[QUOTE]US President Donald Trump is seeking to boost defence spending by $54bn (£43bn) in his proposed budget plan for 2018, which is about a 9% increase.
[B]The blueprint also calls for deep cuts elsewhere, including to foreign assistance and environmental budgets.
[/B][I]But Mr Trump's plan leaves large welfare programmes such as Social Security and Medicare untouched, despite Republican calls for reform.[/I]
The president is expected to release his final budget proposal in mid-March.
"We're going to do more with less and make the government lean and accountable," Mr Trump said in a meeting with governors at the White House on Monday.
The president, who vowed to increase military spending and preserve welfare programmes during his campaign, said the budget will focus on "military, safety, economic development".
"It will include an historic increase in defence spending to rebuild the depleted military of the United States of America at a time we most need it," he said.
The US spends more on defence than any other country at roughly $600bn (£481bn) annually.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-39108194[/url]
Just like North Korea, let the populace starve while the military gets banquets.
[editline]27th February 2017[/editline]
This is a hyperbole before anyone freaks out.
I guess at least he is doing what he promised to do.
That aside, not surprising in the least. Aren't the Republicans all about the military? That's at least the impression I've gotten: always the Republicans that're calling for increased military spending whenever I news pop up about it.
[QUOTE]"It will include an historic increase in defence spending to rebuild the depleted military of the United States of America at a time we most need it," he said.[/QUOTE]
What? Depleted? It's not fucking depleted, the US could still steam roll practically every other country.
Absolutely fucking disgusting.
Why, its already massive as fuck as it is. Hopefully Mattis, et. al. [del]talk[/del] smack some sense into him.
[QUOTE]"We're going to do more with less"[/QUOTE]
fucking what, no, you are doing [U]more[/U] with [U]more
[/U]you could even say he is doing [U]less[/U] with more because he is cutting foreign assistance
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;51882161]Absolutely fucking disgusting.[/QUOTE]
No kidding.
USAID programs get gutted and the military gets ramped up because almost two decades of sticking that wangdangdoodle into the hornet's nest that is the Middle East wasn't enough.
I guess the only way he can really spin this is job creation.
Though I am mystified how he plans to fight off the Republican party line by keeping welfare plans unscathed.
how many hospitals, schools, houses, parks, etc
[quote][I]But Mr Trump's plan leaves large welfare programmes such as Social Security and Medicare untouched, despite Republican calls for reform.[/I][/quote]
Thank God, at least there's a tiny sliver of a silver lining to this fucking travesty.
How about them apples huh? say America will be first, don't do anything to create new jobs, boost military spending, threaten to go to war, ban Muslims (and not even do that properly, since no ban from fucking Saudi Arabia), and outlay even more money on making more and more nukes.
How in the hell do you justify this, [i]like at all?[/i]
I don't see how anyone can have the idea that our military is weak?
[quote]"It will include an historic increase in defence spending to rebuild the depleted military of the United States of America at a time we most need it," [/quote]
Unless I've been living under a rock, we still have one of the strongest militaries in the world right?
Don't countries only typically increase their military spending in preparation for war? There's really no need for this in relative peacetime for the States, is there?
What would they be spending the money on?
I'm also extremely worried about the fact he'll be taking away from the environmental budget. Really shows that the world needs a new leader in green policies to mitigate the effects of climate change and encourage countries around to world to actually tackle it - considering the US is dropping the ball off a bloody cliff.
[quote]US President Donald Trump is seeking to boost defence spending by $54bn (£43bn) in his proposed budget plan for 2018, which is about a 9% increase.[/quote]
More relevant now than ever...
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This "depleted military" nonsense is ridiculous and I honestly don't know how any republican can say that with a straight face when they spend over 500 billion on the military.
Yeah, this is what I expected. Some more of that "fiscal conservatism" the republicans are fond of.
Let's raise spending in some areas, leave other big ones untouched, and lower taxes at the same time because.
wait what do you mean you can't just grow the debt forever? That in a time of growth we might want to pay some of it down or at least reduce the deficit? whaaaaa
[QUOTE=Zonesylvania;51882184]How about them apples huh? say America will be first, don't do anything to create new jobs, boost military spending, threaten to go to war, ban Muslims (and not even do that properly, since no ban from fucking Saudi Arabia), and outlay even more money on making more and more nukes.
How in the hell do you justify this, [i]like at all?[/i][/QUOTE]
I dunno. Between his posturing with China and Mexico, his general lack of concern for the lives of soldiers, his insistence on persecuting Muslims, and Bannon at the reins, I've got a bad feeling.
To quote Spider Jerusalem, this is the start of something really fucking disgusting.
[QUOTE=Ricenchicken;51882199]I don't see how anyone can have the idea that our military is weak?
Unless I've been living under a rock, we still have one of the strongest militaries in the world right?[/QUOTE]
More importantly, who in the global community is running around screaming "fite me irl"? for this kind of spending to be justified?
I mean, it's not even like your MIC has opened up new markets to sell to - a lot of countries who aren't directly US allies are very cognizant of the fact that should they get into a war with a country the US [I]does[/I] consider an ally, you can guarantee the US will want the ally to win and will go so far as to deny parts or assistance. As a result, the only markets that trust you are existing allies, which are a captive market because they already own enough US defense equipment to be dependent on you.
You've just cut foreign assistance, which means that the same people who could win hearts and minds on the ground, in places they've bombed to smithereens, is now out.
I just don't get it - on the one hand, you have increased spending for bullshit like this and then nobody at the Pentagon bats a fucking eye with billions of funding goes "missing" and then we discover, a few years later and countless deaths, that the CIA was given a nice little slush fund through "secret sources" to destabilize some small country for a tiny little sliver of global hegemony.
At this point, it's like trying to hold water in a colander.
What sort of logic is going on here?
Isolation and pulling out from nato and investing more into the military.
So you isolate, and you pull the army back from around the world. Now you have the army at home and it's all consolidated and big...
But then you invest more into it even though all the scraps and elements have been recalled?
Is this a sign that the nato pullout threat is just a bluff?
[QUOTE=RenegadeCop;51882254]Obviously the military will be used to delcare marshall law across the entire u.s., finally affirming Trump and the Emperor.[/QUOTE]
He protects and serves all of Mankind, citizen, take not His holy word in vain lest the force of His displeasure fall on you. :vs:
[QUOTE=Lolkork;51882263][IMG]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/timeline/a23e5b6addb1aef15321a71824880cd4.png[/IMG]
Top five countries by military expenditure in 2015.
[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditures[/URL]
why? Lobbyists?[/QUOTE]
GDP might be a better indication.
In which case the United States is still top 3 with about 3.3 % spent (not sure how much this budget increase will cause it to rise) but other countries like Oman spend 16.4% of their GDP on their military.
Still not defending this however. It's still fucking nutty that they spend this much money on the military.
Of course republicans support more military spending. They own the companies that the money is spent with!
More military spending means more capitalist pockets lined by taxpayer dollars. And then they talk about it being a "welfare state". Yeah, sure, corporate welfare through the military industrial complex, absolutely, I'll give you that.
[QUOTE=Lolkork;51882263][IMG]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/timeline/a23e5b6addb1aef15321a71824880cd4.png[/IMG]
Top five countries by military expenditure in 2015.
[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditures[/URL]
why? Lobbyists?[/QUOTE]
Republicans are terrified shitless of everything so they have to invest ridiculous amounts of our collective societal capital into big scary wasteful bullshit that helps nobody to make up for their psychological micropenis.
Why build a massive wall when simply ramping up enforcement would better suit the end goal of getting illegal immigrants out of America? Because hurrdurr it's big and impressive and apparently intuitive enough for my pea brain to understand it.
Why buy giant gas-guzzling piece of shit trucks that will cost me hundreds of dollars on fuel I could've saved and the tune it to blow black smoke out the tailpipe, and then complain about taxes?
Why invest even MORE into the most expensive military on earth? Because I'm small tiny and scared inside and I need to feel big or else the demons will come and get me.
Fucking pathetic lot.
So we're going to cut funding to nato and our allies in europe, but also increase our spending by 50 billion.
Where the fuck is this money going?
totally the budget an out of touch gazillion dollar administration would make. fuck the poor buy more guns
And meanwhile, Veteran's Affairs continues to be run into the ground.
I find it kind of sad that U.S. enlisted get paid quite a decent sum less in salary than their counterparts in other Western countries, and the moment they leave they're basically given the middle finger.
All this is, is a gift to the military industrial complex. Not to soldiers.
[QUOTE=chunkymonkey;51882215]This "depleted military" nonsense is ridiculous and I honestly don't know how any republican can say that with a straight face when they spend over 500 billion on the military.[/QUOTE]
nobody ever challenges it. hillary let him walk away with that in the debates
[QUOTE=1239the;51882315]And meanwhile, Veteran's Affairs continues to be run into the ground.
I find it kind of sad that U.S. enlisted get paid quite a decent sum less in salary than their counterparts in other Western countries, and the moment they leave they're basically given the middle finger.
All this is, is a gift to the military industrial complex. Not to soldiers.[/QUOTE]
That's what makes me feel saddest of all tbh, you give so many years of service to your country at the risk of your own life, then retire, if you're lucky, with all four limbs on your body and no permanent damage, but what the fuck do you get out of it? A healthcare system so fucked up it kills more people than it cures, and so underfunded it's literally running on a prayer.
It's pathetic how American soldiers get tossed aside like trash after such loyal service.
America already has the biggest military budget on the planet, what the fuck does Trump think he's going to get for an extra $54 billion?
[QUOTE=Thomo_UK;51882349]America already has the biggest military budget on the planet, what the fuck does Trump think he's going to get for an extra $54 billion?[/QUOTE]
I think the idiot might be made to divert funding to railgun or laser research lmao, or else some of that money is going to go into intelligence slush funds
Jeez, that's a little much don't you think?
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