Comparing eating animals to slavery and "male dominance."
I want whatever she's smoking because it's gotta be some good shit.
A dr? What's her doctorate in, bullshit?
[QUOTE=Gray Altoid;52398485]A dr? What's her doctorate in, bullshit?[/QUOTE]
I dunno, art maybe?
yeah its all brain washing lady our biology certainly can't tell us if we're meant to eat meat or not
oh wait
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[QUOTE=Gray Altoid;52398485]A dr? What's her doctorate in, bullshit?[/QUOTE]
Psychology.
AKA the degree literally anyone can get and one of the most bloated fields in the US. She went to Harvard too. You can guess she's been part of a rich family and hasn't really experienced the world outside of her small bubble and understanding of that small bubble. She's also had a TEDx talk, which means she has connections at a University or two, probably financially (rich family and all).
Small note: TEDx isn't TED talks - they're hosted by individual universities usually. Any ridiculous TED talk you've ever heard before was probably a TEDx talk. They have very low requirements to get one/they do not background check people. A good example of this is:
[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yFhR1fKWG0[/media]
So yeah, you should take her about as seriously as Sam Hyde, as in not at all.
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It is though?
I mean be gay all you want I dont care but, to say that heterosexual supremacy is not necessary isnt right. In order for a species to survive it needs babies and thats not exactly going to happen if most males are banging males or females banging females.
it's another episode of "person who has a hyper-circumstantial epiphany in early childhood about food and animals and moral absolutism" trying to peddle their own misguided, babbys-first-moral-dilemma nonsense as the ultimate truth
animals exist for us to cultivate, mold, shape or bend to our will whichever way we see fit because intelligence is the epitome of evolution itself, and we possess literal god-like knowledge to either terminate or nourish entire fucking species
as such certain animals must suffer for our pleasure, and certain animals are treated better than we treat fellow humans. it's our responsibility to choose carefully which animal gets which treatment because we are the only ones capable of making that kind of decision to begin with.
[QUOTE=Bird;52398590]It could be argued that homosexual people can reproduce anyway through a variety of methods. What is natural is at least to me completely irrelevant and what is normal changes all the time.[/QUOTE]
yeah man did you know kaputian monkeys are secretly all fags and they have sperm banks to help further the continuation of the species?
Okay hotshot, what exactly are we supposed to do with cattle should meat be phased out? They can't survive in the wild, they're too heavily domesticated.
[QUOTE=Bird;52398664]Not what I meant, I specifically said homosexual people. As in, today, a person should not feel that it is necessary to find a partner of the opposite sex to produce children. Even if we didn't have all of the medical options of today you could simply produce a child with someone outside of your relationship.[/QUOTE]
I agree but you have to acknowledge that humans are literally the only species on the planet like this
[QUOTE=thrawn2787;52398615]yeah man did you know kaputian monkeys are secretly all fags and they have sperm banks to help further the continuation of the species?[/QUOTE]
thats why they have ass babies duh
Jesus christ the youtube comments
"I thought it was going to be about us being primates, who often eat meat... Nah, we are just monsters.•"
:suicide:
[QUOTE=Melnek;52398602]animals exist for us to cultivate, mold, shape or bend to our will whichever way we see fit because intelligence is the epitome of evolution itself, and we possess literal god-like knowledge to either terminate or nourish entire fucking species[/QUOTE]
animals don't exist for us to cultivate/mold/shape or bend to our will. they exist because they are the product of millions of years of evolution like ourselves.
and we don't possess god-like knowledge at all, (most of the time we have driven animals to extinction has largely been by accident). intelligence isn't really the epitome of evolution either - it's a trait just like any other because in our instance it's been selected for due to the fact it produced more babies. there are plenty of examples of humans who actually became less intelligent because reduced intelligence was something selected for in those instances. it is almost certain there will come a time in the future where in some place or time it will be advantageous to be less intelligent. there's nothing much really separating us from the other animals.
Comparing pets to domesticated animals. Its apples to oranges.
[QUOTE=thrawn2787;52398615]yeah man did you know kaputian monkeys are secretly all fags and they have sperm banks to help further the continuation of the species?[/QUOTE]
[quote=thrawn2787]kaputian[/quote]
Are you talking about monkeys from the Philippines, or [I]capuchins?[/I]
whoops
[QUOTE=Ignhelper;52398753]Comparing pets to domesticated animals. Its apples to oranges.[/QUOTE]
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IDK if this counts as a reaction image but I feel like it fits the occasion given the topic at hand.
[QUOTE=legolover122;52398844][img]http://i.imgur.com/22uV9N7.jpg[/img]
IDK if this counts as a reaction image but I feel like it fits the occasion given the topic at hand.[/QUOTE]
They could have at least put a little diversity in that billboard, half of it is dogs and cats.
Also another thing about this video is the way shes talking while not looking directly into the camera, gives off this arrogant smugness and seems like shes talking down to the viewer. [sp]see I can do psychology too![/sp] Anita did the same shit in her videos.
[QUOTE=legolover122;52398844][img]http://i.imgur.com/22uV9N7.jpg[/img]
IDK if this counts as a reaction image but I feel like it fits the occasion given the topic at hand.[/QUOTE]
Rabbit and horse should switch places
[QUOTE=Helix Snake;52398888]Rabbit and horse should switch places[/QUOTE]
Both are edible, so just move the line.
[QUOTE=thrawn2787;52398684]I agree but you have to acknowledge that humans are literally the only species on the planet like this[/QUOTE]
Half of all black swans are gay.
The more you know.
[QUOTE=legolover122;52398464]Comparing eating animals to slavery and "male dominance."
I want whatever she's smoking because it's gotta be some good shit.[/QUOTE]
Could you explain why the analogies are faulty? You do know how analogies work?
[QUOTE=thrawn2787;52398504]yeah its all brain washing lady our biology certainly can't tell us if we're [B]meant[/B] to eat meat or not
oh wait
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If I had a penny for everytime someone commited a is-ought fallacy in defending current meat-eating habits...
[QUOTE=Cmx;52398531][t]http://i.imgur.com/FGuxP6a.png[/t]
It is though?
I mean be gay all you want I dont care but, to say that heterosexual supremacy is not necessary isnt right. In order for a species to survive it needs babies and thats not exactly going to happen if most males are banging males or females banging females.[/QUOTE]
You seem to be misunderstanding what 'supremacy' means in this context. Supremacy of heterosexuality (it being regarded as better than homosexuality) is certainly not necessary. Regarding both as equal does not entail we do not survive as a species.
[QUOTE=Melnek;52398602]animals exist for us to cultivate, mold, shape or bend to our will whichever way we see fit because intelligence is the epitome of evolution itself, and we possess literal god-like knowledge to either terminate or nourish entire fucking species
as such certain animals must suffer for our pleasure, and certain animals are treated better than we treat fellow humans. it's our responsibility to choose carefully which animal gets which treatment because we are the only ones capable of making that kind of decision to begin with.[/QUOTE]
Again, is-ought fallacy. Animals exist just because they do, not for any purpose (unless you believe in a creator or whatever).
[QUOTE=A Sock Accnt;52398644]Okay hotshot, what exactly are we supposed to do with cattle should meat be phased out? They can't survive in the wild, they're too heavily domesticated.[/QUOTE]
Stop breeding them.
Honestly, at the end of the day, meat is meat. How we differentiate between what is an edible animal and what is our best bud is purely subjective, based on emotion and abundance (or trial and error due to toxicity and whatnot; or religious preferance). However, that being said, animals such as dogs, horses, and camels- for instance- have shown qualities that make up for aspects that we as humans lack. Canines in the past, helped us hunt and shepherd; horses and camels helped us with transportation and labor; et cetera, et cetera.
The only real difference between years passed and today is that farm animals (cows, pigs, chickens, by extension fish, etc.) have proven to be efficient sources of meats that are viable to our diets; but, because human population has expanded exponentially in the last couple thousand years, we had to develop a means to mass produce that source of meat, milk, eggs, what have you. Suggesting that going all vegan/vegetarian will lead to a fully healthier life is only half-right since meats, milks, and other products developed from animals, provide other forms of nutrients in varying abundance that our bodies need (or at the very least thrive on).
I love animals, but I also understand the need for food. Should a wolf feel guilty for eating a hare? Her perspective stems from emotional attachment and her own negative experience with eating meat (because of her falling ill). My brother; for example, to this day, will not eat eggs because when we lived in Ghana, the eggs were transported in the same containers as fish and therefore tasted fishy; and on one or two occasions we got sick from them. He developed a psychological distaste for eggs.
Suggesting that our desire to eat meats and animal products is a sinister form of manipulation by the elite (a la slavery or patriarchy) is ludicrous, inaccurate, and hyperbolic.
[QUOTE=Melnek;52398602]animals exist for us to cultivate, mold, shape or bend to our will whichever way we see fit because intelligence is the epitome of evolution itself, and we possess literal god-like knowledge to either terminate or nourish entire fucking species
as such certain animals must suffer for our pleasure, and certain animals are treated better than we treat fellow humans. it's our responsibility to choose carefully which animal gets which treatment because we are the only ones capable of making that kind of decision to begin with.[/QUOTE]
this is either an elaborately-crafted parody or you're severely misunderstanding evolution among many other things
I'm all for veganism and shit but these types of people always turn to be egomaniacs in the end who can't help but find reasons for people to be below them
[QUOTE=Maosaic;52398968]Could you explain why the analogies are faulty? You do know how analogies work?
If I had a penny for everytime someone commited a is-ought fallacy in defending current meat-eating habits...
You seem to be misunderstanding what 'supremacy' means in this context. Supremacy of heterosexuality (it being regarded as better than homosexuality) is certainly not necessary. Regarding both as equal does not entail we do not survive as a species.
Again, is-ought fallacy. Animals exist just because they do, not for any purpose (unless you believe in a creator or whatever).
Stop breeding them.[/QUOTE]
Do you care to elaborate on said supposed fallacies or are you just going to throw out a bigger non argument and act like you've won
[QUOTE=thrawn2787;52399028]Do you care to elaborate on said supposed fallacies or are you just going to throw out a bigger non argument and act like you've won[/QUOTE]
As in being able to eat meat =/= we're meant to eat meat. I.e. deriving an is from an ought. I don't see how that's a non-argument !
[QUOTE=Maosaic;52399032]As in being able to eat meat =/= we're meant to eat meat. I.e. deriving an is from an ought. I don't see how that's a non-argument ![/QUOTE]
We are meant to eat meat tho?
It's a good source of energy and if we weren't meant to, our digestive system wouldnt be able to properly digest meats
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