can take them outside.[/QUOTE]
I do this for all insects except mosquitoes.
Fuck those satanic twats.
[QUOTE=Bread_Baron;52432762]I don't see the need to harm our flying little friends. Just leave them be, or if they're really bothering you put a glass over them and slide some paper underneath so you can take them outside.[/QUOTE]
This becomes infeasible quite quickly, there are times when i have 30+ flies in my kitchen during summer.
[QUOTE=Vodkavia;52432827]I think the real reason is that when swatting a fly the air displaced with either a hand or a swatter can often push them away.[/QUOTE]
Steve Carrell has it figured out:
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[QUOTE=Elspin;52432488]If they're being particularly annoying just bust out a vacuum cleaner. They can be as agile as they want but their tiny wings can't possible generate enough force to escape the suction of a vacuum cleaner relatively close. Works on wasps too if they're being shits.[/QUOTE]
When I read this comment, a lightning bolt struck in my head.
I proceeded to dig out my vacuum, plug it in and yell at the top of my lungs: "YOUR DAY OF RECKONING HAS COME YOU FLYING BASTARDS!"
My apt is now dead silent, it was all wonderfully cathartic. Thank you.
[QUOTE=cartman300;52432817]This becomes infeasible quite quickly, there are times when i have 30+ flies in my kitchen during summer.[/QUOTE]
Do you store shit in your kitchen?
[QUOTE=cartman300;52432817]This becomes infeasible quite quickly, there are times when i have 30+ flies in my kitchen during summer.[/QUOTE]
what the fuck clean the place up dude
[QUOTE=The Vman;52432480]Well, actually you could say that we [I]do [/I]see things in hertz. Hertz are just cycles per second, and there is a limit to how frequently the nerves in our eyes send electrical impulses to our brain.
That's why you get motion blur when you see something moving fast, because the time between the nerves in your eyes sending impulses to your brain is long enough that objects can move between impulses, causing them to blur.[/QUOTE]
Nope, I'm pretty sure it's down to how quickly the cells in your retina can deal with changes in frequencies of light. It's not gonna be measured in Hertz - it's far more organic than that
Why the fuck are these documentaries so wacky
[QUOTE=Talvy;52432924]Do you store shit in your kitchen?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=salty peanut v2;52432944]what the fuck clean the place up dude[/QUOTE]
It has nothing to do with how clean or dirty the kitchen is. It's just a side effect of living in a village where people keep cows and other animals.
That and having multiple literal tons of cow shit near your house.
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Trust me, you don't want to live in a village.
Because 7 8 9?
30+ in his kitchen. Jesus.
[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;52432730]or a gun[/QUOTE]
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And for the pesky humans in your house
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[QUOTE=The Vman;52432480]Well, actually you could say that we [I]do [/I]see things in hertz. Hertz are just cycles per second, and there is a limit to how frequently the nerves in our eyes send electrical impulses to our brain.
That's why you get motion blur when you see something moving fast, because the time between the nerves in your eyes sending impulses to your brain is long enough that objects can move between impulses, causing them to blur.[/QUOTE]
1) Yes a neuron has a maximum fire rate, but staggering the fire rate amongst many in a fibre can alleviate this. So 2 firing in alternating times could theoretically double the "cycle" rate, kinda like double buffering. The rate of neural firing is not a factor that matters in terms of trying to determine our "cycles per second"
2) Each photoreceptor doesn't map 1:1 to a singular fibre heading to your brain, so even if 1 were to tire out, many others could still fire while the other ones are refracting. Different ones and different color sensitivity one's work together to report what a given chunk of retinal space should report. So like 1), except many across the entire eye. Nothing is synchronizing when each individual receptor should fire.
3) Motion blur doesn't happen like that.
Every perceivable sense that humans have has some degree of short term memory. The short term vision buffer accumulates data to be processed. Its kinda like keeping a shutter open on a camera. Sure, things need to stay visible in this buffer for a certain amount of time to be actually noticed, but unconsciously and automatically things can be perceived within a very very short time window. Like everything in neurology, nothing is simple.
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