Israel must prepare for the worst in Egypt - Polidicks

[i]Reuters Jerusalem - 16th Feb 2011[/i] [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/XZlkW.jpg[/IMG] [i]Senior members of Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood Saad el-Katatni, right, Mohamed Morsi, centre, and Essam el-Erian hold a press conference on the latest situation in Egypt in Cairo, Egypt, Wednesday, Feb. 9, 2011. (AP / Mohammed Abou Zaid)[/i] [quote=Reuters] Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said on Wednesday that while he hoped Egypt's efforts to achieve democracy succeeded, he had to "prepare for the worst" as well. Netanyahu reiterated hopes that that Egypt would stick by a 1979 peace treaty with Israel, as the new military rulers in Cairo said they would in a statement issued on Saturday. "No one knows what the future in Egypt will bring," he told American Jewish leaders in speech in Jerusalem. In an apparent reference to critics charging that Israel has shown too much fear yet too little enthusiasm for the changes taking place in Egypt, Netanyahu said that "if there's a difference between Israel and others ... ( it's that) I cannot simply hope for the best, I must also prepare for the worst." He said that "part of that preparation is to alert the leaders and policymakers around the world of possible dangers that may lie ahead, not because I want those dangers to materialise. I don't." "I have no doubt that maintaining the peace, deepening the peace is an interest of Egypt. And I hope that this will accompany the Egyptian effort to achieve a free and democratic society as they pursue their reform," the Israeli leader added. "Ultimately the people of Egypt are those who will decide their own fate, but Israel cannot profess a neutrality as to the outcome," he said. "Every single Egyptian should know the people of Israel is committed to peace both with them and with all our other neighbours," he went on, alluding to peace deals Israel seeks with other Arab nations, including the Palestinians with whom U.S.-brokered peace talks have stagnated since September. Egypt was the first Arab country to sign a peace treaty with Israel, followed by Jordan in 1994. An interim accord was reached with Palestinians in 1993. (Writing by Allyn Fisher-Ilan; Editing by Jon Hemming) [/quote] [url=http://af.reuters.com/article/egyptNews/idAFLDE71F2K920110216]Source[/url] I hope Egypt doesn't break the peace treaty... for their own sakes.

If it happens we know how it will end.

If they do it then they will most probably lose all aid from the US, they can't afford to lose it.

Staring a war with Israel is really not in their best interest

Last thing either country needs is a war, both nations are going through tons of shit.

I see what you did there OP.

Futher destabalisation would be rather bad.

The Brotherhood spokesperson on CNN clearly stated that they were not against the State of Israel, or the Jews. They were against Zionism.

Meh, blow them both up so I don't have to hear about it any longer. Why can't you sandbox bastards just be friends. Stop fighting over the sand, god does not exist. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("If you don't want to read the news, stay out of the news forum" - TH89))[/highlight]

Israel will fuck them up if they try to attack them.

[QUOTE=DarkSpider;28100763]Meh, blow them both up so I don't have to hear about it any longer. Why can't you sandbox bastards just be friends. Stop fighting over the sand, god does not exist.[/QUOTE] You have got to be fucking kidding me

israel's been killing egyptian nuclear scientists for as long as i can remember

Nothing will happen, it's just fear mongering since their little pet Mubarak is gone. There's a difference between maintaining peace with Israel and being against Israel, but you can actually do both.

[QUOTE=DarkSpider;28100763]Meh, blow them both up so I don't have to hear about it any longer. Why can't you sandbox bastards just be friends. Stop fighting over the sand, god does not exist.[/QUOTE] sigh

[QUOTE=Starpluck;28101389]Nothing will happen, it's just fear mongering since their little pet Mubarak is gone. There's a difference between maintaining peace with Israel and being against Israel; you can actually do both.[/QUOTE] That's true. I don't think they'd be stupid enough to wage war on Israel. Israel is well capable of holding it's own militarily. Of course this means i'll probably have to listen to more Glenn Beck fueled fear mongering by my mother, ughh.

[QUOTE=apurplerock;28101155]You have got to be fucking kidding me[/QUOTE] Not at all bro, I think you guys should stop fighting over sand. You all could be doing way more productive things. I know not everyone cares about the sand, but the ones who do should just go die in a corner. Jerusalem is about as holy as Compton, LA.

[QUOTE=Starpluck;28101389]Nothing will happen, it's just fear mongering since their little pet Mubarak is gone. There's a difference between maintaining peace with Israel and being against Israel, but you can actually do both.[/QUOTE] Really? Because Mubarak was decent towards Israel he was their pet? You must have some strange friendships.

[QUOTE=CabooseRvB;28097249]The Brotherhood spokesperson on CNN clearly stated that they were not against the State of Israel, or the Jews. They were against Zionism.[/QUOTE] The Brotherhood isn't in control of Egypt, the Egyptian military is. (although they said they planned to honor existing treaties, j/s)

[QUOTE=Devodiere;28101547]Really? Because Mubarak was decent towards Israel he was their pet? You must have some strange friendships.[/QUOTE] Decent is an understatement, he wasn't neutral and was extremely supportive of Israel regardless of their actions.

[QUOTE=Starpluck;28101639]Decent is an understatement, he wasn't neutral and was extremely supportive of Israel regardless of their actions.[/QUOTE] Mind giving some examples of things where he obviously subverted his own beliefs in preference of compliance with Israel? Seems to me like most of this support was for things that were good for him too.

Hope for the best, prepare for the worst. Regardless of any situation, I've always thought that a good strategy.

They said they were going to honor the treaties, what's the problem?

[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;28101831]They said they were going to honor the treaties, what's the problem?[/QUOTE] They are, it's just Netanyahu, the Israeli president who said "Israel must prepare for the worst" trying to get some form of sympathy.

[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;28101831]They said they were going to honor the treaties, what's the problem?[/QUOTE] Everything is in flux so even though they say it, there's no guarantee. They're fine with them having a democratic leader and all, not like it hurts to be prepared though.

[QUOTE=Devodiere;28101730]Mind giving some examples of things where he obviously subverted his own beliefs in preference of compliance with Israel? Seems to me like most of this support was for things that were good for him too.[/QUOTE]It was pretty evident when he receives the abundant gratuitous amount of cash in exchange for subservience. He supported Israel during the Lebanon war and the Gaza war, for example. He knows that if he stops that "aid" (bribery is a more accurate term) will stop flowing in. He was actually informed about the Gaza war ahead of time and did nothing to try to prevent it or calm tensions, instead he remained silent as Israel initiated the war.

[QUOTE=DarkSpider;28101479]Not at all bro, I think you guys should stop fighting over sand. You all could be doing way more productive things. I know not everyone cares about the sand, but the ones who do should just go die in a corner. Jerusalem is about as holy as Compton, LA.[/QUOTE] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfYJsQAhl0[/media]

[QUOTE=Starpluck;28101898]It was pretty evident when he receives the abundant gratuitous amount of cash in exchange for subservience. He supported Israel during the Lebanon war and the Gaza war. He was actually informed about the Gaza war ahead of time and did nothing to try to prevent it or calm tensions, instead he remained silent as Israel initiated the war.[/QUOTE] In exchange for cooperation. If they can extort some cash out of the US in exchange for getting peace, why not? He wasn't obliged to do whatever they wanted, it was just a bonus. Lebanon war and Gaza war could refer to many different things so I might have the wrong one. Cast Lead was in Egypt's interests because they are keeping the Southern border, they are a possible target for Hamas and they would be glad to see them go. Obviously they would want as little bloodshed as possible but the actual conflict is fine with them. I don't think they would care that much about Israel going into Lebanon. It was intended to stop Hezbollah and they are for peace instead of pointless belligerence. Really though, he wasn't involved much and was ok with whatever.

seriously that is the dumbest thing i've heard all day ninjas

[img]http://i.imgur.com/XZlkW.jpg[/img] Am I the only one that finds that guy's face hilarious ?

[QUOTE=Devodiere;28101980]In exchange for cooperation. If they can extort some cash out of the US in exchange for getting peace, why not? He wasn't obliged to do whatever they wanted, it was just a bonus. [/QUOTE] It was not in reward of maintaining peace. It was as along as he supported Israel. [B]Every country in that region is committed to maintaining peace and normalizing relations with Israel [/B]as per the Arab Peace Initiative from the Arab League. If what you said about Egypt bringing peace to region was the cause for the "aid", then why don't all the other Arab nations who are just as committed as Egypt receive aid as well? It's because while they wish to maintain peace with Israel, they refuse to support them. Egypt does both, thus gets cash. Imagine if Egypt (hypothetically under Mubarak's rule still) all of a sudden stops staunchly supporting Israel and stops sharing complicity with the illegal Israel blockade but is still posses all the peaceful elements with Israel, you can't honestly say that they'll still receive U.S. "aid" for maintaining peace in the region. [editline]17th February 2011[/editline] There's some sort of false belief that needs to stop, that somehow Egypt is the [I]only one [/I]who is doing all the work to try stabilize and maintain peace in the region. This is not true.