[QUOTE]The company have been internally testing the Linux client for a while, and recently announced that an ‘external’ beta Linux users would be coming out ‘sometime in October’. No specific date was given.
But, today, a request from Canonical’s Bryce H. to Ubuntu developers has offered up a more definite time-frame – one that seems to be happening this week.
He wrote in his request:
“Could an archive or SRU admin accept nvidia-common and jockey from the upload queue?
These are needed for the Valve Steam release that happens in a few days.”
The bad-ish news is that only 1000 people will have access to the external beta to begin with. So as close as its release is it won’t be landing in the laps of everyone quite yet.
But it’s still exciting, no?
[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/10/steam-for-linux-to-arrive-in-a-few-days[/url]
I do believe that Gabe recently said it will be a closed beta for a while though
October... 2016?
Valve time, c'mon
Black Mesa Source released, New XCOM game, Patch to fix Thief 2, New Max Payne...
and now this.
2012 is a damn good year.
I'm not sure how I feel about this
A closed user experience filled with DRM and programs you must buy to use, being ported to a free open-source OS doesn't sound right to me.
I don't have a problem directly with it, but if it helps Linux gain more attention from developers my only hope is that Linux will keep this whole spirit it currently revolves around (and that's something that most likely won't happen)
Its a massive shame that its unlikely much will come out of it, considering it will probably be less popular then the Mac version.. and the Mac version does not have any AAA other then Black Ops and Source games.
[QUOTE=Aiksey;37876076]I'm not sure how I feel about this
A closed user experience filled with DRM and programs you must buy to use, being ported to a free open-source OS doesn't sound right to me.
I don't have a problem directly with it, but if it helps Linux gain more attention from developers my only hope is that Linux will keep this whole spirit it currently revolves around (and that's something that most likely won't happen)[/QUOTE]
Now where is my Stallman-b-gone spray??
I doubt steam for linux will be as huge as steam for mac, not like steam for mac was huge but its game collection is slowly gaining because of how macs marketshare is performing
linux however I can see game developers not finding the need to port to linux, but hey I'm glad to see linux have steam
Steam for Maemo 5 gogogogogogggogogoogogoggooo
[QUOTE=Aiksey;37876076]I'm not sure how I feel about this
A closed user experience filled with DRM and programs you must buy to use, being ported to a free open-source OS doesn't sound right to me.
I don't have a problem directly with it, but if it helps Linux gain more attention from developers my only hope is that Linux will keep this whole spirit it currently revolves around (and that's something that most likely won't happen)[/QUOTE]
This brings [B]a lot[/B] of attention to the OS and hopefully inspires others to follow.
But I'm happy either way, as long as I get to use Steam in Linux which I pretty much only use for chatting now makes my pants wet.
About damn time! Now if only other developers could figure out how to get out of the single framework strut, I would have faith in coders once again. The Linux community better embrace this hard or it is our own fault for failing ourselves again. With a big developer like valve and our proven value from things like our contribution price in humble packs... This is one of our last chances I think.
[QUOTE=ejonkou;37876074]Black Mesa Source released, New XCOM game, Patch to fix Thief 2, New Max Payne...
and now this.
2012 is a damn good year.[/QUOTE]
that's a really picky-choosy list of things that make 2012 a good year
i for one dont give a shit about xcom or a thief 2 patch
[QUOTE=fruxodaily;37876153]I doubt steam for linux will be as huge as steam for mac, not like steam for mac was huge but its game collection is slowly gaining because of how macs marketshare is performing[/QUOTE]
Do you know that you have to buy a Mac to use Mac OS X and run Steam on a mac?
Do you know that you can install Linux on your mac/PC/toaster and do what the fuck you want?
Personally I'm happy if Steam comes to Linux, even if it is just a few games. From what I've heard it's been the only real thing holding a good amount of people back from Linux, and while that's most likely mistaken, it shows that there is a want for Linux.
Steam + Source Games without wine, that's what I'm looking forward to.
[QUOTE=Van-man;37876118]Now where is my Stallman-b-gone spray??[/QUOTE]
People are way too defensive of Steam on these forums. Please, at least attempt to use actual arguments.
Steam is DRM and almost a monopoly. As Steam users we rely on Valve to keep doing the right thing. Recently, they changed the EULA, and you were locked out of your account until you agreed to the changes. Your games were effectively held hostage until you agreed to their conditions. Whether their conditions were unreasonable or not is really relevant, because this sets a precedent - in theory, they could repeat this move in the future with different conditions. Then there's the times when the DRM intrudes with "this game is currently unavailable".
I'm a heavy Steam user myself and I trust Valve a lot, but I'm also really glad there are people out there criticising Steam for what are real problems.
[QUOTE=jA_cOp;37876427]People are way too defensive of Steam on these forums. Please, at least attempt to use actual arguments.
Steam is DRM and almost a monopoly. As Steam users we rely on Valve to keep doing the right thing. Recently, they changed the EULA, and you were locked out of your account until you agreed to the changes. Your games were effectively held hostage until you agreed to their conditions. Whether their conditions were unreasonable or not is really relevant, because this sets a precedent - in theory, they could repeat this move in the future with different conditions. Then there's the times when the DRM intrudes with "this game is currently unavailable".
I'm a heavy Steam user myself and I trust Valve a lot, but I'm also really glad there are people out there criticising Steam for what are real problems.[/QUOTE]
I'm in Europe, the EULA means jackshit.
They sell goods to Europe, then they must adhere to European laws regarding consumer satisfaction.
It's mostly to protect them from bogus lawsuits and those cases of people seriously abusing steam games (hackers / cheaters / etc etc)
[QUOTE=Van-man;37876487]I'm in Europe, the EULA means jackshit.
They sell goods to Europe, then they must adhere to European laws regarding consumer satisfaction.[/QUOTE]
Well look how well they're shoving up their ass that "anybody is supposed to be able to resell digital content they bought" european court ruling
[QUOTE=Jookia;37876328]Do you know that you have to buy a Mac to use Mac OS X and run Steam on a mac?
Do you know that you can install Linux on your mac/PC/toaster and do what the fuck you want?
Personally I'm happy if Steam comes to Linux, even if it is just a few games. From what I've heard it's been the only real thing holding a good amount of people back from Linux, and while that's most likely mistaken, it shows that there is a want for Linux.[/QUOTE]
The fact that you can easily load linux on your windows machine doesn't really mean much for the install base to be completely honest.
It would mean a lot of if a sizeable portion of machines were sold with linux bundled and ready so that end users got to it directly.
But let's be honest here - you really really don't want to give OEM's a market for linux and it's modularity. All you need to know that would be a bad idea is to a) take a look at the crapware they bundle with windows already and b) take a look at android.
imagine OEM's aproaching linux like they do android.
[QUOTE=jA_cOp;37876427]People are way too defensive of Steam on these forums. Please, at least attempt to use actual arguments.
Steam is DRM and almost a monopoly. As Steam users we rely on Valve to keep doing the right thing. Recently, they changed the EULA, and you were locked out of your account until you agreed to the changes. Your games were effectively held hostage until you agreed to their conditions. Whether their conditions were unreasonable or not is really relevant, because this sets a precedent - in theory, they could repeat this move in the future with different conditions. Then there's the times when the DRM intrudes with "this game is currently unavailable".
I'm a heavy Steam user myself and I trust Valve a lot, but I'm also really glad there are people out there criticising Steam for what are real problems.[/QUOTE]the game being unavailable is usually a result of local steam issues
[QUOTE=Chernarus;37876090]Its a massive shame that its unlikely much will come out of it, considering it will probably be less popular then the Mac version.. and the Mac version does not have any AAA other then Black Ops and Source games.[/QUOTE]
another uninformed post by chernarus, nothing to see here people
[QUOTE=jA_cOp;37876427][B]Your[/B] games were effectively held hostage until you agreed to their conditions. [/QUOTE]
Those aren't [B]our[/B] games. These are Valves games which we pay once for to rent.
You agreed to this when you signed up.
[QUOTE=Aspen;37877299]another uninformed post by chernarus, nothing to see here people[/QUOTE]
elaborate
They weren't your games to be held hostage in the first place
[QUOTE=LordCrypto;37720753]A. Valve has to remove the "you can't CAL us." and supposedly the hack to get around the trading which is B.
B. software license != (currently) infinite time rental
[editline]18th September 2012[/editline]
as of right now, Valve owns all the copies of BL2 on PC. You are borrowing from gaben's game collection, and he lets you play with them as long as you want, as long as you promise to let him watch while you play (steam DRM). If hypothetical gaben were to be in a car crash, he'll will the games to you, so you own them and instead of him watching you play, you'll be sad, but you can do whatever when you are playing, even playing in your underpants if you so wish.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Chernarus;37877353]elaborate[/QUOTE]
i have a lot of games that i play on my mac.
killing floor, endless space, eve online, GTA:SA/VC, the binding of isaac, sanctum, etc...
[QUOTE=Aspen;37877440]i have a lot of games that i play on my mac.
killing floor, endless space, eve online, GTA:SA/VC, the binding of isaac, sanctum, etc...[/QUOTE]
I did say AAA, and it still isn't very popular. I did not know GTA:SA/VC had Mac ports. My point is still correct.. you can't call me uninformed for missing a few random indies which I never mentioned or not knowing about some obscure port for a really old game.
wonder how this checks out with valve time
[IMG]http://puu.sh/1azJ3[/IMG]
aw ma- WAIT WHA
[IMG]http://puu.sh/1azJG[/IMG]
[editline]1st October 2012[/editline]
according to previous evidence tomorrow night's the night.
[QUOTE=Aiksey;37876741]Well look how well they're shoving up their ass that "anybody is supposed to be able to resell digital content they bought" european court ruling[/QUOTE]
Look at how Microsoft is being reprimanded for something they promised.
They're giving them time to figure out a way, but when that time is over, hoo boy.
Have they said if Valve will be releasing Source games like they did for Mac? I'd assume they did, hopefully Garry ports Gmod to Linux like he did for Mac.
[QUOTE=Keegs;37878517]Have they said if Valve will be releasing Source games like they did for Mac? I'd assume they did, hopefully Garry ports Gmod to Linux like he did for Mac.[/QUOTE]
If memory serves, it won't be all at once, it'll be gradual.
[QUOTE=Aiksey;37876076]I'm not sure how I feel about this
A closed user experience filled with DRM and programs you must buy to use, being ported to a free open-source OS doesn't sound right to me.
I don't have a problem directly with it, but if it helps Linux gain more attention from developers my only hope is that Linux will keep this whole spirit it currently revolves around (and that's something that most likely won't happen)[/QUOTE]
you do realize Linux distros are like...superior to Windows right? Remember Windows is only used by use techy forum users solely because of games, well most of us are.
[editline]1st October 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=Chernarus;37877353]elaborate[/QUOTE]
ok
for the billionth fucking time: Gabe wants Linux to be a big platform for gaming, because MS is now a competitor to Steam. Valve is going to be encouraging Linux support.
He has also said he wants to "make it as easy as possible to run all 2500 steam games on Linux" idk that sorta sounds like Valve is going to add major contributions to Wine, or use their huge influence on the PC gaming scene and convince lots and lots and lots of devs.
Also because Mac OSX and Linux are both OpenGL, porting between them is a dream.
[QUOTE=Chernarus;37876090]Its a massive shame that its unlikely much will come out of it, considering it will probably be less popular then the Mac version.. and the Mac version does not have any AAA other then Black Ops and Source games.[/QUOTE]
Where did you get this information?
Crystal ball or Tarot cards?
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