America's Third War: Texas Strikes Back (Civil War 2 Electric Boogaloo)
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[quote]“I never thought that we’d be in this paramilitary type of engagement. It's a war on the border," said Captain Stacy Holland with the Texas Department of Public Safety.
Holland leads a fleet of 16 state-of-the-art helicopters that make up the aviation assets used by the Texas DPS to fight Mexican drug cartels.
In recent years, the cartels have become bolder and more ruthless.
They cross the border with AK-47s on their backs, wearing military camouflage. They recruit in prisons and schools on the American side. Spotters sit in duck blinds along the Rio Grande and call out the positions of the U.S. Border Patrol.
To combat the cartels, the Texas Department of Public Safety is launching a counterinsurgency.
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“It certainly is a war in a sense that we’re doing what we can to protect Texans and the rest of the nation from clearly a threat that has emerged over the last several years,” said Former FBI prosecutor Steve McCraw, who runs the undeclared "war."
And now that there is added pressure on the cartels, the drug runners are employing new techniques, known as a splash down. When the heat is on, they attempt to return to Mexico with the drugs, often times in broad daylight. And because the Texas law enforcement’s authority ends at the border -- in this case the river -- they even have time to put on their life jackets.
“The cartels may be ruthless, they may be vicious, they may be cowardly ... but they’re not stupid,” said McCraw. “They’ll adapt their tactics and recently they’ve adapted their tactics to utilize smaller loads, cross with rafts, stolen vehicles on our side.”
President Barack Obama and Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano have recently said the Mexican border is more secure now than it has been in 20 years, but some along this border strongly disagree.
"To suggest the southwest border is secure is ridiculous," said Holland.[/quote]
[url]http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/11/18/americas-war-texas-mounts-counterinsurgency-effort/[/url]
Pardon me for asking, but what has this got to do with the American Civil War?
"Sir, the cartels are launching an attack on our outpost, what do we do?"
"...Bring in the rednecks."
"El Paso Station 3-T-8, we've spotted Mexican walkers!"
"Mexican walkers spotted on the South Ridge."
[sp]It's an Empire Strikes Back joke[/sp]
There will be a second Alamo shootout I just know it.
Excuse me but if they're crossing our border with GUNS and recruiting from our schools and prisons why the fuck haven't we shot them yet?
[QUOTE=Telepethi;26139504]Excuse me but if they're crossing our border with GUNS and recruiting from our schools and prisons why the fuck haven't we shot them yet?[/QUOTE]
Politicians don't want to commit political suicide. Unless you get some clear damned video footage of one of these bloodbaths if you give the call to start shooting you pretty much lose the entire minority vote. Its all politics not functionality.
I am recruiting YOU, facepunch, to assist me in preventing these border patrol PIGS from stopping my journey north -- to freedom!!!
[QUOTE=erazor;26139236]Pardon me for asking, but what has this got to do with the American Civil War?[/QUOTE]
OP is obviously not from the US.
[QUOTE=ItsGary;26140259]OP is obviously not from the US.[/QUOTE]
Viva la France
They should just place the National Guard all over the border and shoot on sight. There's no other effective way to stop this, unless something done is about drugs and legalization
[QUOTE=Shustriy;26140348]They should just place the National Guard all over the border and shoot on sight. There's no other effective way to stop this, unless something done is about drugs and legalization[/QUOTE]
Pretty much this
[QUOTE=DimJim;26139287]"Sir, the cartels are launching an attack on our outpost, what do we do?"
"...Bring in the rednecks."[/QUOTE]
Yep, because everyone in Texas is a redneck.
Related though, I say it's about damn time we're doing something. Not quite sure if this is the best thing to do, but it's a start.
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[QUOTE=Shustriy;26140348]They should just place the National Guard all over the border and shoot on sight. There's no other effective way to stop this, unless something done is about drugs and legalization[/QUOTE]
I'm pretty sure there would be something wrong with putting the military on the border and saying "Shoot anything brown and moving".
[QUOTE=Shustriy;26140348]They should just place the National Guard all over the border and shoot on sight. There's no other effective way to stop this, unless something done is about drugs and legalization[/QUOTE]
terrible idea
so just murder everyone who attempts to cross the border?
[QUOTE=Shustriy;26140348]They should just place the National Guard all over the border and shoot on sight. There's no other effective way to stop this, unless something done is about drugs and legalization[/QUOTE]
No they shouldn't, they should let them in
[QUOTE=TwinkieHouse;26139451]"El Paso Station 3-T-8, we've spotted Mexican walkers!"
"Mexican walkers spotted on the South Ridge."
[sp]It's an Empire Strikes Back joke[/sp][/QUOTE]
This is Echo 5-7 where on our way, I tell you hwhat.
Call in the artillery.
Just place some fucking tanks and APC's on the border, get some Little Birds and put them on strafing runs. It'll work.
[QUOTE=Leon Trotsky;26140577]terrible idea
so just murder everyone who attempts to cross the border?[/QUOTE]They should put up warning signs up in English and Spanish so that the people crossing know the risks
You know when the civil war was going on, Texas wasn't a state of the United States? Plus, we were fighting ourselves.
This is just a cartel issue, so its not with the US. And Texas wasn't apart of the union nor confederacy.
[QUOTE=Richard Simmons;26142841]You know when the civil war was going on, Texas wasn't a state of the United States? Plus, we were fighting ourselves.
This is just a cartel issue, so its not with the US. And Texas wasn't apart of the union nor confederacy.[/QUOTE]
Texas joined in 1845, The Civil War started in 1861. Texas was a major player in the CSA
Why does America care THAT much about Texas, they're like that shard of metal stuck in someone's brain that made that person retarded
Janet Napolitano is a blithering fool.
[QUOTE=Dr. Fishtastic;26143057]Why does America care THAT much about Texas, they're like that shard of metal stuck in someone's brain that made that person retarded[/QUOTE]
This coming from someone who has doubtlessly never actually been to Texas
This has nothing to do with America fighting America, so the title "Civil War" isn't very fitting. But, lol.
I don't think it would be a Civil war if the two factions are from different countries.
Are there any major rivers through that area? I suggest we find all of the natural water sources in the area, seal them, sign around it a "dry zone" and anything driving across will overheat/dehydrate (vehichles/people)
I say we put BDA and his paintball super soldiers on the boarder.
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[QUOTE=Jakobi;26143357]Are there any major rivers through that area? I suggest we find all of the natural water sources in the area, seal them, sign around it a "dry zone" and anything driving across will overheat/dehydrate (vehichles/people)[/QUOTE]
because draining the Rio Grande will totally not have a drastic impact on the local environment.
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[QUOTE=Dr. Fishtastic;26143057]Why does America care THAT much about Texas, they're like that shard of metal stuck in someone's brain that made that person retarded[/QUOTE]
Also have the second biggest GSP in the united states but who cares about that.
And...we still need full national guard units on the border (INSTEAD OF IN IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN JESUS CHRIST)
[QUOTE=Dr. Fishtastic;26143057]Why does America care THAT much about Texas, they're like that shard of metal stuck in someone's brain that made that person retarded[/QUOTE]
Biggest state/supplier of oil in the continental US /=/ not a big deal
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