• Stanford Swimmer Who Raped Unconscious Woman Gets Six Months in Jail
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[URL="http://nymag.com/thecut/2016/06/stanford-swimmer-brock-allen-turner-sentenced.html"]SOURCE 1[/URL] [URL="http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jun/02/stanford-swimmer-sexual-assault-brock-allen-turner-palo-alto?utm_content=buffer7d092&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer"]SOURCE 2[/URL] [QUOTE]Brock Allen Turner, the former Stanford swimmer who was discovered [URL="http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2015/01/stanford-swimmer-to-be-charged-for-public-rape.html"]raping an unconscious woman[/URL] behind a dumpster on campus in January of last year, will be sentenced to six months in county jail and probation. Prosecutors had recommended that Turner receive a sentence of six years, but judge Aaron Persky determined that Turner's age — 20 — and lack of criminal history warranted him a much shorter sentence.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]“A prison sentence would have a severe impact on him," [URL="http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jun/02/stanford-swimmer-sexual-assault-brock-allen-turner-palo-alto?utm_content=buffer7d092&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer"]Persky said at Turner's sentencing on Thursday[/URL]. "I think he will not be a danger to others." Meanwhile, the 23-year-old victim in the rape case, who had had a blood-alcohol level three times the legal limit at the time of the rape and who had no memory of the attack, gave important testimony at the trial.[/QUOTE] Fuckin hell.
“A prison sentence would have a severe impact on him," There's a balance between trying to deter someone from committing a crime again and keeping them from having the opportunity. But 6 months feels like such a slap on the wrist for such an inhumane crime
yeah, you know what severely impacted that woman? being raped fucking disgraceful
i can kinda see where the judge is going with his reasoning [quote]“A prison sentence would have a severe impact on him,"[/quote] [quote] "I think he will not be a danger to others."[/quote] But honestly, 6 months seems like such a small sentence. It's gonna be extra shitty if he gets out earlier on "good behavior"
Welcome to the "justice" system, where rapists practically get off scot free. I seriously hope the guards leave the shower room, because he's not going to be out swimming all the sperm he's gonna get.
[QUOTE=crazzyman228;50452980]Welcome to the "justice" system, where rapists practically get off scot free. I seriously hope the guards leave the shower room, because he's not going to be out swimming all the sperm he's gonna get.[/QUOTE] Classy, my man.
sentences shouldn't be shorter than the expected emotional trauma the victim will have to endure. rape isn't something a person will be able to brush off for years, let alone 6 months.
I wonder how this guy would have written out the pros and cons of banging an unconscious woman, because I would have personally written "she's fucking unconscious" in 72pt font in the cons section. I legitimately can't understand why anyone would find it in any way hot to bang an unconscious chick. I mean, I think you'd probably have to view the experience as completely self serving and have no interest in people to just want to stick it into a body, and that's kind of a scary thought all on it's own.
[QUOTE=wauterboi;50453200]I wonder how this guy would have written out the pros and cons of banging an unconscious woman, because I would have personally written "she's fucking unconscious" in 72pt font in the cons section. I legitimately can't understand why anyone would find it in any way hot to bang an unconscious chick. I mean, I think you'd probably have to view the experience as completely self serving and have no interest in people to just want to stick it into a body, and that's kind of a scary thought all on it's own.[/QUOTE] ummm there is no pro there is only con
Rapist don't deserve anything below 3 years, I don't give a shit what their sob sappy ass story is. If you are proven to be guilty without a doubt you deserve everything coming to you.
I'd say the sentence is [I]about[/I] alright. The victim was/is older, doesn't even remember it, and probably no significant injuries either. The perpetrator had no history, was also drunk, and.. yeah. Also, not even 6 months, he's likely gonna sit 3 months behind bars.
[QUOTE=Recurracy;50453423]ummm there is no pro there is only con[/QUOTE] 1. You're overthinking the joke 2. The swimmer would have put down pros, which is what the joke was about. I wanted to see what he would have put down on the pros side, because I can't see why anyone would want to bang an unconscious chick save for being very, very desperate for sex. 3. Me saying "she's fucking unconscious" is also an indicator that I don't approve of it [editline]4th June 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Bat-shit;50453650]I'd say the sentence is [I]about[/I] alright. The victim was/is older, doesn't even remember it, and probably no significant injuries either. The perpetrator had no history, was also drunk, and.. yeah. Also, not even 6 months, he's likely gonna sit 3 months behind bars.[/QUOTE] As long as he gets labeled as a sex offender and banned from the school I'm okay with the punishment. That label is very, very powerful.
[QUOTE=Punchy;50453017]sentences shouldn't be shorter than the expected emotional trauma the victim will have to endure. rape isn't something a person will be able to brush off for years, let alone 6 months.[/QUOTE] This sentence is longer than the trauma the victim experienced [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Why reply" - Novangel))[/highlight]
[QUOTE=Bat-shit;50453650]The victim was/is older, [B]doesn't even remember it[/B], and probably [B]no significant injuries[/B] either. The perpetrator had no history, was also drunk, and.. yeah. Also, not even 6 months, he's likely gonna sit 3 months behind bars.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]“[B]You took away my worth, my privacy, my energy, my time, my safety, my intimacy, my confidence, my own voice, until today.[/B]” She added, “I am a human being who has been[B] irreversibly hurt[/B].” Alaleh Kianerci, the prosecutor, criticized Turner for[B] failing to admit that he sexually assaulted the woman that night.[/B][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JackDestiny;50453851][/QUOTE] He never admitted anything at all? I'd put him behind bars for a long time for simply lying.
[QUOTE=Jon MadN;50453844]This sentence is longer than the trauma the victim experienced[/QUOTE] Well you seem to have a fine grasp on the term "emotional trauma".
Why the fuck are we going softly on rapists? This is pathetic.
[QUOTE=Megadave;50453865]Well you seem to have a fine grasp on the term "emotional trauma".[/QUOTE] I assumed he was trolling simply because using duration a crime lasts as a measure of punishment would lead to such a lack of jail time for any crime. [I]How much trauma does instantly killing a person cause? Nothing? Well, you're off the hook, lad.[/I]
[QUOTE=Jon MadN;50453844]This sentence is longer than the trauma the victim experienced[/QUOTE] No. [editline]4th June 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Megadave;50453865]Well you seem to have a fine grasp on the term "emotional trauma".[/QUOTE] He's probably got extreme autism. Or trolling as mentioned above, though pretending to be severely autistic to troll folk isn't a great method I'd say. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Flaming" - Novangel))[/highlight]
[QUOTE=wauterboi;50453856]He never admitted anything at all? I'd put him behind bars for a long time for simply lying.[/QUOTE] He admitted to getting drunk and blamed everything that happened on alcohol, key point being that he blamed her for getting drunk as well. He still doesn't get that he did something wrong, he genuinely believes that he was an innocent victim and that the girl is trying to pin her mistake on him. Typical victim blaming behaviour.
6 months isn't exactly a tiny chunk of time
[QUOTE=JackDestiny;50453851]quotes and bolded text[/QUOTE] Yes, and I think she still doesn't remember any of it. And she didn't sustain significant physical injuries as far as we are led to believe, which is good of course. And he still got a felony charge you know, which is gonna ruin him to a good extent. So 3-6 months in jail is alright I'd say.
[QUOTE=Map in a box;50454158]6 months isn't exactly a tiny chunk of time[/QUOTE] It's a complete joke. I'm all for lower sentences, especially in the US where the prison system is far more punitive than rehabilitative, but this man has shown absolutely no remorse throughout the whole trial, attempted to shift the blame for his own poor choices onto the woman, and still fails to understand that he has done something wrong. Rape and sexual assault is a very serious problem that destroys lives, and to give the perpetrator such a light sentence shows callous disregard for the severity of the crime.
[QUOTE=Map in a box;50454158]6 months isn't exactly a tiny chunk of time[/QUOTE] For a crime like rape, yeah it is. It's incredibly tiny.
[QUOTE=Bat-shit;50454160]Yes, and I think she still doesn't remember any of it. And she didn't sustain significant physical injuries as far as we are led to believe, which is good of course. And he still got a felony charge you know, which is gonna ruin him to a good extent. So 3-6 months in jail is alright I'd say.[/QUOTE] did you actually read the massive response she wrote/thing she read out? just because you don't remember something doesn't mean it isn't traumatic and has an overall profound impact, jesus wept
[QUOTE=Bat-shit;50454160]Yes, and I think she still doesn't remember any of it. And she didn't sustain significant physical injuries as far as we are led to believe, which is good of course. And he still got a felony charge you know, which is gonna ruin him to a good extent. So 3-6 months in jail is alright I'd say.[/QUOTE] I don't know about you, but if someone took my dress off, stuck their fingers up my vagina, dry humped me, and I didn't remember [i]any of that happening[/i], I'd be far more traumatised than if I did. [editline]4th June 2016[/editline] Like... imagine if you woke up in a hospital one morning with abrasions on your body, blood on your clothes, and a vagina red from having fingers stuffed into it. And you had no idea how you got there. How terrifying is that?
The PSI, generally written by Probation & Parole, was where the judge pulled the sentence from. Unlike everyone in this thread and the media, the P&P officer sat down and completely mapped out the life of the accused. They then compared their criminal and personal history to the proposed punishment of the prosecution and made a recommendation based on what would be best for the community. Whatever bullshit desire for vengeance people may have is, and should be, irrelevant. The sentencing recommendation in a PSI is all about what accomplishes the objective of community safety best. Long prison sentences often INCREASE the possibility that an offender will reoffend.
You guys need to remember that his life is basically over now. Social life? Gone. Old friends will hate him, no one will want to be connected to him. Work? Good luck with 5 felonies on your belt. His chances of going to the Olympics again? Dashed. He's [I]fucked[/I]. Even if they add in another 10 years to his sentence, it still wouldn't matter. Stanford will never get him in again, and I'll be [I]very[/I] surprised if any other prestigious institution will. 6 months [I]is[/I] too low, though, I agree. Maybe 3 years would hit a good spot, I don't know. I'm not a judge.
[QUOTE=Flapadar;50453875]No. [editline]4th June 2016[/editline] He's probably got extreme autism. Or trolling as mentioned above, though pretending to be severely autistic to troll folk isn't a great method I'd say.[/QUOTE] I'm sorry I don't get a hard on for putting people in prison for longer periods than needed, what would putting him in longer accomplish besides probably making him more of a criminal
[QUOTE=Omilinon;50454350]You guys need to remember that his life is basically over now. Social life? Gone. Old friends will hate him, no one will want to be connected to him. Work? Good luck with 5 felonies on your belt. His chances of going to the Olympics again? Dashed. He's [I]fucked[/I]. Even if they add in another 10 years to his sentence, it still wouldn't matter. Stanford will never get him in again, and I'll be [I]very[/I] surprised if any other prestigious institution will.[/QUOTE] Everything was in his own hands, could've pretty much prevented this entire drama by just not raping her. Must be a horrifying realization for him though, knowing that he screwed his entire life over by doing something that stupid only because he was thinking too much with his dick at that moment.
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