UKIP declared "second party of the north" as Lib Dems drop to 8th in local election
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[B]The UK Independence Party is now the main challenger to Labour in the North of England, leader Nigel Farage declared after his party surged in three by-elections.
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Mr Farage hailed UKIP’s ‘best-ever by-election result’ after coming second in votes in Rotherham and Middlesborough, humiliating the Conservatives and Liberal Democrats who saw support collapse.
Former Labour minister John Healey also admitted UKIP was now his party’s rival in the North, claiming ‘[B]the coalition parties are absolutely nowhere to be seen[/B]’.
In a sign of the growing unease in Tory ranks about his poor performance in northern England, the party has hired a new advisor who this week warned too many northern voters feel ignored by Westminster.
Mr Farage said: 'One of the big issues affecting northern towns for example is immigration. We are the only party saying lets end the open door to eastern Europe.
‘Over the last six months we have established ourselves as the third force in British politics. We are consistently ahead of the Lib Dems in opinion polls. The UKIP message is resonating with voters.
'Plenty of voters are coming to us from Labour. [B]The Conservative party are paranoid. They appear to be disappearing from the urban seats in northern England.[/B]’
UKIP's Mr Farage today hailed his party's result in last night's by-elections. Labour held the three seats up for election in Rotherham, Middlesborough and Croydon North.
But UKIP were the big winners, just two weeks after the anti-EU party recorded a previous record best by-election result of 14.3 per cent in Corby.
The result will heap further pressure on David Cameron, who is expected to give a major speech on Britain’s relationship with Brussels within weeks.
Elections expert Professor John Curtice said: 'UKIP are probably hoping that they are now on a roll, certainly all the way through to the European elections in June 2014.
'Certainly, last night's performances were not a flash in the pan.
'The record 22 per cent vote in Rotherham came just two weeks after a record 14 per cent in Corby.
UKIP, which advocates withdrawal from the European Union, doubled its vote from the general election when it came sixth in the seat.
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A row over a Rotherham couple who were banned from adopting because they were UKIP supporters is likely to have boosted the party’s vote.
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Why is the fucking BNP in a higher place than the Lib Dems?
[QUOTE=Smug Bastard;38651496]Why is the fucking BNP in a higher place than the Lib Dems?[/QUOTE]
nobody likes the Lib Dems because Nick Clegg is a scumbag.
[QUOTE=Coffee;38651695]nobody likes the Lib Dems because Nick Clegg is a scumbag.[/QUOTE]
I would rather vote Lib Dem than BNP. And I hate the Lib Dems.
[QUOTE=Smug Bastard;38651496]Why is the fucking BNP in a higher place than the Lib Dems?[/QUOTE]
Pretty much everyone I know hates both them and the tories because they've watered down each other's promises too much with the coalition.
I don't see the point of the lib dems any more they don't do what they are supposed to a liberal party are in favour of press regulations wtf At least voting BNP you know what to expect.
[QUOTE=Leg of Doom;38652446]I don't see the point of the lib dems any more they don't do what they are supposed to a liberal party are in favour of press regulations wtf At least voting BNP you know what to expect.[/QUOTE]
In the 2005 election one of the BNP's proposals was to bring back national service, use the additional servicemen to defend the borders from immigrants, then after you've finished national service you get to keep your gun to defend your house from gypsies.
Also, I don't think you know what you'd get if you voted the BNP in, because I'm not entirely sure they know what they'd do, save from deporting anyone who looked even slightly foreign. They'd just be sitting around going 'Shit, we actually have to govern now'.
Finally.
[QUOTE=Camundongo;38652726]In the 2005 election one of the BNP's proposals was to bring back national service, use the additional servicemen to defend the borders from immigrants, then after you've finished national service you get to keep your gun to defend your house from gypsies.
Also, I don't think you know what you'd get if you voted the BNP in, because I'm not entirely sure they know what they'd do, save from deporting anyone who looked even slightly foreign. They'd just be sitting around going 'Shit, we actually have to govern now'.[/QUOTE]
This sounds like something I'd hear out of Alabama.
[QUOTE=Camundongo;38652726]In the 2005 election one of the BNP's proposals was to bring back national service, use the additional servicemen to defend the borders from immigrants, then after you've finished national service you get to keep your gun to defend your house from gypsies.
Also, I don't think you know what you'd get if you voted the BNP in, because I'm not entirely sure they know what they'd do, save from deporting anyone who looked even slightly foreign. They'd just be sitting around going 'Shit, we actually have to govern now'.[/QUOTE]
Yeah but they also plan to improve the internet in the UK, by giving everyone fibre or something.
Of course it would be provided by the government which suggests monitoring, but hey fast internet is good right.
[quote=BNP 2010 Manifesto]
The BNP will nationalise the telecoms infrastructure to enable the creation of a not-for-profit 100Mbps broadband service across the country.
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and
[quote=BNP 2010 Manifesto]
- The BNP says that internet piracy could only be defeated by focussing on the uploaders of copyrighted material, and not on the downloaders.
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You should read their manifesto, its hilarious till you remember they are a real party.
I don't get it, it seems like the decline of the Lib Dems should give rise to someone like the Greens or Respect, not UKIP
[QUOTE=smurfy;38653109]I don't get it, it seems like the decline of the Lib Dems should give rise to someone like the Greens or Respect, not UKIP[/QUOTE]
Kinda proves they have been nothing more than a protest party for a while really.
[QUOTE=smurfy;38653109]I don't get it, it seems like the decline of the Lib Dems should give rise to someone like the Greens or Respect, not UKIP[/QUOTE]
Probably because of the amount of Euro-scepticism going around, especially as the Lib Dems can be quite conservative at times, and were even before the coalition.
[QUOTE=Coffee;38651695]nobody likes the Lib Dems because Nick Clegg is a scumbag.[/QUOTE]
this. lib dem voters aren't voting, and confused tory voters are turning to ukip because farage is a page 3 girl in the sun
Not really news.
'In the olds today, the North of England still votes Labour after 50 years of hating the Conservative Party...'
I do worry about people's intelligence if they vote BNP though. Hate the establishment? Vote an independent by all means. But not a far-right activist party!
[QUOTE=Memobot;38653300]Not really news.
'In the olds today, the North of England still votes Labour after 50 years of hating the Conservative Party...'[/QUOTE]
That's what happens when someone like Thatcher gets into power.
Not sure why everyone is worried about the BNP, they got fewer votes than in 2010. They're also pretty much bankrupt because they borrowed shitloads of money to try and ride the wave after Nick Griffin went on Question Time, but it failed so they ended up in tons of debt
Because two constituancies represent the entire of the Norh - and Labour won by more than two thirds in both, so UKIP supporters shouldn't really celebrate over this. They still have a massive (and seemingly impossible) mountain to climb.
One of those byelections was in the town just over from me, I really am not surprised at the results
I look forward to the day UKIP has more seats than the Lib Dems and the Conservatives.
Which won't be too long now when I think about it.
[QUOTE=Midas22;38653906]I look forward to the day UKIP has more seats than the Lib Dems and the Conservatives.
Which won't be too long now when I think about it.[/QUOTE]
Me too, that'll be the day when I emigrate.
Make sure to get your parent's permission first.
[QUOTE=Midas22;38653939]Make sure to get your parent's permission first.[/QUOTE]
tia
[QUOTE=smurfy;38653334]after Nick Griffin went on Question Time[/QUOTE]
oh what a laugh that was
in case you missed it:
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iKfrY9l2kY[/media]
[QUOTE=smurfy;38653109]I don't get it, it seems like the decline of the Lib Dems should give rise to someone like the Greens or Respect, not UKIP[/QUOTE]
Eeew, respect are a terrible party.
[QUOTE=smurfy;38653334]Not sure why everyone is worried about the BNP, they got fewer votes than in 2010. They're also pretty much bankrupt because they borrowed shitloads of money to try and ride the wave after Nick Griffin went on Question Time, but it failed so they ended up in tons of debt[/QUOTE]
It even says in the image the change is -1.96%.
They were also found out to be stamping hundred of thousands of pounds worth of unpaid invoices as paid.
[QUOTE=matt.ant;38654143]It even says in the image the change is -1.96%.
They were also found out to be stamping hundred of thousands of pounds worth of unpaid invoices as paid.[/QUOTE]
Ah yes, one of worst attempts at fraud I've heard about.
I'm not worried about the BNP, I just think it's funny to laugh at them. It's what they deserve really.
UKIP having massive heads as usual. It's the Tories that are the 2nd party of the North. Several constituents in the northern countryside are strictly Conservatives. All you have to do is check the electoral map results and viola.
[QUOTE=Stockers678;38653431]Because two constituancies represent the entire of the Norh - and Labour won by more than two thirds in both, so UKIP supporters shouldn't really celebrate over this. They still have a massive (and seemingly impossible) mountain to climb.[/QUOTE]
Agree. Stronghold constituents are stronghold constituents (Thank you, FPTP). They can't be broken that easily. Plus, UKIP's main appeal is its anti-EU rhetoric, making them more suitable to elect on EU parliament elections rather than on British general elections.
All Hail the Starks, the Party in the North!
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