Comedian Bill Cosby gets allegations over assault to a model that apparantly happened in 1982 - Polidicks

[QUOTE]For decades, Cosby was thought of in glowing terms as a perceptive comedian, upbeat pitchman and genial father figure. His public personality made him more than rich -- it made him a role model, admired for his support of education and his no-nonsense talks on parenting and achievement. In recent weeks, that persona has been paired with another, much darker image. On Tuesday, the famed comedian and TV star was accused of rape by Janice Dickinson, a former model. In an interview on "Entertainment Tonight," Dickinson claimed Cosby assaulted her in 1982 after the two had dinner in Lake Tahoe. [...] "Janice Dickinson's story accusing Bill Cosby of rape is a lie," he told CNN in a statement. "There is a glaring contradiction between what she is claiming now for the first time and what she wrote in her own book and what she told the media back in 2002. Ms. Dickinson did an interview with the New York Observer in September 2002 entitled 'Interview With a Vamp' completely contradicting her new story about Mr. Cosby. "That interview a dozen years ago said 'she didn't want to go to bed with him and he blew her off.' Her publisher HarperCollins can confirm that no attorney representing Mr. Cosby tried to kill the alleged rape story (since there was no such story) or tried to prevent her from saying whatever she wanted about Bill Cosby in her book." [/QUOTE] Sources: [url]http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/19/showbiz/celebrity-news-gossip/bill-cosby-allegations/index.html[/url] [url]http://news.sky.com/story/1376516/nbc-scraps-bill-cosby-project-amid-rape-claims[/url]

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/RQAraQX.jpg[/IMG] Guilty.

If you want to sue someone/accuse them of rape/assault, do it when it happens or when you're old enough to. Why are people rating me dumb? This happened in 1982. If the article is correct she reported this around 2002, even if she was 6 years old why didn't she report it earlier?

[QUOTE=EpicRandomnes;46532110]If you want to sue someone/accuse them of rape/assault, do it when it happens or when you're old enough to.[/QUOTE] Eh, no? If they've been abused and they're reporting a crime you don't just go "aw well sorry pal, it happened more than 10 years ago, we might as well just ignore this claim of sexual assault or rape since it happened a while ago.

[QUOTE=bravehat;46532126]Eh, no? If they've been abused and they're reporting a crime you don't just go "aw well sorry pal, it happened more than 10 years ago, we might as well just ignore this claim of sexual assault or rape since it happened a while ago.[/QUOTE] I didn't say "Don't report them", I said do it WHEN it happened. It does no one any favors if you wait 10+ years to report a serious crime of rape/abuse. Does that mean she shouldn't get a fair hearing? No. If I was robbed of $1000, do I wait 10 years and [I]then[/I] tell the police? No, I don't, because by that time any evidence is near-gone and they'll suspect me of faking it.

[QUOTE=EpicRandomnes;46532136]I didn't say "Don't report them", I said do it WHEN it happened. It does no one any favors if you wait 10+ years to report a serious crime of rape/abuse. Does that mean she shouldn't get a fair hearing? No. If I was robbed of $1000, do I wait 10 years and [I]then[/I] tell the police? No, I don't, because by that time any evidence is near-gone and they'll suspect me of faking it.[/QUOTE] Really it comes down to how old she was when she said it happened, cause I imagine for a kid it would be kinda difficult to report a rape. Oh and the multiple rape allegations since it's not just one person.

I'd take Dickenson's word with a huge grain of salt. She did her interview with ET a few nights ago, but when the CBS Evening News wanted to sit down and do an interview with her regarding the incident she wanted to be fucking paid for the interview. That's a huge red flag to me.

[QUOTE=bravehat;46532145]Really it comes down to how old she was when she said it happened, cause I imagine for a kid it would be kinda difficult to report a rape.[/QUOTE] Well that's pretty darn obvious. But it clearly states in the article that they had dinner together, and that signals "date" to me. The article also points out contradictory claims by her, and finally this was in 1982. That's a full 20 years between then and 2002, unless she was an infant this is very very very late. Kids would have trouble reporting rape, but this isn't that kind of a case.

[QUOTE=EpicRandomnes;46532155]Well that's pretty darn obvious. But it clearly states in the article that they had dinner together, and that signals "date" to me. The article also points out contradictory claims by her, and finally this was in 1982. That's a full 20 years, provided she had [I]just[/I] been born, for her to have been raped. Kids would have trouble reporting rape, but this isn't that kind of a case.[/QUOTE] Yeah we'll see if evidence comes out, really that's all there is to it.

She's 59 now, so ~27 in 1982. If that matters.

[QUOTE=tirpider;46532262]She's 59 now, so ~27 in 1982. If that matters.[/QUOTE] Dunno why she wouldn't report it at the time then, but if she didn't she didn't. Really with shit like this there's not much you can do but watch and hope evidence comes out.

Even if she lied, NBC's plans to restart the Bill Cosby Show are fucked because they killed the project the instant they caught wind of it. [url=http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-30123343]Here's a source on that.[/url]

[QUOTE=EpicRandomnes;46532110]If you want to sue someone/accuse them of rape/assault, do it when it happens or when you're old enough to. Why are people rating me dumb? This happened in 1982. If the article is correct she reported this around 2002, even if she was 6 years old why didn't she report it earlier?[/QUOTE] For some victims, they won't feel comfortable telling people in case they aren't believed, mocked/ridiculed etc, especially if the accused is in a high position of power. Like, just keep in mind, things around us change and with these types of stories becoming more frequent, victims may feel less alone, although there is the other side who may also see it as a potential method to make easy money I have no idea which one this falls under as I simply don't know enough about it

Here's Cosby being asked about the allegations in an interview [media]http://youtube.com/watch?v=RI6z97Efw3I[/media] [editline]20th November 2014[/editline] BTW seven woman have now made accusations against him, not just one [url]http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/nov/20/bill-cosby-acused-sexual-assault-seventh-woman[/url]

[QUOTE=smurfy;46534376]Here's Cosby being asked about the allegations in an interview [media]http://youtube.com/watch?v=RI6z97Efw3I[/media] [editline]20th November 2014[/editline] BTW seven woman have now made accusations against him, not just one [url]http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/nov/20/bill-cosby-acused-sexual-assault-seventh-woman[/url][/QUOTE] The comments on the video are ridiculous. Like it's AP's job to hide the stuff they record because it's mean. "Defamation" "You gave him your word."

Bill Cosby raped me 20 years ago hey me too me too me too

[QUOTE=smurfy;46534376] BTW seven woman have now made accusations against him, not just one [url]http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/nov/20/bill-cosby-acused-sexual-assault-seventh-woman[/url][/QUOTE] [quote]She spoke openly about the racial factor in the abuse she alleged she suffered, [B]as a white woman at the hands of a black man. [/B]“There was not a lot of inter-racial dating,” she said. “I came from Dearborn, Michigan. He was black, I was white, and he was married. It was not in my wildest dreams that that would occur.”[/quote] I know the 70s were still a delicate time for race relations, but the way I'm reading this, this seems like the woman and writer is trying to incorporate that, because he was black it was more horrendous.

[QUOTE=Aznsniper911;46534589]I know the 70s were still a delicate time for race relations, but the way I'm reading this, this seems like the woman and writer is trying to incorporate that, because he was black it was more horrendous.[/QUOTE] Well everybody knows rape by black people is worse I mean come on man they ARE LITERALLY ANIMALS haven't you been reading your KKK pamphlets?

[QUOTE=bisousbisous;46534553]Bill Cosby raped me 20 years ago hey me too me too me too[/QUOTE] if one allegation is true shouldnt you not shrug something like that off so easily

[QUOTE=bisousbisous;46534553]Bill Cosby raped me 20 years ago hey me too me too me too[/QUOTE] You're making a joke but yeah this is how it generally happens with rape allegations. One person gets the bravery to speak up, then others get inspired to do so too.

This isn't the first time he's been in trouble for this; by the same token Dickinson has been up to her ass in lies and bullshit regarding people she doesn't like, so both sides should be taken with several grains of salt.

I'm more mad that people suddenly abandon "innocent until proven guilty" when it comes to rape charges in general. Why is it the accusers aren't held up the the same scrutiny? They have a lot to gain from this and not much to lose. (I do understand companies bailing out when [I]charges[/I] are filed against the accused, that's bad for PR, but when [I]allegations[/I] come forward?)

[QUOTE=milkandcooki;46534672]You're making a joke but yeah this is how it generally happens with rape allegations. One person gets the bravery to speak up, then others get inspired to do so too.[/QUOTE] That's assuming all the people claiming rape were actually raped. Not saying they couldn't be telling the truth but I have no idea why most people support "innocent until proven guilty" for literally anything until rape comes into play in which case the mind set takes a complete turn.

[QUOTE=bisousbisous;46534553]Bill Cosby raped me 20 years ago hey me too me too me too[/QUOTE] Have you ever heard of this guy? [t]http://i3.dailyrecord.co.uk/incoming/article2472564.ece/alternates/s615b/Jimmy-Savile-photographed-in-2007.jpg[/t] Yeah, basically kinda the same thing is happening but nobody knows if Cosby is actually guilty of the alleged crimes yet. Time will tell, as it always does.

[QUOTE=TomatoFlakes;46534770]Why is it the accusers aren't held up the the same scrutiny? They have a lot to gain from this and not much to lose.[/QUOTE] They are held up to scrutiny, often too much scrutiny. Sometimes the police make them feel like they're the criminal and it really doesn't help. There does need to be careful investigation but the first and foremost thing should be respect for the victim and ensuring they aren't made to feel like they're to blame for what happened, or what happened to them wasn't rape. False rape claims are extremely rare. It's actually more common for "guilty until proven innocent" to be applied to rape victims than alleged rapists. The alleged rapist may be brought in for an interview under caution (no presumption of guilt), while in some occasions the rape victim is grilled and threatened to see if they will retract their statement (presumption of guilt). It's terrible - but it happens. This is why many cases are marked as "No crime" in the UK.

[QUOTE=BANNED USER;46534955]Have you ever heard of this guy? [t]http://i3.dailyrecord.co.uk/incoming/article2472564.ece/alternates/s615b/Jimmy-Savile-photographed-in-2007.jpg[/t] Yeah, basically kinda the same thing is happening but nobody knows if Cosby is actually guilty of the alleged crimes yet. Time will tell, as it always does.[/QUOTE] Remember this recent incident? [IMG]http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02959/rolf06_2959335b.jpg[/IMG]

[QUOTE=bravehat;46532126]Eh, no? If they've been abused and they're reporting a crime you don't just go "aw well sorry pal, it happened more than 10 years ago, we might as well just ignore this claim of sexual assault or rape since it happened a while ago.[/QUOTE] That's pretty much exactly how statutes of limitations work. It varies by state for rape, but it's often less than 10 years.

[QUOTE=laserpanda;46535038]That's pretty much exactly how statutes of limitations work. It varies by state for rape, but it's usually less than 10 years.[/QUOTE] In my opinion statutes of limitations should only apply to minor crimes. Why reward someone for being good at getting away with a severe crime?

[QUOTE=YourFriendJoe;46534788]That's assuming all the people claiming rape were actually raped. Not saying they couldn't be telling the truth but I have no idea why most people support "innocent until proven guilty" for literally anything until rape comes into play in which case the mind set takes a complete turn.[/QUOTE] where do you find the mindset of "guilty until proven innocent" from a criticism of marginalizing rape allegations with jokes?

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