Police Use Stun Gun to Break Window During Traffic Stop
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[QUOTE]A northwest Indiana police department is facing a federal lawsuit after a family claimed an officer used excessive force on them during a dramatic traffic stop captured via cell phone video.
According to the lawsuit, officers pulled them over in a "highly aggressive" manner, placing spike strips in front of the car and asking for both Mahone's driver's license, as well as Jones' identification.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]The video shows the officers breaking the car's passenger window, spraying glass into the vehicle, and pulling Jones out of the car to arrest him. Officers also appear to use a stun gun on Jones while he is in view of the car. Mahone's 7-year-old daughter can be heard crying in the background.[/QUOTE]
sources: [url]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/07/hammond-indiana-excessive-force_n_5945808.html?cps=gravity[/url]
[url]http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/tasered-passenger-my-civil-rights-were-just-thrown-out-window-n219916[/url]
I don't think he used the stun gun to break the window.
EDIT: Yeah, it looks like a halligan tool.
At first I thought they shot the window with the taser and it broke the window like that.
Going to take the video with a grain of salt, something just does not feel right. It seems like something had happened before the video, and they were not listening to the orders of the Police.
Also listening to the video, "IM SCARED CAUSE HE PULLED A GUN ON ME!" yeah... Something speaks mountains of bullshit in this case.
"teh doctor just called meh and axed me to go the hospital, my mother is about to pass away"
.. sure
"first they pull out a gun when he goes digging in his bag"
.. Yea, no shit. Who knows whats in that bag.
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Seriously, how hard is it to give your information to the officer. Hes giving a lawful order, you must comply. The taser didnt break the window, his tool did. Then they tased him in the back.
[editline]7th October 2014[/editline]
[quote] asking for both Mahone's driver's license, as well as Jones' identification.[/quote]
How is this aggressive? Its standard procedure, and given the context, a lawful order to give.
[quote]The officer did not break the window and remove Jones until some 13 minutes after the traffic stop began.[/quote]
Wow let's all jump to conclusions before there's actually a formal investigation as to why Jamal refused to step out of his car for 13 minutes, and how did Lisa end up in the back seat if she was driving? Also I've heard better excuses than, "I'm not leaving my car because I'm afraid of the police hurting me." Not complying with an officers request is the most flat out stupid thing you can do, especially a request as reasonable as that one.
Seems like they attempted some sovereign citizen-wannabe, non-compliant, 'I don't consent' bullshit.
[QUOTE=Apache249;46178971]Seems like they attempted some sovereign citizen-wannabe, non-compliant, 'I don't consent' bullshit.[/QUOTE]
I don't think so necessarily, he just didn't have any ID on him. The lady might've made it more trouble by not getting out, but I dunno.
Oh Hammond, never change
[QUOTE=PonceDeLeon;46178991]I don't think so necessarily, he just didn't have any ID on him. The lady might've made it more trouble by not getting out, but I dunno.[/QUOTE]
If you don't have ID on you, then you should be [I]more[/I] compliant.
How is the officer to know if you're an upstanding citizen, or felon with several warrants for your arrest? They don't, so for their safety, and the safety of those around, it's reasonable to assume that the situation could escalate.
ayy my state
the thing is if they were within their rights to be assholes they shouldn't have cops pulling them out of a window that they broke.
maybe there is more back-story to this or context needed, but it just seems like the cop was being unprofessional and power-trippy. I just don't see what could of happened to make busting down a window with a toddler in the back-seat the okay-course of action, but of course there could have been and it's just not shown.
"The police told me to get out of my vehicle; when I said no they removed me from my vehicle!"
The lawsuit won't go through.
[QUOTE=BANNED USER;46178913]Wow let's all jump to conclusions before there's actually a formal investigation as to why Jamal refused to step out of his car for 13 minutes, and how did Lisa end up in the back seat if she was driving? Also I've heard better excuses than, "I'm not leaving my car because I'm afraid of the police hurting me." Not complying with an officers request is the most flat out stupid thing you can do, especially a request as reasonable as that one.[/QUOTE]
The son was recording and Lisa was in the driver's seat
[QUOTE=Funion;46179309]The son was recording and Lisa was in the driver's seat[/QUOTE]
I knew the son was recording but it looked like she made it to the back in my mind. I rewatched it and I saw her curly hair in the rear view so you're right that she was still in the drivers seat. Still, No ID and non compliant, do not pass go, do not collect $200.
[QUOTE=Code3Response;46178850]"teh doctor just called meh and axed me to go the hospital, my mother is about to pass away"
.. sure
"first they pull out a gun when he goes digging in his bag"
.. Yea, no shit. Who knows whats in that bag.
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Seriously, how hard is it to give your information to the officer. Hes giving a lawful order, you must comply. The taser didnt break the window, his tool did. Then they tased him in the back.
[editline]7th October 2014[/editline]
How is this aggressive? Its standard procedure, and given the context, a lawful order to give.[/QUOTE]
you don't tase someone for refusing to get out of the car. In fact you shouldn't use a taser unless it's absolutely necessary and in this case it is not. So therefore it counts as being aggressive, it wouldn't have been if he was physically resisting.
[QUOTE=confinedUser;46180126]you don't tase someone for refusing to get out of the car. In fact you shouldn't use a taser unless it's absolutely necessary and in this case it is not. So therefore it counts as being aggressive, it wouldn't have been if he was physically resisting.[/QUOTE]
he doesn't have to be aggressively resisting for an officer to pull out his taser, he only has to be actively resisting.
[editline]8th October 2014[/editline]
and don't say "he should have used oc" because that would have been a stupid move if he used oc in an enclosed space like a car with more than just the subject in the car.
[QUOTE=BANNED USER;46179652]I knew the son was recording but it looked like she made it to the back in my mind. I rewatched it and I saw her curly hair in the rear view so you're right that she was still in the drivers seat. Still, No ID and non compliant, do not pass go, do not collect $200.[/QUOTE]
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