Russia issues warning after fatal clashes in Ukraine city of Donetsk - Polidicks

[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bi2aAXuIAAAWZeb.jpg:large[/IMG] [QUOTE]Tensions between Russia and Ukraine rose higher on Friday as casualties mounted from clashes between pro- and anti-Russian protesters in Donetsk and the Russian foreign ministry suggested it could intervene to protect lives. The escalation came as the US secretary of state, John Kerry, met the Russian foreign minister, Sergei Lavrov, in London. Crimean residents will choose on Sunday whether to join Russia or to reinstate the constitution of 1992, under which Crimea enjoyed great autonomy from Kiev. Donetsk, a largely Russian-speaking city in eastern Ukraine where many residents have close ties to Russia, declared a day of mourning on Friday after one person was killed and more than two dozen injured in a mass fight. The city has been the site of repeated standoffs between pro- and anti-Russian demonstrators. On Friday, protesters from a pro-Russian demonstration fought with those from a rally "for a united Ukraine", resulting in the death of a 22-year-old man and injuries to a reported 26 people. Other reports said 28 people had been injured and that the young man had been stabbed to death. Ukrainian media said pro-Russian protesters had attacked first, but the foreign ministry and Russian media reported that armed men had attacked peaceful pro-Russian demonstrators. In a statement released in response to the clashes, the foreign ministry said Kiev was not in control of the situation in the country and had failed to guarantee demonstrators' safety. "Radical far-right gangs armed with traumatic firearms and clubs, who began to arrive in the city yesterday from other regions of the country, attacked peaceful protesters who came out on the streets to express their attitude towards the destructive position of the people who call themselves the Ukrainian government," the foreign ministry said in a statement. The statement also hinted that Russian forces could intervene in eastern Ukraine to protect Russians there, the same justification used for sending troops to occupy key facilities in Crimea. "Russia recognises its responsibility for the lives of countrymen and fellow citizens in Ukraine and reserves the right to take people under its protection," it said. The foreign ministry website was not working on Friday afternoon, but much of the statement was carried by Russian news agencies. The head of Ukraine's security service wrote on his Facebook page on Friday that four people had been detained in connection with the violence in Donetsk and that "these detainments are only the beginning". Russian troops and armoured vehicles had massed on the border with eastern Ukraine on Thursday, alarming Kiev, where the acting president, Oleksandr Turchynov, said in a statement that the Russian forces were "ready to intervene in Ukraine at any time". The Russian defence ministry admitted in several statements that at least 10,000 troops had gathered in provinces along the border, but said they were there only to participate in intensive exercises. Moscow also ordered six Sukhoi-27 fighter jets and three transport planes into Belarus, located on Ukraine's northern border, to head off what the Belarusian president, Alexander Lukashenko, said was a potential Nato threat.[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/14/russia-warning-fatal-clashes-ukraine-donetsk-protect-compatriots[/url]

appeasement is totally working lets just keep trading and doing nothing

It's not like I wished to live my life through more or less peaceful age or anything, anyway.

[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;44253996]It's not like I wished to live my life through more or less peaceful age or anything, anyway.[/QUOTE] Believing that we're entering a peaceful age is stupid. Wishing for it is not.

[QUOTE=Hole;44254125]Believing that we're entering a peaceful age is stupid. Wishing for it is not.[/QUOTE] Well, things DID look pretty chill for quite a while outside of middle east and Africa, but it's true that there won't be real global peace as long as nationalism is as strong and toothy as it's now.

[QUOTE=Fourm Shark;44254374]This is just an excuse for Russia to send troops into Ukraine to "protect" pro-Russia Ukrainians.[/QUOTE] Oh I wouldn't have ever guessed, that's so subtle!

[quote]"Radical far-right gangs armed with traumatic firearms and clubs, who began to arrive in the city yesterday from other regions of the country, attacked peaceful protesters who came out on the streets to express their attitude towards the destructive position of the people who call themselves the Ukrainian government,"[/quote]you can just smell the bias and propaganda

The way I see it there are three solutions now. 1. Ukraine keeps everything, unlikely to happen due to Putin and his dreams of a Russia that's a Soviet superstate once again. 2. Russia takes Ukraine, or at least some part of it, once again unlikely due to other countries intervening. 3. Ukraine splits in half. West portion becomes part of the EU, East gets a deal with Russia. Whether the East half becomes part of Russia or it remains a separate state, I don't know.

[QUOTE=TornadoAP;44254609]3. Ukraine splits in half. West portion becomes part of the EU, East gets a deal with Russia. Whether the East half becomes part of Russia or it remains a separate state, I don't know.[/QUOTE] Unlike Crimea, the east part was never really part of Russia in the past. Plus it's home to a large part of Ukraine's industry. If Russia tries to annex that, there's no way the Ukrainian government will just roll over.

[QUOTE=Clavus;44254796]Unlike Crimea, the east part was never really part of Russia in the past. Plus it's home to a large part of Ukraine's industry. If Russia tries to annex that, there's no way the Ukrainian government will just roll over.[/QUOTE] And yet people in there do that: [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bfc7REGYYDc#t=39[/url]

[QUOTE=karimatrix;44254873]And yet people in there do that: [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bfc7REGYYDc#t=39[/url][/QUOTE] How the fuck do they just have a gigantic flag like that laying around.

[QUOTE=mobrockers;44254896]How the fuck do they just have a gigantic flag like that laying around.[/QUOTE] i have a dutch flag like that, don't you?

[QUOTE=Hole;44254125]Believing that we're entering a peaceful age is stupid. Wishing for it is not.[/QUOTE] Generally we are getting more peaceful, but thinking that this trend will continue without interruption is the wishful thinking.

[QUOTE=scorpinat;44255239]i have a dutch flag like that, don't you?[/QUOTE] Wilders took mine because he saw me hanging out with a Moroccan.

All the excuse Russia needs to annex Ukraine and cleanse the ethnic Ukrainians.

Russia, fuck off you piece of shit.

[QUOTE=mobrockers;44254896]How the fuck do they just have a gigantic flag like that laying around.[/QUOTE] They don't, that's the point. They could be a bit more subtle about it..

I thought Russia was just going to stop at Crimea. But now it seems like Russia is itching for more.

[QUOTE=-n3o-;44262940]I thought Russia was just going to stop at Crimea. But now it seems like Russia is itching for more.[/QUOTE] No, everyone's just hoping they'll stop. Historically, they don't stop until they're satisfied or they hit a wall with the West.