Male Modesty Not Appreciated by Female or Male Interviewers, Study Suggests
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[quote][B]ScienceDaily (July 31, 2010)[/B]
[I]Macho, macho man. I’ve got to be, a macho man. Macho, macho man. I’ve got to be a macho![/I] — The Village People
It's more than 30 years since that Disco Era anthem first blared though dance club speakers and into America's consciousness, but does the message still sing true for the 2lst century male? Does he still got to be a macho man? Are there penalties for not being macho enough?
Corinne A. Moss-Racusin, a doctoral candidate in Rutgers' Department of Psychology, explored the consequences for men (and women) when they acted modestly in job interviews. She co-authored, with graduate fellow Julie E. Phelan and Professor Laurie A. Rudman, "When Men Break the Gender Rules: Status Incongruity and Backlash Against Modest Men" in the journal Psychology of Men and Masculinity.
According to Moss-Racusin, the applicants in the staged interviews were judged equally competent, but the "modest" males were less liked, a sign of social backlash. Modesty was viewed as a sign of weakness, a low-status character trait for males that could adversely affect their employability or earnings potential. Modesty in women, however, was not viewed negatively nor was it linked to status.
"For men and women, there are things they must and must not be," Moss-Racusin says. "Women must be communal and other-oriented, but they must not be dominant. Historically and cross-culturally, men have been stereotyped as more agentic, that is, more independent and self-focused than women."
In the study, 132 female and 100 male student volunteers (who earned partial academic credit for their psychology course) viewed videotaped, 15-minute job interviews of either males or females. All the applicants were paid actors rehearsed to deliver similar, "modest" responses for the gender-neutral position that required strong technical abilities and social skills.
The researchers sought to determine which gender stereotype promote backlash. "Women are allowed to be weak while this trait is strongly prohibited in men," Moss-Racusin said. "By contrast, dominance is reserved for men and prohibited for women. Thus, gender stereotypes are comprised of four sets of rules and expectations for behavior consist of both 'shoulds' and 'should nots' for each gender."
The researchers' prediction that modest male applicants would face hiring discrimination was not supported, however, and she speculates that because men's status is higher than women's, meek men are afforded the benefit of the doubt and are less likely to encounter hiring discrimination than dominant women.[/quote]
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This is interesting, albeit a pretty obvious conclusion to come to. It makes sense that an employer would go for the more outgoing and strong applicant, it makes good business sense that people with drive would be more readily taken on board. I'm surprised at the findings with women though, I'd have assumed the same would apply. I suppose though, subconsciously gender roles will still prevail even in a world where there are 'equal opportunities'.
Also, that funky disco tune.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AO43p2Wqc08[/media]
The name's Dean. No doubt you've seen my resume, and I know what you were thinking when you read that. Yes, I am actually that handsome.
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I am going to increase my skills in everything ten-fold now thanks to this research. I am now a rocket scientist for NASA who does modeling in his spare time with several hundred women.
Your source isn't working for me. Is it me, or the source?
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;23790182]Your source isn't working for me. Is it me, or the source?[/QUOTE]
He fixed it now.
He forgot to paste the link when he made the [url=] lol.
God fucking damnit...I hate people :sigh:
I know I'm not the best but I'll do my damn best :v:
Oh dammit I'm a fool. Link in the OP fixed.
And my respect for humanity ticks another notch lower...
Fuck gender, I'll be modest if I want.
Leopard-print banana hammock to the next job interview, gotchya
Fuck men and women for judging us like that ._.
[QUOTE=Swilly;23790855]Fuck men and women for judging us like that ._.[/QUOTE]
Gotta love the passive aggressive snarkiness. That sure points you out as a prime specimen.
fuck that, ill do what i want
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Guess i'm screwed, then. Oh well.
Be super macho like me to obtain my killer ban record.
[QUOTE=FuckingHellshit;23794839]Gotta love the passive aggressive snarkiness. That sure points you out as a prime specimen.[/QUOTE]
Eh, if they told me that to my face, I'd curse them off. I'm not modest when angry.
This is why Facepunch will never get a job.
I don't get why the reactions to this are negative. Modesty sometimes is mistaken as a lack of confidence.
This is fucking ridiclious.
This kind of crap needs to be stamped out of society.
I suppose this is good, I'm not modest at all.
I don't get the big deal. You're supposed to sell yourself at job interviews. Usually the more passionate you pretend to be about a job, the more likely you are to get hired.
[QUOTE=Doriol;23827006]I don't get the big deal. You're supposed to sell yourself at job interviews. Usually the more passionate you pretend to be about a job, the more likely you are to get hired.[/QUOTE]
There is a difference between, "I've always wanted to work at this job," and "I'm the best fucking thing to ever happen."
[QUOTE=Swilly;23827045]There is a difference between, "I've always wanted to work at this job," and "I'm the best fucking thing to ever happen."[/QUOTE]
I don't think you understand confidence or passion at all.
Oh well, I'm fucked. Guess I'll be jobless forever.
[QUOTE=Doriol;23827131]I don't think you understand confidence or passion at all.[/QUOTE]
I know they're at least different?
[QUOTE=Swilly;23827259]I know they're at least different?[/QUOTE]
stop being such a nerd
[QUOTE=Doriol;23827317]stop being such a nerd[/QUOTE]
Stop being such a dick.
On topic: Not a surprise to me. I'm a modest person and don't get much respect, even if i help everybody out and try to be the best person i can be.
It saddens me that society is so conflicting and just kind of inclined towards, well, being a dick. :smith:
I don't think they want you to brag and be a douche.
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