[video=youtube;5MC2X-LRbkE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MC2X-LRbkE&t=4s[/video]
Simon Sinek speaking about Millennials in the workplace of today.
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damn i was late
"We have no age restrictions on social media or smartphones"
Well that's a load of bullshit
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Actually the whole thing is bullshit, wow. "Access to an addictive chemical called dopamine through social media", yeah, and so does everyone else in that audience by simply laughing at your shitty jokes. Good job.
Funfact: Any US Based internet infrastructure that gathers any personal information, email address included, MUST turn away anyone under the age of 13 until their parents submit a notarized permission slip and statement of understanding to the site's registered operator. US COPPA - Federal Law. That's why so many websites have that clause.
I thought the millennial age bracket ended at 1995, pretty sure the guy speaking could be one
[QUOTE=doctordarken;51621839]I thought the millennial age bracket ended at 1995, pretty sure the guy speaking could be one[/QUOTE]
its 1982 to 2001
[QUOTE=Blind Weasel;51621971]its 1982 to 2001[/QUOTE]
That's fucking twenty years, and a shit timescale for a generation.
That's a timescale where the people in the same generation born in the early 80s will be saying things like "Ha! You kids had it easy. Back when I was younger we had dial-up!" to those born 1995 and on who haven't experienced the world without internet or personal computers.
Doesn't help the image that generations are shit.
I thought the definition of Millennial was anyone who reached adulthood between 2000 and 2010.
[QUOTE=Tuskin;51622027]I thought the definition of Millennial was anyone who reached adulthood between 2000 and 2010.[/QUOTE]
Now this definition would make more sense. But I would still rather go with generations being 5 year intervals, as 5 years can be more accurate.
[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennials[/url]
Wikipedia says
"There are no precise dates for when this cohort starts or ends; demographers and researchers typically use the early 1980s as starting birth years and ending birth years ranging from the mid-1990s to early 2000s."
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reading further down, the meaning has changed over the years.
Tbh changing attitudes towards smart phone usage is a millenial concern. I knew a guy who had to fire several workers for being on tinder too much during work
I'm from '97 and my 30 year old buddy has a totally different mindset and upbringing (in a pop-cultural sense. I'd hardly say we share a generation.
this is the first generation that is going to have less in life in terms of earnings than their parents. it's just some stupid reductive reasoning ignoring the reality of work for people working in an economy that hasn't recovered since 2008, and hasn't seen rising wages in decades. it's not like the economic suffering isn't been felt cross-generationally either. this whole generation comparison thing has been going on since time immemorial, and it's especially funny when they use these basically meaningless terms like gen x and millenials like they actually mean much outside of age brackets.
such a weird vicarious way to view a whole slew of people, rather than actually looking at the impact of the quality of work that is available and the economic impact that has upon a person.
[QUOTE=Sonador;51621564]Funfact: Any US Based internet infrastructure that gathers any personal information, email address included, MUST turn away anyone under the age of 13 until their parents submit a notarized permission slip and statement of understanding to the site's registered operator. US COPPA - Federal Law. That's why so many websites have that clause.[/QUOTE]
The fact might be fun but it seems to do jack shit.
Being born in 94 makes me a millenial doesn't it? I just assume everyone in the 90s is
i was born in 99 what hte fucké am i
i'd like to say gen z because they're more conservative
I think the reason why the gap for finding millenials is so small is because of the impact of technology. Keep in mind that there was only a very small time frame between no such thing as the internet to "we just got DSL". Not to mention the incredible advances in other technologies for entertainment, specifically video games, TV, music, and film.
The period between 1985-1995 is on that fringe zone. I classify anybody born AFTER 1995 as a millenial, because by the time they were old enough to do things independently like seek out fun in their free time (around 2000), most middle class homes had at least DSL and a Playstation or computer with a handful of games.
The ones who grew up seeing it all evolve grow up with a bit of respect for technology. They weren't born into it, they got to see it change and advance. Quite rapidly, at that.
That's the main difference between "everybody else" and millenials. Millenials don't really have a perception of life without being constantly tethered to some kind of electronic device. Those born in the fringe zone do.
Now I don't know if I'm a millennial or not, oh well.
Born on a day in 98, being a Millennial ain't so great
[QUOTE=Coyoteze;51621512]"We have no age restrictions on social media or smartphones"
Well that's a load of bullshit
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[editline]editLIME[/editline]
Actually the whole thing is bullshit, wow. "Access to an addictive chemical called dopamine through social media", yeah, and so does everyone else in that audience by simply laughing at your shitty jokes. Good job.[/QUOTE]
Don't get caught up on that. You're taking him to literally. A lot of the stuff he is talking about is pretty true. I'm apart of this generation but I see a lot of the things he spoke about.
I'm not sure if its generational or not, but I have seen in six months of working for Cracker Barrel's warehouse more people come and go than we need to fully stock the department. nobody has a work ethic anymore. They come down here, work for a week or two, then fuck off again. Drives me up the wall.
Whats funny is I am, at least according to the video and wikipedia, a millenial. Am I the only one in this generation that isnt incapable of functioning in the workplace or are millenials just afraid of manual labor?
[QUOTE=Sonador;51621564]Funfact: Any US Based internet infrastructure that gathers any personal information, email address included, MUST turn away anyone under the age of 13 until their parents submit a notarized permission slip and statement of understanding to the site's registered operator. US COPPA - Federal Law. That's why so many websites have that clause.[/QUOTE]
And this is why polling age gated websites will make it seem like 95% of internet users are born on January 1st, and that many of them are over a hundred years old. :v:
Very interesting video. I'm not sure if I'd be classed as a millennial due to whats been stated above (born in 1990). I can honestly say I'm not addicted to my phone. Whenever I'm out with a friend or doing something social it is in my pocket 99.9% of the time and I only check it when I need to see what the time is.
The one thing that is constantly grinding at me is the thought of a way out of work (I work full time at the moment, have done for years). I probably just haven't found the right job but there is literally nothing that I can think of that would interest me and I just see it as a grind for the money so I can live.
It is quite annoying and I literally can't wait for the weekend to come round all the time.
I have a fair few quid banked but I don't know how or what I can do with it so I can quit work and live off of interest in say an investment or something.
[QUOTE=TestECull;51622542]I'm not sure if its generational or not, but I have seen in six months of working for Cracker Barrel's warehouse more people come and go than we need to fully stock the department. nobody has a work ethic anymore. They come down here, work for a week or two, then fuck off again. Drives me up the wall.
Whats funny is I am, at least according to the video and wikipedia, a millenial. Am I the only one in this generation that isnt incapable of functioning in the workplace or are millenials just afraid of manual labor?
And this is why polling age gated websites will make it seem like 95% of internet users are born on January 1st, and that many of them are over a hundred years old. :v:[/QUOTE]
This is the same mindset as the kids that say "man, I was born in the wrong generation" so yeah, you're a millennial.
[QUOTE=TestECull;51622542]I'm not sure if its generational or not, but I have seen in six months of working for Cracker Barrel's warehouse more people come and go than we need to fully stock the department. nobody has a work ethic anymore. They come down here, work for a week or two, then fuck off again. Drives me up the wall.
Whats funny is I am, at least according to the video and wikipedia, a millenial. Am I the only one in this generation that isnt incapable of functioning in the workplace or are millenials just afraid of manual labor?
And this is why polling age gated websites will make it seem like 95% of internet users are born on January 1st, and that many of them are over a hundred years old. :v:[/QUOTE]
Bad work ethic is universal. I've seen 40 year old's with worse work ethics than 20 somethings. Being from a specific generation or being a certain age doesn't mean jack shit about anything.
Generations is just a way for old decrepit fucks to quantify the fact that they're old and don't understand how young people operate.
[QUOTE=TestECull;51622542]FUCK THIS FUCKING GENEREATION, 60 70 80 YEARS WERE THE FUCKING BEST[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Coyoteze;51621512]"We have no age restrictions on social media or smartphones"
Well that's a load of bullshit
[t]http://i.imgur.com/FDbUxDw.png[/t]
[t]http://i.imgur.com/Zw7XEa8.png[/t]
[t]http://i.imgur.com/PVvle6g.png[/t]
[editline]editLIME[/editline]
Actually the whole thing is bullshit, wow. "Access to an addictive chemical called dopamine through social media", yeah, and so does everyone else in that audience by simply laughing at your shitty jokes. Good job.[/QUOTE]
Terms of service saying "you must be 13 years or older" are meaningless in comparison to the age restrictions we have in the physical world. A child can't buy tobacco/alcohol underage but they can create a social media account with zero effort. That's his point and I think it was pretty obvious.
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[QUOTE=TestECull;51622542]I'm not sure if its generational or not, but I have seen in six months of working for Cracker Barrel's warehouse more people come and go than we need to fully stock the department. nobody has a work ethic anymore. They come down here, work for a week or two, then fuck off again. Drives me up the wall.
Whats funny is I am, at least according to the video and wikipedia, a millenial. Am I the only one in this generation that isnt incapable of functioning in the workplace or are millenials just afraid of manual labor?[/QUOTE]
Lazy people have existed since the birth of civilization dude. Just because you weren't working at Cracker Barrel in the 80's doesn't mean people weren't still missing shifts and quitting jobs back then.
Work ethic is all over the place, but the reality is times are different now than they were 20, 30, and even 40 years ago. Most parents and parents of parents graduated high school, didn't go to college, and got a job at a factory or mill doing X task for 30 years of their life and getting great pay and a sweet pension to boot.
Nowadays, that's not how it works at all. Factory jobs don't exist. Unless you're working in oil fields or on rigs, manual labor pays fuck all and you are still worked to hell and back. You can't walk into one of the many now long gone local mom and pop shops and ask for a job and start working in 10 minutes. That just doesn't happen anymore. The only reason to go to college if you care about a career is if you want to be an engineer, lawyer, or doctor. But it's still a huge prerequisite for anything that would constitute as a livable wage.
The current era greatly favors a millenial kind of mentality. Technology. IT is huge and is constantly growing. Web dev is expanding at an exponential rate. Video game and other forms of digital entertainment are also on the rise. And all of these require at least some form of college education unless you know someone.
The real problem is in order to make a decent living in this day and age, you pretty much have to go to college. And college is expensive, and like I said, dumb. The only real way to make a living is by doing things like going into business for yourself. I think this is why things like content creation are so popular. You can make videos on youtube, gather a following, get decent money from ad revenue and even get people paying you monthly with services like patreon. It's a complete 180 from how things used to be, and that is where the primary disconnect is between millenials and everyone else.
Do you guys mean work ethic as in "the principle that hard work is intrinsically virtuous or worthy of reward."?
If so I think that's bullshit - hard work isn't a good thing in and of itself alone - you can't really judge it unless you know what it is that it is work towards, whether that is a worthwhile thing, etc. I hate to piss on any parades but an awful lot of jobs in the present day seem to be just work for the sake of work and inconsequential paper pushing.
[URL="https://libcom.org/library/phenomenon-bullshit-jobs-david-graeber"]This[/URL] essay on 'bullshit jobs' by LSE anthropologist David Graeber seems pretty apt to me
[QUOTE=JustExtreme;51623457]Do you guys mean work ethic as in "the principle that hard work is intrinsically virtuous or worthy of reward."?
If so I think that's bullshit - hard work isn't a good thing in and of itself alone - you can't really judge it unless you know what it is that it is work towards, whether that is a worthwhile thing, etc. I hate to piss on any parades but an awful lot of jobs in the present day seem to be just work for the sake of work and inconsequential paper pushing.
[URL="https://libcom.org/library/phenomenon-bullshit-jobs-david-graeber"]This[/URL] essay on 'bullshit jobs' by LSE anthropologist David Graeber seems pretty apt to me[/QUOTE]
I think they mean work ethic as in like the ability for a person to consistently put in effort and to fully dedicate their allotted work hours to their job. Even if you think your job is inconcsequencial, meaningless, or monotonous, you are still getting payed to perform a task and if you're not even going to try then you probably don't deserve that job.
[QUOTE=JustExtreme;51623457]Do you guys mean work ethic as in "the principle that hard work is intrinsically virtuous or worthy of reward."?
If so I think that's bullshit - hard work isn't a good thing in and of itself alone - you can't really judge it unless you know what it is that it is work towards, whether that is a worthwhile thing, etc. I hate to piss on any parades but an awful lot of jobs in the present day seem to be just work for the sake of work and inconsequential paper pushing.
[URL="https://libcom.org/library/phenomenon-bullshit-jobs-david-graeber"]This[/URL] essay on 'bullshit jobs' by LSE anthropologist David Graeber seems pretty apt to me[/QUOTE]
What I mean by work ethic is the concept of applying oneself to the job they are getting paid to do. There's a difference between working hard and applying yourself. It's about time management. I've seen more millenial types glued to their phones for what seems like all hours of a work day than older people. On the other hand I've also seen plenty of older people skip out on working all together, or finding that a better way to spend their time is to talk to coworkers than do their job.
I'm not saying that a workplace should be some neo communist "what can I do for the company, not for myself" thing, but there's a very clear difference between doing your job and not doing your job. Right now, I'm not doing my job because I'm posting this. But I'm also on a break so it's no big deal.
I'm just saying that in my own anecdotal experience I've seen more millenials fail at doing what they're paid to do than slightly older individuals.
[QUOTE=JustExtreme;51623457]Do you guys mean work ethic as in "the principle that hard work is intrinsically virtuous or worthy of reward."?
If so I think that's bullshit - hard work isn't a good thing in and of itself alone - you can't really judge it unless you know what it is that it is work towards, whether that is a worthwhile thing, etc. I hate to piss on any parades but an awful lot of jobs in the present day seem to be just work for the sake of work and inconsequential paper pushing.
[URL="https://libcom.org/library/phenomenon-bullshit-jobs-david-graeber"]This[/URL] essay on 'bullshit jobs' by LSE anthropologist David Graeber seems pretty apt to me[/QUOTE]
It really doesn't matter if you think your job is above or below you; you're still getting paid to perform a task, and being on your cellphone or just not doing your job is a shitty work ethic.
If you're getting a paycheck, then you're expected to work and do your job to the best of your abilities. Yea, your job might suck and your pay might suck but you're still being paid to work, anything less is cheating your employer. Just because your job sucks doesn't justify you having a shitty work ethic.
In my completely anecdotal experience, hardwork does pay off. It took me from a dead end retail job at 18 to a full fledged career at 22, completely doubling my pay and improving my quality of life ten fold.
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