Me and some friends want to try weed for the first time, any advice?
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So, while rather intoxicated last night, a few of my friends and I thought we should at least try weed once. The problem though, is no one really knows how to go about it. Getting it really isn't hard so that's not the problem (my little brother seems to be a regular here so I'm sure he can point me).
Our problem is what to do with it. None of us are smokers, so rolling some joints probably isn't an option as we'll just spend the night coughing and not getting anywhere. Bong are out of the question as it would cost us money. So I was thinking making Hashish butter and making some brownies or cake or something with it. Does that seem like a good first start? How much Hashish would I need per person?
Looking it up, it seems you really need to cook it to get it to work properly (I'd assume some sort of chemical reaction producing more potent drugs), how long would I do that for?
I figure I've missed things, so if you think I have, just add it
either borrow a piece or make your own. Aint nothing wrong with a homemade waterfall or regular bong, or if youre super lazy an apple pipe. Also, for something like this please post it in the drug discussion thread, its exactly there for this.
Apple pipes are great, it's what I've been using for the past year or so
Once I'm 18, I'll get a real piece, but you can't go wrong with apples
We'd prefer not to smoke it...
[QUOTE=download;40696811]We'd prefer not to smoke it...[/QUOTE]
you probably live at home, right?
i'd probably avoid cooking it
making an apple pipe isn't hard at all
if anything you can make a firecracker, i've never had one but i've heard they're nice
[QUOTE=download;40696811]We'd prefer not to smoke it...[/QUOTE]
then firecrackers are the way to go. why dont you guys want to smoke it anyway? its a lot faster than edibles, if you smoke outside smell is not an issue, hell even inside ur pretty good with an open window.
[QUOTE=download;40696811]We'd prefer not to smoke it...[/QUOTE]
why not?
Trust me, i'm not a smoker and on my first time i only coughed once. Put an ice cube in the hollowed out apple to make to smoke cooler. It'll feel like you aren't even smoking at all!
[QUOTE=download;40696811]We'd prefer not to smoke it...[/QUOTE]
I think you should if it's just the health effects you're worried about. I used to be against smoking at all, but once you get accustomed to weed you realize that smoking it isn't going to fuck you up like your mom who hacks up cigarette ash every day. I think it's best for beginners because vaporizing will take you by surprise (oh god and don't use something manual like a vapor genie, they're a hassle to get high with) and it's even harder to gauge yourself with edibles. Smoking is pretty immediate.
Smoking the ganj is NOTHING like cigarettes, an average sized bowl is less plant material (and no paper) than your average cig and it doesn't have tons of chems in it
I'd advise an apple pipe or something. Smoking a little weed has pretty minimal negative effects especially if you're only going to try it once and it's so much easier than cooking. I think for a first time smoking is much more straightforward and you'll probably have a better experience as you can gauge how high you're getting easier. I might be a little biased though as i don't actually like edibles that much. I don't really like the whole sitting around waiting to feel something then the nervousness of "oh no did i eat too much?" much nicer to just have a hit or two and see how you feel. I'd advise getting an experienced smoker to show you how to inhale if you do though. When i was younger and first tried smoking weed with some friends we had to smoke stupid amounts to feel anything because we didn't inhale properly. (if you don't know anyone just try to take in some air ontop of the smoke after inhaling. You'll probably cough first couple of times but that's normal)
[QUOTE=Cpn Crunch21;40697062]then firecrackers are the way to go. why dont you guys want to smoke it anyway? its a lot faster than edibles, if you smoke outside smell is not an issue, hell even inside ur pretty good with an open window.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Stormcharger;40697304]why not?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Chicken_Chaser;40697884]I think you should if it's just the health effects you're worried about. I used to be against smoking at all, but once you get accustomed to weed you realize that smoking it isn't going to fuck you up like your mom who hacks up cigarette ash every day. I think it's best for beginners because vaporizing will take you by surprise (oh god and don't use something manual like a vapor genie, they're a hassle to get high with) and it's even harder to gauge yourself with edibles. Smoking is pretty immediate.[/QUOTE]
Because my family won't appreciate it if the house smells like weed, and despite the stereotype, it's winter here in Australia, which means it's fucking cold and probably raining outside especially down south where I live
What are firecrackers? Besides the things that go bang
[editline]19th May 2013[/editline]
I read every time you guys said "apple pipe" initially as "Apple Pie"
I really won't mind cooking it
weed for the first time... find a nice spot out in nature where, even if it's raining you'll have shelter and wont have to worry about anyone or anything. It's a beautiful experience, and you will fucking love it. Go for an apple pipe, if you can't engineer yourself something else. I've always used a home made bong personally, can't recommend making one like every other bogan does though, if you can engineer yourself something make it as safe physically as possible, please no hosepipe
if you're going to cook it for your first time, use little little amounts, edibles do wreck you pretty good can't even imagine having one of those as a first timer
[QUOTE=download;40698322]Because my family won't appreciate it if the house smells like weed, and despite the stereotype, it's winter here in Australia, which means it's fucking cold and probably raining outside especially down south where I live
What are firecrackers? Besides the things that go bang
[editline]19th May 2013[/editline]
I read every time you guys said "apple pipe" initially as "Apple Pie"
I really won't mind cooking it[/QUOTE]
If you're worried about your parents finding out I'd personally leave it until your house is free, or a friends house is free at some point. Like completely free for a whole day or more. A few hours with a window or two open and some incense burning will make the house smell fresh and back to normal even if you've blazed through a whole ounce.
In my own experience I've not really enjoyed being high the... three times (?) I've done so at home whilst people have been here (even though all but one of those times it was the middle of the night and nobody else was awake and I smoked outside). I've felt slightly on edge each time, and when I'm high I like to listen to music quite loudly over a stereo system (headphones just can't get as good response for those deep bass lines) but I obviously can't do that in the middle of the night.
Every time I've done it while I've been with friends in an empty house we've had music playing loudly and we've been able to just chill out and lay down on a couch. Those times have been absolutely fantastic.
It has nothing to do with my parent's finding out, it's about the house not smelling like weed.
Does anyone actually want to give me some advice besides "smoke it instead" or should I try somewhere else?
[QUOTE=download;40698457]It has nothing to do with my parent's finding out, it's about the house not smelling like weed.
Does anyone actually want to give me some advice besides "smoke it instead" or should I try somewhere else?[/QUOTE]
Well like I said, open some windows and burn some incense when you're done. House will smell good as new again.
well those are your two options mate, either you cook it, which I personally don't recommend for first time, or smoke it.
what more do you want and or expect? if you really want to cook as opposed to smoke, Just stay up late and bake a couple firecrackers with say half a gram to a gram, spread it out between 5 or 6, eat one each to begin with, see how it goes. The problem is, unlike smoking, you have to wait a good hour and a half before firecrackers really start hitting you, so we all recommend smoking it because you can actually gauge how high you're getting pretty quickly. However, I can and will garuntee you that there wont be any noticable smell if you do it the way I just suggested for cooking, firecrackers only really stink bad once you open them up from the foil, but other than that you can pretty much hide them anywhere without the smell escaping, and there's minimal smell while cooking. Obviously if you stick the fucking foiled package up to your nose you'll be able to smell it but otherwise yeah
don't be a self entitled dick, we've offered suggestions, but if you're that stuck up about taking them you might as well just wait til you're grown up enough to work it out for yourself, because you will get the same advice everywhere pretty much, everyone will have their own range of ideas but it pretty much boils down to
just smoke it, wherever you please, that's up to you
or cook it and eat it, but people will not recommend this for first time for very good reasons
[editline]19th May 2013[/editline]
sorry if I come off as hostile/dickish, i'm just in a crappy mood atm
Kay I'm confused. Are you afraid that smoking will make your house reek or edibles? If it's smoking then smell won't be an issue. I can't fathom why you won't just smoke it. You won't eat it. You won't smoke it. What the hell are you trying to get us to tell you? (derp not trying to come off as a dick either)
yeah i'm really not sure what he's expecting, they're pretty much the two options he has outside of vaporizing and unless he wants to invest a fair deal of money for one (120 bucks or so for the MFLB is close to the cheapest, you can get cheaper knock offs though) but even that will produce a noticable smell to some degree, especially if you don't know what you're doing with it and it does take practice to get it down right
actually he could go the way of buying a cheap glass manual vape, like the vape lifter or the slightly more expensive vapogenie or whatever... , stick your bud in and vape with a flame... but you risk combustion/smell even more so with something like that
what do you want, an injection tincture?
[QUOTE=Inzalonus;40698612]yeah i'm really not sure what he's expecting, they're pretty much the two options he has outside of vaporizing and unless he wants to invest a fair deal of money for one (120 bucks or so for the MFLB is close to the cheapest, you can get cheaper knock offs though) but even that will produce a noticable smell to some degree, especially if you don't know what you're doing with it and it does take practice to get it down right
what do you want, an injection tincture?[/QUOTE]
This is why first timers shouldn't be allowed to be picky. They'll thank themselves later. Just smoke it OP.
[QUOTE=download;40698457]It has nothing to do with my parent's finding out, it's about the house not smelling like weed.
Does anyone actually want to give me some advice besides "smoke it instead" or should I try somewhere else?[/QUOTE]
If you were baking brownies or any kind of food with ganja, your house will just stink badly of pot.
The house you cooked it in at least.
I'd recommend a joint for your first time. It's much easier on the throat than a bong/pipe and edibles would be too intense.
Just read up on how to make them, it isn't that hard.
Yep, clearly not welcome here.
I'm 19 years old. I made it pretty clear that neither I, nor my friends want to smoke it, we're not little kids.
All I got from you was that cooking it takes time, so what? Learn to be patient
[QUOTE=download;40698831]I'm 19 years old. I made it pretty clear that neither I, nor my friends want to smoke it, [B]we're not little kids[/B].[/QUOTE]
Yeah you're not welcome here.
[QUOTE=download;40698831]Yep, clearly not welcome here.
I'm 19 years old. I made it pretty clear that neither I, nor my friends want to smoke it, we're not little kids.
All I got from you was that cooking it takes time, so what? Learn to be patient[/QUOTE]
Well if your reasoning for not smoking it is PURELY, "we don't want to stink out the house," then I've offered you a solution to that, so you have no reason to NOT smoke it now so you ARE being a little bit of a child by constantly putting up the same argument when you've been given a solution.
If there are other reasons then stop just sticking to that one argument. Are you worried it's unhealthy? If so, you're probably right - I imagine it is unhealthier to smoke rather than eat it. But if you're only wanting to try it the once and not planning on making a habit out of it then smoking it once is going to do no more damage to you than spending a day in the the middle of an area with a high amount of traffic.
Oh, so you won't smoke it because "we're not little kids"
That's your reason? Well thanks for clarifying I guess. You're welcome to stay and discuss things. We don't hate you. Judging from your opening post you drink so I don't understand where you're pulling "we're not little kids" from. Not sure why you are judgmental like that. You need to communicate with us more effectively. You're making us assume everything.
Just smoke it and be quiet
[QUOTE=download;40698831]Yep, clearly not welcome here.
I'm 19 years old. I made it pretty clear that neither I, nor my friends want to smoke it, we're not little kids.
All I got from you was that cooking it takes time, so what? Learn to be patient[/QUOTE]
Well you obviously didn't read correctly
cooked weed hits you like a ton of bricks, for first timers this can and will be overwhelming if you go too far. Dosing it is also ridiculously harder because you simply do not know what kind of tolerance your body will put up, some people take a ridiculous amount of weed to get stoned their first time, some people have one hit of a joint and feel completely ripped
cooking it, you're pretty much potentiating it a huge deal, it takes a lot longer to kick in. Easy to fall for the "Yeah this isn't hitting me" trap, and then land yourself with a bad experience filled with paranoia and thinking you're dying.
Yes, it's weed, but that shit can and will happen especially if you havn't smoked before, because your body and mind simply don't know what the fuck is going on in a sense. We all know how to handle it by comparison, so we make it sound as if it's something easy, but weed as a drug for a first timer can be fucking ridiculous.
This is why people don't recommend weed edibles. But if you're going to make them, just put really small amounts into each one, have one to begin with, then redose if you want to get "higher" about 2 hours in. That's the only "advice" I have to give you in terms of edibles. I did give this advice before, maybe not this specifically, but I still threw it out there.
my over all advice would be to just smoke it outside somewhere for your first time, you would have a far better time and experience the full "magic" of weed. Inside is great and all, but nothing compares to that. That being said, if you're that unwilling to smoke, go ahead with the edibles, just be smart about it and don't cook cannabutter, go the firecracker route. it fucking reeks cooking cannabutter but firecrackers, inside an oven etc tend to be pretty smell-less as far as room goes.. can't say the same about the inside of the oven for a few hours
[QUOTE=download;40698831]Yep, clearly not welcome here.
I'm 19 years old. I made it pretty clear that neither I, nor my friends want to smoke it, we're not little kids.
All I got from you was that cooking it takes time, so what? Learn to be patient[/QUOTE]
Yup, smoking Cannabis makes you a little kid.
[QUOTE=Inzalonus;40698991] go the firecracker route. it fucking reeks cooking cannabutter but firecrackers, inside an oven etc tend to be pretty smell-less as far as room goes.. can't say the same about the inside of the oven for a few hours[/QUOTE]
The entire post covers everything I was about to say. Firecrackers smell a little bit after you take them out of the oven and moreso when you take them out of the tinfoil. Doesn't smell like weed though, like incense or something..
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