Snowden refuses conditioned asylum in Russia, sends requests to 19 countries via embassies/fax, most - Polidicks

[url=http://rt.com/usa/nsa-leak-snowden-live-updates-482/]RT[/url] [url=http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/02/politics/nsa-leak/index.html?hpt=wo_c2]CNN[/url] [quote](CNN) -- Edward Snowden has abandoned his effort to seek asylum in Russia after President Vladimir Putin warned that he would have to stop leaking information about U.S. surveillance programs if he wanted to stay, a Russian official said Tuesday. The anti-secrecy group WikiLeaks said it had submitted asylum requests to 19 more countries for Snowden, the ex-National Security Agency computer contractor who has admitted providing secret documents on surveillance programs to reporters. Snowden has been holed up at Moscow's Sheremetyevo International Airport for more than a week. "Snowden did voice a request to remain in Russia," Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said Tuesday, according to the Russian news agency RIA Novosti. "Then, yesterday, hearing President Putin outline Russia's position regarding the conditions under which he could do this, he withdrew his request for permission to stay in Russia." Putin said Monday that Snowden "must stop his work aimed at harming our American partners" if he wanted to stay in the country.[/quote] [quote]Below is a list of countries' comments on Snowden's asylum requests: • [del]Austria: His request is not valid, because applicants must be in Austria and submit their applications in person.[/del] • [B]Bolivia:[/B] "Yes, why not," Bolivian President Evo Morales said, according to Russia's state-run Itar-Tass news agency, which cited the Russia Today news network. "We are worried at the demeanor of countries such as U.S.A." However, despite WikiLeaks' statement, Morales said Bolivia has not received a request for asylum on Snowden's behalf, Itar-Tass reported. • [del]Brazil: The country won't grant asylum or even respond to the request, Reuters reported Tuesday, citing a Foreign Ministry spokesman.[/del] • [I][?]China[/I]: The Ministry of Foreign Affairs said Tuesday it had no information to offer on Snowden's case. • [I]Cuba:[/I] No response yet. • [B]Ecuador:[/B] The South American country has said that it's considering Snowden's request but that he needs to reach its territory. • [del]Finland: "We don't have an official application from Snowden," Jorma Vuorio, director general for the migration department of the Interior Ministry, told CNN. "He just left a letter requesting asylum at the Finnish Embassy in Moscow. According to Finnish legislation, it is not possible to leave an asylum application outside the Finnish territory."[/del] • [I]France[/I]: No response yet. • [I]Germany[/I]: No response yet. • [del]Iceland: Officials have said asylum seekers need to be in Icelandic territory in order to apply.[/del] • [del]India: Ministry of External Affairs spokesman Syed Akbaruddin said Tuesday that India will deny the request.[/del] • [del]Ireland:[/del] The Irish Justice Ministry declined to confirm whether it had received a request on Snowden's behalf, but said Irish law requires that applicants reach the country's borders before a request can be considered. • [del]Italy: The Italian Foreign Ministry said it received an asylum request by fax. The country accepts requests done in Italian territory or at the border, the ministry said.[/del] • [I]The Netherlands[/I]: No response yet. • [I]Nicaragua[/I]: No response yet. • [del]Norway: The country confirms the receipt of his request, but usually, asylum seekers must be in the country already to be allowed to apply. The Ministry of Justice is considering whether or not to process his application.[/del] • [del]Poland: Snowden's request for asylum doesn't fulfill requirements, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs said Tuesday.[del] • [del]Russia: Snowden has withdrawn his request for permission to stay in Russia, Kremlin spokesman Peskov said Tuesday, according to the news agency RIA Novosti.[/del] • [del]Spain: The country is not reviewing Snowden's request because it must be made from within or on its borders, a Foreign Ministry spokeswoman said.[/del] • [I]Switzerland[/I]: No response yet. • [B]Venezuela[/B]: "We haven't been asked for help, but when he asks, he will have an answer," President Nicolas Maduro said Tuesday.[/quote]

I do hope the lad gets well.

Poland should be struck out, but for whatever reason when I try to edit, the post is blank, so it'll have to wait.

Venezuela and Ecuador seem like good choices

[QUOTE='[Seed Eater];41280559']Poland should be struck out, but for whatever reason when I try to edit, the post is blank, so it'll have to wait.[/QUOTE] your missing the slash at the end bracket

Netherlands should also be crossed out. We don't accept asylum requests from outside the country any more.

[QUOTE=dwt110;41280574]your missing the slash at the end bracket[/QUOTE] I know, but it won't actually let me edit the post. The field is blank when I click edit, and when I just copy-paste the thing back and fix it, it still says that the field is blank ("must have at least 1 character"). [editline]2nd July 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;41280586]Netherlands should also be crossed out. We don't accept asylum requests from outside the country any more.[/QUOTE] Not until an official statement is made.

Its in our responsibility to grant Snowden asylum. And im pretty sure that at least 60% of all germans would agree. But hey, fuck democracy.

He's a fool not to stay in Russia

I just saw that Germany is considering asylum.

[QUOTE=Shiftyze;41280769]I just saw that Germany is considering asylum.[/QUOTE] Some politicians are pushing for it but we've yet to hear word from the government. The Interior Minister isn't a big fan, though, I think. I'd be happy if he was welcomed by Germany but we usually grant people asylum if they're fugitives because of race or beliefs and Snowden is neither. But there have been exceptions.

Germany will decline his demand. Some politicians are not happy with the current state and defend the NSA but only in legislative terms, it's not like they're hardcore fans of the surveillance scandal. He's getting in some trouble now.

Any country that requires you to be in the country to apply is very risky for him right now.

[QUOTE=Pat.Lithium;41280997]Any country that requires you to be in the country to apply is very risky for him right now.[/QUOTE]Which seems to be all of them. I'm guessing the asylum application system for most countries is designed around refugees of crises like wars, who'd apply for asylum only after already fleeing their own country.

He can stay in my house.

[QUOTE=Pat.Lithium;41280997]Any country that requires you to be in the country to apply is very risky for him right now.[/QUOTE] Where should he go then? Timbuktu?

Germany refused

Now he screwed himself over. He should have atleast taken asylum and then waited a bit before moving on. I hope he likes being stuck in a tiny airport hotel.

[QUOTE=laserguided;41282401]Now he screwed himself over. He should have atleast taken asylum and then waited a bit before moving on. I hope he likes being stuck in a tiny airport hotel.[/QUOTE] Its better than being in prison I suppose.

[QUOTE=laserguided;41282401]Now he screwed himself over. He should have atleast taken asylum and then waited a bit before moving on. I hope he likes being stuck in a tiny airport hotel.[/QUOTE] And sooner or later he is going to receive an unexpected visit but the gold medal in whistle blowing is worth it for him

What's the point of needed to be in a country's territory before you can request asylum there? Is escaping persecution a massive game of craps for everyone who has to do it? What's to stop some girl from Iran or something about to be stoned to death from fleeing to, say, Britain, then being turned away and sent back home to die?

just gonna post this up because at this point he's not going anywhere [t]https://imageshack.com/a/img708/8571/50k1.jpg[/t]

oh god that movie

So Ecuador wants him to travel across the world for a maybe?

I hope an EU member grants him asylum. Having the EU tell Obama to go fuck himself would be glorious.

Snowden can snow in my den.

[QUOTE=laserguided;41282401]I hope he likes being stuck in a tiny airport hotel.[/QUOTE] Better than having a car battery wired to your bollocks. Also this "you have to be here to apply!" bullshit sounds fishy as fuck. What if you turn up and they say no they can't protect you?

I thought an embassy was counted as part of the land in which it represents, e.g - The American Embassy in UK is counted as American soil, so if you run fast enough you are home free, ala Bart Simpson.

[QUOTE=Shibbey;41285135]Better than having a car battery wired to your bollocks. Also this "you have to be here to apply!" bullshit sounds fishy as fuck. What if you turn up and they say no they can't protect you?[/QUOTE] it's a trap

If France refuses I'd be so fucking full of shame. Come on land of the human rights and the lumières, live up to your expectations.