• Anything else to know about Salvia?
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Me and 2 friends are gonna try and get our hands on some Salvia tomorrow and if all goes according to plan we'll be smoking it later with my new bong. So I've done some research on it and from what i can gather: [code]We need to heat it a lot and burn continually while smoking A sitter or several for our first time Have 1-3 hits consecutively Be in a safe area [/code] I've used Erowid to find the information, not entirely sure on what dosage the shop sells, recommended dose for each dose? and is 1-3 hits a good idea?
Be in a good mood. If you feel bad or are pissed, etc. [B]DON'T FUCKING DO IT.[/b] You'll have a terrible trip.
1-3 hits? what? How strong is it? I did 20x and i just took one large hit and held it in as long as possible and that was all i needed
Yeah, pretty much. The first time, I had to take two hits of 20x back to back to fully experience it, but after that, the reverse tolerance kicked in. Measure out a penny-sized amount of Saliva, and smoke that all in one go, holding it for at least 30 seconds, or until your vision starts getting shaking. As soon as you exhale, you should feel the Salvia taking over your mind. [editline]12:08AM[/editline] Set & Setting is absolutely fucking vital on Salvia, as well. You must have a sitter present, someone who will make sure you don't hurt yourself or someone else. My friends and I just did it in turns. It's easiest that way.
Just one hit is perfect really. Just find an extract that suits you. 20x is probably the best (and as far as I have gone) to try. You'll giggle like you've never giggled before. It's pretty awesome but very short lived.
I didn't giggle on salvia. I didn't find anything funny. In fact, I found the inability to form words extremely frustrating. I hate salvia :geno: [editline]12:27AM[/editline] My mind was clear as shit, but I felt physically retarded
I could barely move my mouth as it started, I couldn't speak but MAN you laugh so hard it's insane. It's not euphoric whatsoever so I don't understand why the giggling happens. I guess it depends if you "breakthrough" as it were. Giggling is a classic sign that you haven't in which case I've not experienced Salvia to the full extent, and I don't plan to as it's really not that significant.
Man, I've had so many salvia trips where I couldn't do anything but sit back, close my eyes, and fly through the void...
Kappa agonism is so utterly dull. I don't really understand its significance in the neural network to be frank. It doesn't strike me as the sort of thing that would help in any situation. mu makes perfect sense because of endorphins etc. 5ht2x makes sense because of fight or flight but kappa, I really don't get it. Will have to read up on it.
[QUOTE=Anubis678;22268522]I didn't giggle on salvia. I didn't find anything funny. In fact, I found the inability to form words extremely frustrating. I hate salvia :geno: [editline]12:27AM[/editline] My mind was clear as shit, but I felt physically retarded[/QUOTE] This is how I felt. Shit was awful. I only do it when my friends have it and we're getting fucked anyway.
I did 30x. Nothing happened, shit just tasted horrible, I want to give it another try though.
Everyone thinks they are super badass when they think they can handle really high concentrations, when they just end up rolling around on the floor making an ass out of themselves. Shit is funny, though. I recommend taking low concentration hits. It's much better when you're not trippin hard and can still function properly. One hit should be enough, just make sure to hold it in.
[QUOTE=tomahawk2;22273125]Everyone thinks they are super badass when they think they can handle really high concentrations, when they just end up rolling around on the floor making an ass out of themselves.[/QUOTE] Not everyone in incapable of handling themselves under the influence of drugs. [QUOTE=tomahawk2;22273125]I recommend taking low concentration hits. It's much better when you're not trippin hard and can still function properly. One hit should be enough, just make sure to hold it in.[/QUOTE] Why wouldn't you want the full experience?
[QUOTE=Anubis678;22273199]Not everyone in incapable of handling themselves under the influence of drugs. Why wouldn't you want the full experience?[/QUOTE] I should've been more clearer. When you're with a friend and want to go way out there, yeah sure, but its better when you can still communicate because you can talk and interact with the people around you, but when you're in the middle of a huge trip its like you are on another plane of existence. I've also never seen anyone who could handle strong salvia. Every person is gone within 30-40 seconds.
[QUOTE=tomahawk2;22273269]When you're with a friend and want to go way out there, yeah sure, but its better when you can still communicate because you can talk and interact with the people around you[/QUOTE] You're doing the wrong drug, then... and for the wrong reasons, no less... [QUOTE=tomahawk2;22273269]when you're in the middle of a huge trip its like you are on another plane of existence. I've also never seen anyone who could handle strong salvia. Every person is gone within 30-40 seconds.[/QUOTE] Yeah, that's the fucking point of salvia. You're supposed to lay back, close your eyes, and explore your mind. It's not a social drug.
[QUOTE=Anubis678;22273354]You're doing the wrong drug, then... and for the wrong reasons, no less... Yeah, that's the fucking point of salvia. You're supposed to lay back, close your eyes, and explore your mind. It's not a social drug.[/QUOTE] It's a plant, bro.
Your point?
[QUOTE=Anubis678;22273449]Your point?[/QUOTE] There is no right way to use it. If you want to plant them around your house because the plant looks nice, who the fuck cares? You can use it to "explore your mind", to look like a complete idiot in front of your friends, or use it as a social drug, there are no "reasons" for salvia. It was a plant that existed long before you, I, and any other human, so how would you know what the plant exists for?
[QUOTE=tomahawk2;22273580]There is no right way to use it. If you want to plant them around your house because the plant looks nice, who the fuck cares? You can use it to "explore your mind", to look like a complete idiot in front of your friends, or use it as a social drug, there are no "reasons" for salvia. It was a plant that existed long before you, I, and any other human, so how would you know what the plant exists for?[/QUOTE] Oh shut the fuck up, you stupid piece of shit. You can't use Salvia as a fucking party drug. Any drug that makes you incapable of communication is ill suited for social situations. If you're looking for a good bonding experience, there are a plethora of uppers and downers that are meant for just that. Oh, and feel free to tell that to the people who have been using Salvia as a spiritual/religious/introspective tool since the discovery of the plant. Feel free to go talk to an experienced "user" and see how your dumb ass gets laughed at. I hate fuckers like you.
[QUOTE=Anubis678;22273818]Oh shut the fuck up, you stupid piece of shit. You can't use Salvia as a fucking party drug. Any drug that makes you incapable of communication is ill suited for social situations. If you're looking for a good bonding experience, there are a plethora of uppers and downers that are meant for just that. Oh, and feel free to tell that to the people who have been using Salvia as a spiritual/religious/introspective tool since the discovery of the plant. Feel free to go talk to an experienced "user" and see how your dumb ass gets laughed at. I hate fuckers like you.[/QUOTE] Agreed wholeheartedly.
No one else got HOT AS SHIT? I did. Literally felt like I had heaters surrounding me, every time I smoked any of it.
Not really. I lost connection with my stimuli to be honest. Pupil dilation is pretty cool on this drug actually. I've always wondered if it's significantly analgesic.
First time I tried Salvia I had bought an ounce of just the raw leaf from eBay, it was pretty cool and gave some nice effects but nothing near the extracts level. From then I bought a gram of 60x, and fuck that shit is crazy. Use a torch lighter if you can, salvia vaporizes at high temperatures that can be gotten easier with one. [editline]01:15PM[/editline] [QUOTE=rnate;22276022]No one else got HOT AS SHIT? I did. Literally felt like I had heaters surrounding me, every time I smoked any of it.[/QUOTE] Yep, it makes me sweaty as fuuck. Fun fact of the day: Salvia is actually an opiate :O
[QUOTE=catch33;22277926] Fun fact of the day: Salvia is actually an opiate :O[/QUOTE] It's not
[url]http://lmgtfy.com/?q=salvia+divinorum+opiate[/url] It acts on opioid receptors.
[QUOTE=Adrego;22278948][url]http://lmgtfy.com/?q=salvia+divinorum+opiate[/url] It acts on opioid receptors.[/QUOTE] Doesn't make it an opiate medically. For example kappa agonism causes pupil dilation whereas mu agonism causes pupil constriction. They're not comparable whatsoever.
[QUOTE=rnate;22276022]No one else got HOT AS SHIT? I did. Literally felt like I had heaters surrounding me, every time I smoked any of it.[/QUOTE] Oh shit dude, I forgot about that. But yeah, it was like stepping into an over. I would be sweating bullets by the time that I snapped out of it.
[QUOTE=Dan The Man;22279802]Doesn't make it an opiate medically. For example kappa agonism causes pupil dilation whereas mu agonism causes pupil constriction. They're not comparable whatsoever.[/QUOTE] Exactly, I was replying more to catch, probably should've made that clear :smile:
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