U.S. House passes Keystone bill, but prospects unclear in the Senate - Polidicks

[QUOTE][url]http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/news/us-house-passes-keystone-bill-but-prospects-unclear-in-the-senate/ar-BBdJVs2[/url][/QUOTE] [QUOTE]WASHINGTON, Nov 14 (Reuters) - The Republican-led U.S. House of Representatives approved the Keystone XL pipeline on Friday, but a similar measure struggled to get enough support in the Senate and President Barack Obama indicated he might use his veto if the bill does get through Congress. The legislation, approved by 252 votes to 161, circumvents the need for approval of TransCanada Corp's $8 billion project by the Obama administration, which has been considering it for more than six years[/QUOTE] Well just hopefully they build it right, i live here in Southern Nebraska, and we don't need oil leaking into the Ogallala Aquifier, or basically were screwed in that situation.

[QUOTE=Deathtrooper2;46490029]Well just hopefully they build it right, i live here in Southern Nebraska, and we don't need oil leaking into the Ogallala Aquifier, or basically were screwed in that situation.[/QUOTE] A pipeline is far safer than moving it by truck or rail.

I'd prefer nuclear, but oh well

I just hope this passes. It will create jobs and add to energy independence from OPEC. Building this pipeline is a great way to sustain ourselves until we figure out more viable, and environmentally friendly alternatives to oil.

Wasn't there a really good reason why this [I]shouldn't[/I] pass? Something to do with shady construction possibly?

It would run through a very important aquifer and pipelines have a tendency to leak to some degree. The impact of this is still widley debated though.

I mind it getting passed as long as it's checked for leaks quarterly, reduces prices nationally, and finally the emergency plans are better than industry standards.

This should tell you something about what Republican's number one priority is. Making sure oil companies get what they want.

I'm turning in a 55+ page report on Keystone XL on Tuesday, so this is pretty neat timing. TL;DR for my whole report: building a pipeline is the most environmentally friendly option other than ending the crude oil production entirely. [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/d2xU2f2.png[/IMG] [url]http://keystonepipeline-xl.state.gov/documents/organization/221198.pdf[/url]

[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;46492607]This should tell you something about what Republican's number one priority is. Making sure oil companies get what they want.[/QUOTE] Uh And what Americans want too? In case you haven't heard, people used to love to complain about gas prices all the time. We still for the most part rely on gasoline cars, not all of us have the money to buy a tesla. And most of the other electric cars are either impractical, or dreadfully painful to drive.

[QUOTE=CoalTen;46493019]I'm turning in a 55+ page report on Keystone XL on Tuesday, so this is pretty neat timing. TL;DR for my whole report: building a pipeline is the most environmentally friendly option other than ending the crude oil production entirely. [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/d2xU2f2.png[/IMG] [url]http://keystonepipeline-xl.state.gov/documents/organization/221198.pdf[/url][/QUOTE] Isn't shale oil supposed to be significantly dirtier than crude oil deposits though? And what about the UN report that said if we don't starting curbing oil use now we're pretty much fucked.

[QUOTE=RichyZ;46493113]betcha gas prices wont drop a dime [/QUOTE] Eh, they already have in the past few months. Quite a few dimes actually. [QUOTE=SlyManx;46493053]Isn't shale oil supposed to be significantly dirtier than crude oil deposits though? And what about the UN report that said if we don't starting curbing oil use now we're pretty much fucked.[/QUOTE] We can't do much more than make use of renewable energy sources when we can and use oil efficiently. There are major roadblocks (heh) in the way of replacing our cars and factories' power sources. Until the technology is there, we have to rely on oil. Even if it's shale oil, crude oil, or god forbid; bitumen. Also just ceasing our production of carbon dioxide very rapidly would have very bad ramifications for the planet.

[QUOTE=thelurker1234;46493211] Also just ceasing our production of carbon dioxide very rapidly would have very dangerous ramifications for the planet.[/QUOTE] Source?

[QUOTE=Raidyr;46493222]Source?[/QUOTE] Carbon dioxide keeps heat from escaping the planet, our excess production of carbon dioxide has led to algae blooms and lots of plankton, who consume carbon dioxide. If the suppliers go away, they consume too much. [URL]http://www.exeter.ac.uk/news/featurednews/title_176611_en.html[/URL] Here's an example of what happened when plantae consumed too much carbon dioxide. Though, to be fair in that source it says it would take quite a long time for it to happen. That was a bit of an exaggeration on my part I suppose.

[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;46492607]This should tell you something about what Republican's number one priority is. Making sure oil companies get what they want.[/QUOTE] Democrats doing things they were elected to do: the system works Republicans doing things they were elected to do: the system is [I]rigged[/I]

If safeguards are put in place, I'm all for this. Strength from the soil, clearly.

Its a fucking oil pipeline. We have hundreds of them across the country. The Keystone Pipeline issue is to the Democrats what Benghazi is to Republicans. They're both completely overblown.

[QUOTE=>VLN<;46491886]I just hope this passes. It will create jobs and add to energy independence from OPEC.[/QUOTE] Energy Independence is likely just going to provide political gains, which maybe is the entire point of it from the House's perspective. Won't affect consumer gas prices at all I'd imagine. Though I wonder how the oil price falling will affect it.