Is my being a commie detrimental to my studying in Canada and America?
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I am Chinese, and unfortunately, I was forced to join the commie party for I was one of the top students and elected to be one last year in my college. I just couldn't say no because being a party member means honor in China ,although I don't think so. If I had rejected the offer, I would have been investigated for political belief, ideology or something,which could have been dangerous to my college life. However, now I am devoted to studying abroad,especially in Canada or America. I've taken the GRE and TOEFL tests, having made huge efforts. I really don't wanna my commie identity overshadow my grad school abroad.So any of you give me some insights about this. Do I have to take risks leaving the party?? Do American and Canadian societies accept people like me?
Only old people are really going to look down on you for your political beliefs, and unless you go around waving a Soviet flag or wear an Ushanka with a soviet pin, nobody will notice or really care. Colleges in the US lean politically to the left, so if you actually believe in a communist ideology, I'm sure you'll be able to find someone who believes in it as well.
McCarthyism hasn't been a thing in the US since long before the cold war ended, so I doubt you'll have to worry much.
Why would anyone in the US care? It's not the 50s anymore, there's a communist party of America and Canada. You can stay in the party or leave, whatever you want to do. Just be aware that if you want a job that requires clearances in the US you will definitely have a major background check done, but they would do that for anyone.
I believe it's illegal for colleges/universities in the US to reject or otherwise mistreat students based on political beliefs.
I wouldn't worry about it.
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;42450631]Only old people are really going to look down on you for your political beliefs, and unless you go around waving a Soviet flag or wear an Ushanka with a soviet pin, nobody will notice or really care. Colleges in the US lean politically to the left, so if you actually believe in a communist ideology, I'm sure you'll be able to find someone who believes in it as well.
McCarthyism hasn't been a thing in the US since long before the cold war ended, so I doubt you'll have to worry much.[/QUOTE]
That really is my concern. Thank you for your information.
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[QUOTE=Foxtrot200;42450704]I believe it's illegal for colleges/universities in the US to reject or otherwise mistreat students based on political beliefs.
I wouldn't worry about it.[/QUOTE]
Good to know that, After all, I really have no political belief in communism.
Plenty of Chinese people come to various Canadian universities to study.
Get out while you can, we're all bigots!
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;42450631]Only old people are really going to look down on you for your political beliefs, and unless you go around waving a Soviet flag or wear an Ushanka with a soviet pin, nobody will notice or really care. Colleges in the US lean politically to the left, so if you actually believe in a communist ideology, I'm sure you'll be able to find someone who believes in it as well.
McCarthyism hasn't been a thing in the US since long before the cold war ended, so I doubt you'll have to worry much.[/QUOTE]
A lot of fraternities in the states judge you based on your political beliefs and your background. Moreso in the south than anything. But it still affects your ability to create connections and such, as people may not want to be associated with you.
As a Canadian, I can safely say that no one is going to bash you over political views. There's a pretty huge asian population here in Vancouver, if that's also any comfort.
Dude, If you don't claim faith in communism, i think its okay. You were not voluntary, were you?
[QUOTE=Chronische;42450645]Why would anyone in the US care? It's not the 50s anymore, there's a communist party of America and Canada. You can stay in the party or leave, whatever you want to do. Just be aware that if you want a job that requires clearances in the US you will definitely have a major background check done, but they would do that for anyone.[/QUOTE]
some people will be dicks about it
they [B]always[/B] exist but aren't very common
but they can screw themselves with a baseball bat covered in razor blades and piss off
people of standard intelligence have no time for their shit and usually just stay the hell away / shut them up
Literally nobody cares. I go to a school with a lot of international students (most of my college friends are from outside the United States) and I've never seen someone picked on for their national origin.
What you joined isn't communism anyway and no one is going to know or care unless you tell them.
Isn't posting this just as bad as not joining the party?
Or does China not scour the internet for posts like these?
It'd be great to know that the US does more surveillance on American citizens than China does on Chinese citizens.
[QUOTE=gerbe1;42450993]Isn't posting this just as bad as not joining the party?
Or does China not scour the internet for posts like these?
It'd be great to know that the US does more surveillance on American citizens than China does on Chinese citizens.[/QUOTE]
There are numerous posts like this throughout the Internet. It could cost the CCP zillions of yuans to look into every post like this. Basically, the ccp only regulates posts/blogs by some renowned scholars,that ilk. For instance, several days ago, a well-known professor of a university in China, said something and posted that on his blog, ending up getting arrested a few days later.
the only good commie is a dead commie
No one cares in the least bit. Especially so on the west coast of America like California where there are millions of Chinese students and residents anyway. You might get a couple of playful jabs thrown at you by people from Taiwan though. Even back during the 70's when people were still angry at the Soviets and China there were people on college campuses handing out hundreds of copies of 毛主席语录. Of course that was before everyone found out how many people died from the policies that he made though. Nowadays people don't really care one way or the other.
[QUOTE=butre;42451062]the only good commie is a dead commie[/QUOTE]
why even say that
[sp]the commies will get you[/sp]
[QUOTE=butre;42451062]the only good commie is a dead commie[/QUOTE]
CHINESE COMMUNIST DETECTED ON AMERICAN SOIL!
你没有问题啊,我是加拿大人哈哈。我们不认为你是坏人!对我们,你是只交换学生。不担心。
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[QUOTE=gerbe1;42450993]It'd be great to know that the US does more surveillance on American citizens than China does on Chinese citizens.[/QUOTE]
China monitors everything, and unlike American monitors, it actively censors as well.
[QUOTE=Disseminate;42451146]你没有问题啊,我是加拿大人哈哈。我们不认为你是坏人!对我们,你是只交换学生。不担心。
[editline]8th October 2013[/editline]
China monitors everything, and unlike American monitors, it actively censors as well.[/QUOTE]
This. The over exaggeration that America has the NSA monitor everything on the internet and everything you post is watched by NSA agents gets very tiresome and does nothing but downplay the countries that actually do this.
Can you renounce your communist party membership? It seems like you've already enjoyed the benefits and it looks like you're planning on leaving anyways.
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;42451240]Can you renounce your communist party membership? It seems like you've already enjoyed the benefits and it looks like you're planning on leaving anyways.[/QUOTE]
It's not without difficulty. I confess I did enjoy some benefits engendered by that identity and I will continue to benefit from it if I simply don't quit. But,honestly, many of us are no more than puppets of the "leaders". We hardly enjoy any of the so-called rights granted. We do "elect", but before that there is already a clear decision,rendering our election meaningless. I'm sick of being a puppet of dictators. That's why I 'd love to quit.
Stay in the party, work your way through the ranks, then promote better reform for your country once you're at the top.
Canada welcomes people from all faiths and political background. We also have a HUGE asian community here in Ontario so you should feel comfortable here.
Just don't go near quebec.
My city gets exchange students all the time from China, I don't think you wouldn't be welcome here [aka you'd probably be welcome here!]
[QUOTE=amentothatt;42451050]There are numerous posts like this throughout the Internet. It could cost the CCP zillions of yuans to look into every post like this. Basically, the ccp only regulates posts/blogs by some renowned scholars,that ilk. For instance, several days ago, a well-known professor of a university in China, said something and posted that on his blog, ending up getting arrested a few days later.[/QUOTE]Jesus, life sounds pretty strict over there..
[QUOTE=amentothatt;42451333]It's not without difficulty. I confess I did enjoy some benefits engendered by that identity and I will continue to benefit from it if I simply don't quit. But,honestly, many of us are no more than puppets of the "leaders". We hardly enjoy any of the so-called rights granted. We do "elect", but before that there is already a clear decision,rendering our election meaningless. I'm sick of being a puppet of dictators. That's why I 'd love to quit.[/QUOTE]
I don't think they require you to be active outside of your country, you could outright (like you're doing here) deny association with being communist (because you don't believe in the ideals) or state like you've stated here, that you were strong armed (more or less) into joining the party.
Not that anyone would judge you even if you did say you were in the communist party (You have to be like Rayhalo to get any flak).
Eventually get a permanent citizenship in a western country, and just try to leave your ties behind, it should be fairly doable.
People will understand if you are a communist party member in China because we know it's not like a political party here. No one in America or Canada hates communists anymore, but many people do not like or agree with them. Academic settings are very sympathetic to all views, and even if you aren't really a communist you should find that your status as a party member would not make you unwelcome.
Just don't pick anything where you have to come in contact with NASA, because you're ported from it!
[url]http://www.theguardian.com/science/2013/oct/05/us-scientists-boycott-nasa-china-ban[/url]
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