I dunno, it's just so mysterious and the fact that it's considered "forbidden" makes it even more fascinating.
Note, that I don't want to start a religious debate here, I'm just writing about my side of the coin.
So what is Satanism? When most people hear the word Satanist, they think about a person, who worships Satan. Though most Satanists have nothing to do with worshipping satan, because they see it as reversive christianity and usually as a cover for criminal acts.
So people usually mistake Satanism for Theistic Satanism, where Satan is seen as a god or as a higher power.
Satanism in itself relies greatly on Hedonism, which means beliefs that pleasure is the only intrinsic good.
Though Satan and Satanism walk hand in hand, Satanists don't believe in supernatural forces or in God, nor Satan. Satanist himself is his own god. Satan symbolizes a person who lives according to his carnal nature. The truth behind Satan is simply a dark evolutionary power of entropy, that spreads all around nature and creates the survival and reproductive spent, that are natural for every living being. Satan isn't a councious entity that should be worshipped, more of a powersource that lies inside every being, that you can use. Therefore sacrifises, in every form, are rejected as christian aberration, because in Satanism, there is no deity to whom nothing could be sacrificed.
So a satanist himself could be Satan.
What does Satan represent? Well here are the "Nine Satanic Statements" straight from the Satanic Bible.
[quote]1. Satan represents indulgence, instead of abstinence.
2. Satan represents vital existense, instead of spiritual pipe dreams.
3. Satan represents undefiled wisdom, instead of hypocritical self-deceit.
4. Satan represents kindness to those who deserve it, instead of love wasted on ingrates.
5. Satan represents vengeance, instead of turning the other cheek.
6. Satan represents responsibility to the responsible, instead of concern for psychic vampires.
7. Satan represents man as just another animal, sometimes better, more often worse than those that walk on all-fours, who, because of his "divine spiritual and intellectual developement," has become the most vicious animal of all.
8. Satan represents all of the so-called sins, as they all lead to physical, mental or emotional gratification.
9. Satan has been the best friend the church has ever had, as he has kept it in business all these years.[/quote]
To me, those sound rather rational and true in most parts.
There are also "The Eleven Satanic Rules of the Earth", also from the Satanic Bible, that is basically a guide for social intercourse.
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1. Do not share your opinions or advice if you're not asked to give them.
2. Do not tell your concerns to others if you're not sure that they want to hear about them.
3. When being in an other mans dwelling, show them respect or don't go there.
4. If a guest in your dwelling irritates you, treat him ruthlessly and mercilessly.
5. Do not make a sexual approach if you don't get a mating call.
6. Do not take something that is not yours, unless it's someones burden that he wants to be freed from.
7. Confess the power of magic if you have used it to gain something you craved for. If you deny the power of magic when you have succesfully called it, you will lose everything you have gained.
8. Do not complain about anything that doesn't have to be your concern.
9. Do not harm children.
10. Do not kill non-human animals if not being attacked by one or in need of nourishment.
11. When moving on neutral ground, do not disturb anyone. If someone disturbs you, tell them to stop. If they don't stop, destroy them.[/quote]
I myself have been living to those rules most of my life, even before I had looked deeper into the world of satanism. So I've been living as a satanist for years without me knowing it.
I don't see it as a bad thing, because if you look at the rules, some of them are basic common sense.
If we put those rules and the Ten Tenants side by side, I can refer myself way better to the Satanic rules, because I can see myself living according to them without actually thinking about them.
I also like that fact that Satanism is more about doing something about a problem, whereas Christianity is more of asking for god to do something about a problem.
Anton Szandor LaVey gave a face for Satanism. He is the person who created the Church Of Satan and wrote the Satanic Bible.
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He doesn't look so harmful.
[B]Note to confused people:[/B]
Satanism is more of a filosophy about individuality, self preservation and being your own god.
Lesser Magic is a system of manipulation that incorporates one or more of three main psychological themes: sex, sentiment, and wonder.
Greater Magic involves ritual and ceremony in order to focus one's emotional energy for a specific purpose.
[quote=HumanAbyss]It doesn't require, or even want you to be cruel, evil, mean, or any sort of spiteful unless that's what you need to do to become strong. Undeserved hate, and undeserved action is looked down upon inside real Levayen Satanism and as such, is held to be against the ideal. Self empowerment is key, and part of that is being Just and right. Not being cruel and unusual.
For refrence, Levayan Satanism is the only form that is currently relevant. It is an atheistic, self empowerment philosophy. No magic, no gods, nothing supernatural is relevant at all. It entirely relies on self love, and self empowerment. It is entirely about self strength. Nothing else.[/quote]
Some of you might unknowingly be a satanist already.
It is supposed to fascinate people, that's why people join. You shouldn't get involved with that kind of this though, it might not be true but still it's unhealthy.
[QUOTE=spengbob;20319756]It is supposed to fascinate people, that's why people join. You shouldn't get involved with that kind of this though, it might not be true but still it's unhealthy.[/QUOTE]
You don't have to join a religious party just to prove that you believe in something.
People just join it to get attention or to feel evil. One in the same, really.
At one time long ago satanism was just a blown up word for intelligent people. It sucks, because now it actually refers to something.
Thats not a bad code to live by, a bit blunt but.
I don't really find any religions neccesary. I can figure out morals my self.
Interesting, most people hear the word "Satan" and think of hell, sin, and other undesirable things. Satanism also seems to be founded upon a logical belief system which is refreshing to hear in modern times, what with all the stories about churches outcasting anyone that does not follow their interpretation of the bible by the letter.
Or I could go my own way and not hang out with a bunch of goth toolbags.
[QUOTE=Mingebox;20319810]Or I could go my own way and not hang out with a bunch of goth toolbags.[/QUOTE]
You could also go your own way and not quote the whole OP.
This is why religion sucks.
People even making their life being run by the devil.
Geez, will there be even more deities?
Modern day Satanism is an overblown way of saying healthy self interest.
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[QUOTE=Hoboharry;20319839]This is why religion sucks.
People even making their life being run by the devil.
Geez, will there be even more deities?[/QUOTE]
You didn't read OP, or don't understand what Satanism is. There is no god, no satan in satanism. It's a philosophy of self empowerment.
I dated a satanist before. She made the whole thing sound pretty chill.
So why do people associate the sacrifice of animals with satanism if they're not allowed to kill animals unless being attacked by said animal.
There is no god nor is there satan but their belief says so.
[QUOTE=Hullu V3;20319824]You could also go your own way and not quote the whole OP.[/QUOTE]
You can do all those things without joining some relgion who's primary purpose is to troll Christians.
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7. Confess the power of magic if you have used it to gain something you craved for. If you deny the power of magic when you have succesfully called it, you will lose everything you have gained.
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And what is this "power of magic" shit?
[QUOTE=Hoboharry;20319839]This is why religion sucks.
People even making their life being run by the devil.
Geez, will there be even more deities?[/QUOTE]
You're either talking about Theistic Satanism or didn't read the OP.
[quote=MingeBox]
You can do all those things without joining some relgion who's primary purpose is to troll Christians.
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7. Confess the power of magic if you have used it to gain something you craved for. If you deny the power of magic when you have succesfully called it, you will lose everything you have gained.
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And what is this "power of magic" shit.
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It's not trolling christianity in any way. Where did you get that from?
Satanism has it's own share of mysticism too, like christians have God, holy grail, The ark of the covenant etc.
It's just a part of it.
[img]http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/A/c/pope_melgibson.jpg[/img]
"I used to be 30% insane, now I am just 20% insane."
[QUOTE=Eluveitie;20319863]So why do people associate the sacrifice of animals with satanism if they're not allowed to kill animals unless being attacked by said animal.[/QUOTE]
That's what you get when your name your relgion after Satan. If you're a Hamburglarist, you better not complain when people ask why you aren't dressing up in black and white stripes and stealing McBurgers.
[QUOTE=Eluveitie;20319863]So why do people associate the sacrifice of animals with satanism if they're not allowed to kill animals unless being attacked by said animal.[/QUOTE]
Theistic Satanism.
[quote=Hoboharry]There is no god nor is there satan but their belief says so.[/quote]
Where did you read that? At any point I didn't state that Satan didn't exist. It does exist in satanism, but not as a god, or a higher power.
There's this guy on a Red Orchestra server I go to
Every time he's there, he keeps babbling on about how Christians are dumbasses and how he's great for being a satanist.
Since that individual was a dumbfuck, I'm labeling all satanists the same.
This is as fucking stupid as Christianity.
[QUOTE=GunsNRoses;20320021]This is as fucking stupid as Christianity.[/QUOTE]
Don't start it.
I can see the best benefit in all this is being you yourself is in control
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7. Confess the power of magic if you have used it to gain something you craved for. If you deny the power of magic when you have successfully called it, you will lose everything you have gained.
[/quote]
OOOoooo Magic
[QUOTE=Hullu V3;20319872]
Satanism has it's own share of mysticism too, like christians have God, holy grail, The ark of the covenant etc.
It's just a part of it.[/QUOTE]
oh uh ok
[quote]5. Do not make a sexual approach if you don't get a mating call.[/quote]
I lol'd.
[QUOTE=Ibutsu;20320114]I lol'd.[/QUOTE]
Whats to laugh about? We're still animals. Our females DO send mating signals.
Satanism is too often confused with Anti-Christianity. Two completely different things.
You can imagine the fat fucks that try to get attention by pretending to be Satanist.
[quote]11. When moving on neutral ground, do not disturb anyone. If someone disturbs you, tell them to stop. If they don't stop, destroy them.[/quote]
This shit is Hilarious.
[QUOTE=Ibutsu;20320114]I lol'd.[/QUOTE]
it's the same thing as saying 'don't whip it out unless she wants it'
[QUOTE=GunsNRoses;20320138]You can imagine the fat fucks that try to get attention by trying to be Satanist.[/QUOTE]
People who go around town with "Satanist" tattooed on their foreheads are attention whores. Most satanists keep it to themselves, because it's a thing that mainly concerns you, not the people around you.
[quote=GunsNroses]This shit is Hilarious.[/quote]
How come? If someone was trying to get under your skin and harm you, you would just take it all in? It's implying to self defence mainly. There's nothing hilarious about that.
[QUOTE=Triumph Forks;20320139]it's the same thing as saying 'don't whip it out unless she wants it'[/QUOTE]
I know, it's just how it's phrased.
[QUOTE=Hullu V3;20320168]People who go around town with "Satanist" tattooed on their foreheads are attention whores. Most satanists keep it to themselves, because it's a thing that mainly concerns you, not the people around you.[/QUOTE]
But i need to know if they are Satanist or not, so i make sure i only Disturb non satanists on neutral ground so i don't get destroyed. :downs:
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