I have come to the conclusion that simplified interfaces on everything are largely responsible for youth being [url=http://www.myspace.com/]fucking[/url] [url=http://www.twitter.com/]stupid[/url] [url=http://www.youtube.com/]idiots.[/url] Seriously. People are so used to having everything done for them by oversimplified interface that when someone does something the traditional way, confusion ensues.
There was a group of failures at my school who were shocked beyond belief when they discovered the address bar in Internet Explorer, and later the same group was chattering about how "Windowses" (PCs, I think) couldn't play games like the Xbox because when they tried to put their xbox games in the "Windows" disc drive it didn't work. To them, this meant that Windowses sucked in comparison to Xboxes and they asked me why the disc drive was there if games didn't work in it.
My technology teacher was amazed when I used the task manager to end a task that was slowing down the computer. She was determined that the only way to fix it was to unplug the computer and call technicians down to repair the issue, and when I showed her the task manager she didn't believe it at first and made me show it to her again.
Millions of other examples of this are found all over the world, and it can all be attributed to simplified interfaces. The fact that people are introduced to technology whose most important features are controlled by simple pictures and colorful graphics is dumbing people down to a point that makes me wonder how long humanity is going to last before it dumbs itself to death. Humans are supposed to be the master species of Earth and yet we've got these stupid little twits who somehow manage to get killed by housecats? :wtc:
I'm not even sure how to organize my thoughts on this. There's so much to say and so little ways to present it rationally. It's infuriating. But I'm sure Facepunch knows what I mean, right?
I want you guys to try to notify as many people of this danger as you can. Teach people how to use more complex aspects of technology, and explain the reasoning behind it to them. Get other people in on it. Maybe we can't completely change the inevitable, but we can sure as hell slow it down if we try. Seriously, guys. This is the future of humanity we're looking at, here. Look at the big picture. Even if this is mostly incoherent, you no doubt know what I'm talking about - so don't act like you're :downs: and don't understand. Please, guys. Take this seriously.
why do things the hard way when you can do it the easy way
[QUOTE=bobste;18558545]why do things the hard way when you can do it the easy way[/QUOTE]
because you have an erection
[QUOTE=bobste;18558545]why do things the hard way when you can do it the easy way[/QUOTE]
Because you'll end up being a dumbass
I disagree.
Simplified is not bad, you just like looking at hard core websites that have a bright green and black color scheme.
People are stupid in general.
Feel lucky you are one off the smart ones.
[QUOTE=Madman_Andre;18558579]People are stupid in general.
Feel lucky you are one off the smart ones.[/QUOTE]
People are stupid because people are allowed to bask in a society that encourages stupidity for convenience.
[QUOTE=teh pirate;18558534]:words:[/quote]
So more people come to your website, to make more money, to pay for your website, to make more money, to pay your bills and taxes and for food and for shelter and for...
Must I say more?
[QUOTE=Madman_Andre;18558579]People are stupid in general.
Feel lucky you are one [I]off[/I] the smart ones.[/QUOTE]
Oh dear.
[QUOTE=gamefreek76;18558602]So more people come to your website, to make more money, to pay for your website, to make more money, to pay your bills and taxes and for food and for shelter and for...
Must I say more?[/QUOTE]
Is it worth the price of average human intelligence?
I bet you anything Apple knows their idiot fanbase and their exploiting it to the best of their ability.
Not to be a windows fanboy or anything, every OS is different but I mean come on...
[QUOTE=faolco1;18558633]I bet you anything Apple knows their idiot fanbase and their exploiting it to the best of their ability.
Not to be a windows fanboy or anything, every OS is different but I mean come on...[/QUOTE]
Don't act like Microsoft isn't doing it, too.
[QUOTE=teh pirate;18558622]Is it worth the price of average human intelligence?[/QUOTE]
Yes. Refer to my avatar.
[QUOTE=bobste;18558545]why do things the hard way when you can do it the easy way[/QUOTE]
why do homework when you can do nothing
why go to school when you can play games
why work when you can be a prostitute
It works for about a week before you realise you just fucked up.
[QUOTE=gamefreek76;18558667]Yes. Refer to my avatar.[/QUOTE]
[img]http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m125/snoopdizzle1/well-fuck-your-shit.jpg[/img]
But seriously, you can't ignore how stupid humanity is as a whole. It's depressing.
[QUOTE=teh pirate;18558568]Because you'll end up being a dumbass[/QUOTE]
facepunch and nearly every (good) website has a simplified interface
so by your logic, because you are using it you are a dumbass
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[QUOTE=teh pirate;18558680]
But seriously, you can't ignore how stupid humanity is as a whole. It's depressing.[/QUOTE]
people like you are depressing
[QUOTE=teh pirate;18558680]
But seriously, you can't ignore how stupid humanity is as a whole. It's depressing.[/QUOTE]
Ignorance is bliss. Get off your high horse.
[QUOTE=bobste;18558682]facepunch and nearly every (good) website has a simplified interface
so by your logic, because you are using it you are a dumbass[/QUOTE]
That's because Facepunch is a forum with a clean interface. But it still uses words. Icons haven't replaced practically every major control face.
A simplified interface isn't that bad. An [U]over[/U]simplified interface is the problem at hand.
[quote=gamefreek76]Ignorance is bliss. Get off your high horse.[/quote]
Ignorance is bliss until you wake up and realize that the world's gone to hell while you were pretending everything was just fine and dandy.
[QUOTE=teh pirate;18558708]
A simplified interface isn't that bad. An [U]over[/U]simplified interface is the problem at hand.[/QUOTE]
People are too busy being lazy. They don't have time for anything less simple!
So your theory is that simplistic interfaces cause people to become stupid.
I don't quite think there is a correlation, and even if you can find one, you do have to understand that correlation does not equal causation.
Your argument also seems to lose focus. You are trying to link minimalistic GUI's causes people to not understand why their Xbox games won't work on their computer. There is no connection.
I do feel, however, that today's youths are being handed everything and are not taught to think for themselves. Modern school systems seem to be designed to turn people into drones in order to fit into society. The fact of the matter is that society as a whole are a bunch of ignorant masses. The lack of critical thinking leads to the "dumnation" of the media. This is why you have news corporations not reporting news. You have them reporting shit about celebrities and fluffy dogs and shit, and then when they go about reporting actual important issues like global warming or the current war situation, they spin it to get people to believe what they want. Because people are not taught to think for themselves, they believe the news as 100 percent factual information, causing further ignorance and stupidity. It's a vicious cycle that will unfortunately never be broken until the moment we can interface are brains with computers and download the ability to think logically and critically. Even then... who knows.
Thread reminded me of:
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BnLbv6QYcA[/media]
People are good at some things and aren't at others. You say people are stupid idiots for not knowing things about computers.
I could come back at you with that same argument by saying you are a stupid idiot by not knowing how to jump start an engine, or change a tire, or change a broken tail light, or not having a girlfriend, or not being able to manage your time, bad social skills, etc.
[QUOTE=Master117;18558732]I do feel, however, that today's youths are being handed everything and are not taught to think for themselves. Modern school systems seem to be designed to turn people into drones in order to fit into society.[/QUOTE]
Which is achieved through oversimplifying of everything.
Interface is an example.
I'm not going to bother going into detail on every little thing that's being stupidly oversimplified because frankly I'm busy at the time of writing this.
I actually like the good feeling when my IT teacher admits he doesn't know much about computers as I do. For instance one time I was asking him if I could have help fixing an old laptop, and when I explained that I created a Windows 2000 SE boot disk that would allow me to partition and format the hard drive through MS-DOS he kinda said he wasn't the best person to ask for help.
On the bright side just feel happy for yourself that you know more than the average person about how technology around us works. This is a very good advantage when working within the IT field. But even then don't beat yourself up or angry at these people since they don't know as much as you do in this one specific area.
[QUOTE=teh pirate;18558708]That's because Facepunch is a forum with a clean interface. But it still uses words. Icons haven't replaced practically every major control face.
A simplified interface isn't that bad. An [U]over[/U]simplified interface is the problem at hand.
Ignorance is bliss until you wake up and realize that the world's gone to hell while you were pretending everything was just fine and dandy.[/QUOTE]
you're 13 aren't you
if your theory was practical
you wouldn't be using any OS because that is oversimplified
you'd be typing shit in binary code
[QUOTE=bobste;18558783]you're 13 aren't you
if your theory was practical
you wouldn't be using any OS because that is oversimplified
you'd be typing shit in binary code[/QUOTE]
That's an incredibly stupid argument
My stance might be stupid too but god damn
I don't have a problem with progression but this oversimplification will result in backpedaling
[QUOTE=teh pirate;18558814]That's an incredibly stupid argument
My stance might be stupid too but god damn
I don't have a problem with progression but this oversimplification will result in backpedaling[/QUOTE]
Have a box. :)
I've always wondered what it was like back in the day when you ran all your machines from command lines. Were people smarter?
[QUOTE=teh pirate;18558814]That's an incredibly stupid argument
My stance might be stupid too but god damn
I don't have a problem with progression but this oversimplification will result in backpedaling[/QUOTE]
explain to me how it is a stupid argument while my computer runs on this oversimplified OS and me typing on this oversimplified keyboard (it has letters, numbers and symbols!!)
[QUOTE=bobste;18558844]explain to me how it is a stupid argument while my computer runs on this oversimplified OS and me typing on this oversimplified keyboard (it has letters, numbers and symbols!!)[/QUOTE]
There's a difference between simple and too simple and you're missing it
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