Marijuana Associated With 50% Lower Chance Of Developing Metabolic Syndrome

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[QUOTE]Marijuana users are stereotypically portrayed as lazy, leading a generally sedentary lifestyle. They are also prone to get the “munchies,” which science proved to actually be a thing a few months ago. Those two factors are leading causes of metabolic syndrome, so one would think that marijuana users would be at greater risk of metabolic syndrome. A new study shows that’s not the case, however.

According to research published in The American Journal of Medicine, people who currently smoke marijuana are about 50 percent less likely to have metabolic syndrome compared to those who have never smoked marijuana. Metabolic syndrome is a group of risk factors like high blood pressure, high blood sugar, unhealthy cholesterol levels, and abdominal fat, which are linked to increased risk of heart disease and/or type 2 diabetes, as well as other health problems.

Researchers from the University of Miami Leonard M. Miller School of Medicine looked for the association between marijuana use and metabolic syndrome using data from a 2005 to 2010 study by National Health and Nutrition Examination Surveys. The study, in which nearly 8,500 20- to 59-year-olds participated, classified people as having metabolic syndrome if they had more than three of these symptoms: elevated fasting glucose levels, high triglycerides, low HDL cholesterol, elevated systolic or diastolic blood pressure, and increased waist circumference.

Marijuana users also showed mean fasting glucose levels — the way we determine how much sugar is in the blood — significantly lower than the levels when compared to people who never smoked, while waist circumference was significantly lower among men who currently smoked when compared to those that never did.

“Among emerging adults, current marijuana users were 54 percent less likely than never users to present with metabolic syndrome,” the researchers said. “These findings have important implications for the nation as marijuana use becomes more accepted and we simultaneously face multiple epidemics of obesity, cardiovascular disease, and diabetes.”
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[RocKRebel]

Holy shit, that guy on the picture is from my town!

[Kube]

Marijuana studies are hard to believe with all the contradicting conclusions.

I was looking up study aids since I have problems focusing and concentrating on what's in front of me and that my mind jumps from one thought to another, and I stumbled onto a medical article that stated the THC in marijuana increases focus in those who have ADHD compared to those who don't have it experience the opposite.

Of course the web site was called truthonpot.com so I took it with a lot of salt. :v:

Although that does explain why the electrician who worked on the same job with me once told me about how he can't focus or work without pot.

[June]

[QUOTE=LtKyle2;49141745]Marijuana studies are hard to believe with all the contradicting conclusions.

I was looking up study aids since I have problems focusing and concentrating on what's in front of me and that my mind jumps from one thought to another, and I stumbled onto a medical article that stated the THC in marijuana increases focus in those who have ADHD compared to those who don't have it experience the opposite.

Of course the web site was called truthonpot.com so I took it with a lot of salt. :v:

Although that does explain why the electrician who worked on the same job with me once told me about how he can't focus or work without pot.[/QUOTE]

Most people don't realize that different strains of marijuana can have totally different effects. one of the reasons legalization will be so cool is you'll be able to find a strain that gives exactly the kind of high you're looking for, rather than buying off a dealer who probably has no idea what strain they have in stock

[27X]

THC most definitely has effects on ADHD and bipolar disorder.

I'm curious as to how they vetted these participants through their lifestyle.

[Zero-Point]

[QUOTE=June;49141787]Most people don't realize that different strains of marijuana can have totally different effects. one of the reasons legalization will be so cool is you'll be able to find a strain that gives exactly the kind of high you're looking for, rather than buying off a dealer who probably has no idea what strain they have in stock[/QUOTE]

That sucks ass when that happens, too.
"Got any chronic?"
"Hell yeah, some good shit, too!"
"Sweet! What strain is it?"
"I dunno man, shit, I just smoke it and I like it!"
It's like buying canned soup with the label missing: You know it's soup, but you have no idea if it was worth buying until it's too late.

[Kube]

[QUOTE=June;49141787]Most people don't realize that different strains of marijuana can have totally different effects. one of the reasons legalization will be so cool is you'll be able to find a strain that gives exactly the kind of high you're looking for, rather than buying off a dealer who probably has no idea what strain they have in stock[/QUOTE]

I had no idea there were different strains or different kinds of high.

NJ legislative is having some talks about marijuana and legalizing it for recreational use, although it will be a long battle with Christ Christie firmly against it, calling it gateway drug and whatnot and that tax money made off of it is "blood money".

[Sableye]

[QUOTE=Zero-Point;49142762]That suck ass when that happens, too.
"Got any chronic?"
"Hell yeah, some good shit, too!"
"Sweet! What strain is it?"
"I dunno man, shit, I just smoke it and I like it!"
It's like buying canned soup with the label missing: You know it's soup, but you have no idea if it was worth buying until it's too late.[/QUOTE]

"Oh god I think I'm smoking ministroni! Fuck I wanted chronic not ministroni god damnit!"

The image of people putting soup cans into bongs is funny enough

[Zenreon]

Shits like magic. My metabolism is so fast that I already processed tommorow's breakfast.

[Lord of Boxes]

[QUOTE=Kabstrac;49143309]Or how about get off your ass and exercise and make/eat some wholesome food instead?[/QUOTE]

Why not both?

[HumanAbyss]

[QUOTE=Kabstrac;49143309]Or how about get off your ass and exercise and make/eat some wholesome food instead?[/QUOTE]

What about smoking weed precludes one from enjoying wholesome food or exercise? The two biggest pot heads I know, one of who is a giant Adonis like man with an actual body builders physique, and the other is an incredible cook.

I don't see how one thing stops you from doing other things.

[0x0000000C]

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;49143333]and the other is an incredible cook.[/QUOTE]
Must be great producing your own munchies remedy.

I always end up eating raw shit.

[Invadernouga]

I don't understand how people can argue marijuana as a viable treatment method for things like ADHD. It's like, yeah great man maybe you can concentrate better? But guess what you can't do? Drive a car, go to work, operate machinery, use firearms etc. People think Marijuana is this fucking magical cure to everything and truth be told I'm sure it does help with a lot of things...but what's the point?

[teslacoil]

[QUOTE=InvaderNouga;49143411]I don't understand how people can argue marijuana as a viable treatment method for things like ADHD. It's like, yeah great man maybe you can concentrate better? But guess what you can't do? Drive a car, go to work, operate machinery, use firearms etc. People think Marijuana is this fucking magical cure to everything and truth be told I'm sure it does help with a lot of things...but what's the point?[/QUOTE]

Once you have a substantial tolerance to psychoactive cannabinoids, or take non-psychoactive medicinal cannabinoids, that isn't a problem.

Is driving/using heavy machinery on amphetamines any better?

[Invadernouga]

[QUOTE=CoilingTesla;49143428]Once you have a substantial tolerance to psychoactive cannabinoids, or take non-psychoactive medicinal cannabinoids, that isn't a problem.

Is driving/using heavy machinery on amphetamines any better?[/QUOTE]

Yes, since medication like Adderall or derivitives like methylphenidate do not have intoxicating effects like Marijuana does. That argument is tired, old, debunked.

[teslacoil]

[QUOTE=InvaderNouga;49143462]Yes, since medication like Adderall or derivitives like methylphenidate do not have intoxicating effects like Marijuana does. That argument is tired, old, debunked.[/QUOTE]

Have you taken either?

[Mugofdoom]

[QUOTE=InvaderNouga;49143411]I don't understand how people can argue marijuana as a viable treatment method for things like ADHD. It's like, yeah great man maybe you can concentrate better? But guess what you can't do? Drive a car, go to work, operate machinery, use firearms etc. People think Marijuana is this fucking magical cure to everything and truth be told I'm sure it does help with a lot of things...but what's the point?[/QUOTE]

Cannabis is by far one of the least debilitating psychoactive drugs there is. You are massively overstating the impact it has on one's ability to function normally.

Besides, I'd say the same damn thing about Amphetamine and Methylphenidate.

[Invadernouga]

[QUOTE=mugofdoom;49143490]Cannabis is by far one of the least debilitating psychoactive drugs there is. You are massively overstating the impact it has on one's ability to function normally.

Besides, I'd say the same damn thing about Amphetamine and Methylphenidate.[/QUOTE]

You've never taken either medication if you think the two are comparable.

[editline]19th November 2015[/editline]

[QUOTE=CoilingTesla;49143479]Have you taken either?[/QUOTE]

Yes? Have you? I take methylphenidate currently and spoiler alert, I work at a Hospital, in Psychiatry.

[editline]19th November 2015[/editline]

I'm not anti marijuana in the slighest, I loved smoking weed when I was a civilian but let's call a spade a spade here and say Marijuana's primary purpose is to get you high.

[editline]19th November 2015[/editline]

I can see the new Doctors pads in your guys world. Kid comes into Psychiatry and the Doctor says, "Ah yes! I will prescribe you one fat bong rip per day, to be taken before school. That should help you concentrate"

[Mugofdoom]

[QUOTE=InvaderNouga;49143505]You've never taken either medication if you think the two are comparable.[/QUOTE]

I have taken both on numerous occasions and I have had numerous accounts of panic attacks and crippling anxiety while using them, which is exactly why I will never touch neither Amphetamine nor Methylphenidate with a ten foot pole. It's also the reason why I say that cannabis is a far safer option and far less debilitating. I feel safer driving a car on cannabis than even 10-15mg of Amphetamine. Methylphenidate feels like a heart attack waiting to happen, and though I am aware it is not known to be cardiotoxic, it's not exactly easy to go about your daily routine when your heart is jack-hammering out of your chest.

If you actually do work in psychiatry then you of all people should realize that not every individual reacts to medications in the same way. To say that drugs like methylphenidate and amphetamine do not have side effects which could render one unable to operate machinery while cannabis does without backing up any of your claims is not how you go about proving a point.

[quote]I can see the new Doctors pads in your guys world. Kid comes into Psychiatry and the Doctor says, "Ah yes! I will prescribe you one fat bong rip per day, to be taken before school. That should help you concentrate" [/quote]

Now you're just being an ass. As someone who works at a hospital you should be entirely open to the idea of advancements in medication, not blindly forming opinions on them based on negative stereotypes.

[isak]

[QUOTE=mugofdoom;49143672]I have taken both on numerous occasions and I have had numerous accounts of panic attacks and crippling anxiety while using them, which is exactly why I will never touch neither Amphetamine nor Methylphenidate with a ten foot pole. It's also the reason why I say that cannabis is a far safer option and far less debilitating. I feel safer driving a car on cannabis than even 10-15mg of Amphetamine. Methylphenidate feels like a heart attack waiting to happen, and though I am aware it is not known to be cardiotoxic, it's not exactly easy to go about your daily routine when your heart is jack-hammering out of your chest.

If you actually do work in psychiatry then you of all people should realize that not every individual reacts to medications in the same way. To say that drugs like methyphenidate and amphetamine do not have side effects which could render one unable to operate machinery while cannabis does without backing up any of your claims is not how you go about proving a point.

Now you're just being an ass. As someone who works at a hospital you should be entirely open to the idea of advancements in medication, not blindly forming opinions on them based on negative stereotypes.[/QUOTE]

I'm also ADHD. I've also taken Methylphenidate and Amphetamines, plus Vyvanse. The nervous sweats and jitteriness I got from it were far more worrying to me driving than being slightly buzzed. I would hyperfocus on specific parts of driving and be unable to focus on the whole. I'd focus on specific spots on the road instead of using my peripheral vision to properly drive safely. I'd actually speed way more often.

I've had crippling anxiety attacks from sleep deprivation + ADHD medication and I'd rather be driving next to someone slightly high than I would next to someone scatterbrained and hyperfocused on minor things from ADHD meds. I would neglect to check my mirrors, I'd spend far too much time changing songs rather than looking at the road because it would demand more attention, etc.

Cannabis is not my drug of choice - I get anxious on it anyways - but it's far preferable to the anxiety and jitteriness I got from ADHD meds. I can barely stomach an amphetamine high anymore, and I use my methylphenidate maybe once a month to cram papers and I still feel like my heart is going to burst and I end up overthinking myself into a depressive rut almost every time I do take it.

[Invadernouga]

[QUOTE=mugofdoom;49143672]I have taken both on numerous occasions and I have had numerous accounts of panic attacks and crippling anxiety while using them, which is exactly why I will never touch neither Amphetamine nor Methylphenidate with a ten foot pole. It's also the reason why I say that cannabis is a far safer option and far less debilitating. I feel safer driving a car on cannabis than even 10-15mg of Amphetamine. Methylphenidate feels like a heart attack waiting to happen, and though I am aware it is not known to be cardiotoxic, it's not exactly easy to go about your daily routine when your heart is jack-hammering out of your chest.

If you actually do work in psychiatry then you of all people should realize that not every individual reacts to medications in the same way. To say that drugs like methyphenidate and amphetamine do not have side effects which could render one unable to operate machinery while cannabis does without backing up any of your claims is not how you go about proving a point.

Now you're just being an ass. As someone who works at a hospital you should be entirely open to the idea of advancements in medication, not blindly forming opinions on them based on negative stereotypes.[/QUOTE]

You're severely misguided kid. You know how I know you're a kid? Because you don't see a problem with driving under the influence of a psychoactive substance. Wait until that shit kicks you in the ass, it really won't feel good answering to law enforcement that "Well ya see Officer Adderall just gives me too much gosh darn Anxiety that's why I get high and drive".

[zukriuchen]

[QUOTE=InvaderNouga;49143505]I'm not anti marijuana in the slighest, I loved smoking weed when I was a civilian but let's call a spade a spade here and say Marijuana's primary purpose is to get you high.
[/QUOTE]

aint that why theyre trying to make strains with less of the intoxicating substances and more of the stuff that helps you

[editline]19th November 2015[/editline]

or am i completely wrong on this

[J Paul]

[QUOTE=InvaderNouga;49143728]You're severely misguided kid. You know how I know you're a kid? Because you don't see a problem with driving under the influence of a psychoactive substance. Wait until that shit kicks you in the ass, it really won't feel good answering to law enforcement that "Well ya see Officer Adderall just gives me too much gosh darn Anxiety that's why I get high and drive".[/QUOTE]

The cop who takes you in for driving on pot will probably also be the same cop who will say you shouldn't be driving on adderall either.

Also yeah, someone disagrees with your opinion, they must surely be a kid. You've got great arguments and you don't seem a bit biased at all.

[Mugofdoom]

[QUOTE=InvaderNouga;49143728]You're severely misguided kid. You know how I know you're a kid? Because you don't see a problem with driving under the influence of a psychoactive substance. Wait until that shit kicks you in the ass, it really won't feel good answering to law enforcement that "Well ya see Officer Adderall just gives me too much gosh darn Anxiety that's why I get high and drive".[/QUOTE]

You're not even trying to have a discussion anymore, you're just blindly insulting me.

With all due respect, you should rethink your Methylphenidate use. Stimulants are known to bring out anger and aggression in users.

[Killer900]

[QUOTE=InvaderNouga;49143505]
I can see the new Doctors pads in your guys world. Kid comes into Psychiatry and the Doctor says, "Ah yes! I will prescribe you one fat bong rip per day, to be taken before school. That should help you concentrate"[/QUOTE]Wow man way to over-exaggerate, what a terrible argument.

[QUOTE=InvaderNouga;49143728][B]You're severely misguided kid. You know how I know you're a kid? Because you don't see a problem with driving under the influence of a psychoactive substance.[/B] Wait until that shit kicks you in the ass, it really won't feel good answering to law enforcement that "Well ya see Officer Adderall just gives me too much gosh darn Anxiety that's why I get high and drive".[/QUOTE]lol very mature

[Zenreon]

[QUOTE=InvaderNouga;49143728]You're severely misguided kid. You know how I know you're a kid? Because you don't see a problem with [B]driving under the influence of a psychoactive substance.[/B] Wait until that shit kicks you in the ass, it really won't feel good answering to law enforcement that "Well ya see Officer Adderall just gives me too much gosh darn Anxiety that's why I get high and drive".[/QUOTE]

IDK man.

[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dw1HavgoK9E[/media]

Too high to drive is possible. But the limits vary and any reasonable person can tell if they are "too high". It is a difficult issue because I and the girl in the above video can take a toke or two and be absolutely fine driving. (I don't drive because I don't like to, and don't want to break the law) Even someone who has nearly never smoke could be alright after a toke. But reactions vary. If it is your first time you shouldn't be driving right after anyways, just like any new substance.

2nd video; Disregard the bullshit test at the end of the video, the rest is pretty interesting.

In a nutshell: Pain medication has no ingested limits, advocates say it should follow the same reasoning because you need an invasive blood test to properly contest someone's impairment past any obvious signs.

[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiBvFZFrTCQ[/media]

[Invadernouga]

[QUOTE=J Paul;49143847]The cop who takes you in for driving on pot will probably also be the same cop who will say you shouldn't be driving on adderall either.

Also yeah, someone disagrees with your opinion, they must surely be a kid. You've got great arguments and you don't seem a bit biased at all.[/QUOTE]

Disagreeing with my opinion doesn't make you a kid, willfully driving under the influence of Marijuana makes you an irresponsible child. Not to mention your comparisons of Adderall to Marijuana are ridiculous; Adderall is a widely accepted treatment for ADHD and does not usually cause slowed reaction times or disorganized thinking which is why it's safe to operate a vehicle with. Yall need to pick up a Nursing Drug Reference some time, you might learn something.

[editline]19th November 2015[/editline]

[QUOTE=mugofdoom;49143851]You're not even trying to have a discussion anymore, you're just blindly insulting me.

With all due respect, you should rethink your Methylphenidate use. Stimulants are known to bring out anger and aggression in users.[/QUOTE]

I really hope you one day realize how irresponsible driving under the influence is. There's a reason why it's illegal in most states (wow surprise.) If you won't do it for yourself at least do it for the other people on the road.

[TCB]

i've met loads of irresponsible kids driving vehicles on drugs they're usually about 6-7 but they can be a bit younger too sometimes

[editline]19th November 2015[/editline]

you're just assuming people don't know what they're talking about and using the fact that they haven't read fuckin nursing books as an excuse to be condescending

i mean i get that you've transcended the realm of civilians but that's not much of a reason to make such broad assumptions, you're just spitting out textbook info

[Invadernouga]

Like I said, I like to get as high as the next guy but I won't kid myself into believing that it's a viable day to day treatment option for psychiatric issues or that it's safe to drive on the road with it.

[editline]19th November 2015[/editline]

[QUOTE=TCB;49144318]i've met loads of irresponsible kids driving vehicles on drugs they're usually about 6-7 but they can be a bit younger too sometimes

[editline]19th November 2015[/editline]

you're just assuming people don't know what they're talking about and using the fact that they haven't read fuckin nursing books as an excuse to be condescending

i mean i get that you've transcended the realm of civilians but that's not much of a reason to make such broad assumptions, you're just spitting out textbook info[/QUOTE]

I've worked in Mental Health for over 5 years and Substance Abuse for the last year. My job also revolves around me knowing everything about the human body. I have a lot of experience treating substance abuse and mental illness, so I like to think I know what I'm talking about.

[TCB]

but there are plenty of people that genuinely do use it for positive reasons other than "get blazed lol"? i mean i've met doctors who have said that in some cases the positives outweigh the negatives, which is what it's all about, case-by-case reactions. it doesn't work for everyone and not everyone will use it as a form of "medication" and that's completely fine; some people choose to use whatever ~treatment~ they want, who are you to question that (let alone dispel it)? sure, you've probably read galen's finest because you're a fuckin nurse or whatever but how can you assess an individual's (who you haven't met) situation better than said individual?

yeah you've got experience in medicine, so you're "qualified" to say these things, but you're not the only one who knows anything about any of this, i mean a year of learning about other people abusing drugs doesn't hold much weight to people that have actually spent huge portions of their lives following (and agreeing with) these treatments. the point still stands, medical experience doesn't automatically give you the right to dismiss people as "kids who are kidding themselves" just because they believe in a treatment that you don't

[editline]19th November 2015[/editline]

i'm not belittling whatever knowledge you might have on this subject, more pointing out that this is as much about the individual as it is about the specific branch of medicine that relates to all this. it works for some people, and it doesn't work for others, call it placebo if you want but if it makes life easier for some people then what's the problem?