• Would you rather live in a patriarchy or matriarchy?
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Patriarchy is often known as the 'Rule by Men', which came to rise in the more "modern" ages. In the past few centuries, men have been the leaders politically and in the workforce. We all already know how Patriarchy works. It's opposite, Matriarchy, is called 'Rule by Woman'. Where woman hold the political leader positions and inheritance and descent are traced through the female line and are generally the head of a household. However, in "feminist theory" it is considered egalitarian. Here is a example of a modern "matriarchal" society today; [URL]http://news.softpedia.com/news/Mosuo-One-of-the-Last-Matriarchal-Societies-36321.shtml[/URL]. Although it's more "matrilineal" then actually "matriarchal", fathers can only visit their kids and have little to no involvement in their child's upbringing and woman are the head of the households. Fathers at most are 'gene donors', upside is they get to have casual sex all the time and don't have to worry about taking care of kids. Woman decide what happens in the households. Marriage is kind of non existent. (Note: This counts only for the first link I posted. Not all are the same.) Some more info on matriarchal societies; [URL]http://www.saunalahti.fi/penelope/Feminism/KhasiGaro.html[/URL] Basically polar opposites, although some feminists would argue that a matriarchy is more "equal". So I ask you, Facepunch, which would you rather live in? I'm probably going to be banned for not having enough info.
I don't know, I've never experienced either. though not being able to be with my kids is pretty shitty sounding.
A combination of both lol
Patriarchy.
-snip- whoops I'm going to have to go with Patriarchy. That is what society has used for the longest, and it works out rather well.
people will be assholes it doesn't matter what you have between your legs/self identify, patriarchy, matriarchy, it doesn't really matter. my grandma is just as cheap and stubborn as my grandfather so even with him unable to be the "head" of the family anymore, my grandmother does the same stuff he did [editline]25th June 2013[/editline] patriarchy though as its what works and seeing how femanists are just as bad if not worse than the sexist guys they attack, I'd rather stick with what works for western society
This thread seems like its of a bait thread, especially how the OP is misrepresenting feminism and how the term matriarchy is used in feminism.
id rather live in a world where men and women are equals
I'm a SWM so patriarchy, older dudes can look like bosses, older women are eww
matriarchy 100%
Most obviously I'd like to live in a balance between the two. Both too many women or too many men means that the standards and opinions of one gender will overshadow the other. However if I had no other choice, since I'm a male I'd rather live under patriarchy. I've spent 3 years in a class of 20 women and 3 guys, and I've previously worked with elderly care which is pretty much a female dominated profession. From these experiences I can say that I do not feel at home in these type of environments. Our difference in interests made it harder to make friends, I was trusted less than my female coworkers with certain tasks, and it just felt like people took less consideration to my advice and opinions. So yeah, after that I decided I'd rather work in an industrial environment.
A patriarchy would be better simply because I'm male, that's a no-brainer really I've never experienced either so I can't really say.
Wait, we can choose other? Mixture of both then.
Well I would assume this answer would depend upon your sex. A male, like me would probably prefer to live in a patriarchy where he would have more power and benefits. This is simply acting in self interest. The downside of having this power though is more responsibility. Arguing that a matriarchy is more equal than a patriarchy makes no sense. Upholding either gender as more valuable or providing a gender a privileged status is unequal. It doesn't matter if its men having more of the power or women having more of the power. Its unequal.
Patriarchy doesn't sound to bad to try out, from the few buddies I have that have visited places like Saudi Arabia and whatnot, they say it's pretty awesome. You basically live like a prince and the chicks act really well behaved and shit around there. Shitty deal for chicks there technically, but it's an interesting novelty.
Matriarchy. Women were meant to rule.
[QUOTE=NicoleEmilid;41193580]Matriarchy. Women were meant to rule.[/QUOTE] They can rule my kitchen (i hope you're not serious, because i'm not, and what I just said is just as stupid as what you've just said) Whether or not a person is meant to rule should not be determined by what parts they were born with, but by their own personal qualities that make them a good leader
[QUOTE=Cureless;41193042]Patriarchy doesn't sound to bad to try out[/QUOTE] That would imply most, if not all, countries aren't patriarchs. [QUOTE=Laserbeams;41193599]Whether or not a person is meant to rule should not be determined by what parts they were born with, but by their own personal qualities that make them a good leader[/QUOTE] Women are not only logical, but far less rash. We think things over while the men are so ready to go to war. If women ruled, we would less wars and less anguish. Things would get solved, instead of men comparing their cock size. Congress is a great example of this.
[QUOTE=NicoleEmilid;41193629]Women are not only logical, but far less rash. We think things over while the men are so ready to go to war. If women ruled, we would less wars and less anguish. Things would get solved, instead of men comparing their cock size. Congress is a great example of this.[/QUOTE] Have you ever been called a misandrist? Because that's what you are. You are implicitly implying that men are not good leaders, while women are, which is some prime, grade A bullshit. Geopolitical conflicts are more complicated than men comparing penis sizes. You are also implying that there are no women in congress
[QUOTE=Laserbeams;41193684]You are also implying that there are no women in congress[/QUOTE] Less than twenty percent. Too small to make a difference.
[QUOTE=NicoleEmilid;41193727]Less than twenty percent. Too small to make a difference.[/QUOTE] No, they don't make a difference because they have almost exactly the same mindset as the men in congress
[QUOTE=NicoleEmilid;41193629]Women are not only logical, but far less rash. We think things over while the men are so ready to go to war. If women ruled, we would less wars and less anguish. Things would get solved, instead of men comparing their cock size. Congress is a great example of this.[/QUOTE] I'm sorry, what? Can you back that up with any evidence, other than your current implicit "Men are in power, anything bad is because they're men"?
dont really care combination of both would be cool iges i just want to be able to live my life
Although I'd rather live in one that's equal between both genders, If I was forced to choose I would pick a Patriarchy as I'd live an easier life there.
I don't think there would be much of a difference, except maybe feminine things being seen as positive and masculine as negative. I'd probably prefer a matriarchy since unchecked masculinity can often lead to toxic behaviour and I can't see how unchecked femininity would do anything that bad. [QUOTE=Laserbeams;41192294]A patriarchy would be better simply because I'm male, that's a no-brainer really I've never experienced either so I can't really say.[/QUOTE] You currently live in a patriarchal society.
[QUOTE=Shadaez;41199912]You currently live in a patriarchal society.[/QUOTE] It's your opinion, not a fact, stop saying that like it is. Maybe some ass-backwards countries are patriarchal, but Ukraine isn't, and the USA sure as all fuck isn't [QUOTE=Shadaez;41199912]I don't think there would be much of a difference, except maybe feminine things being seen as positive and masculine as negative. I'd probably prefer a matriarchy since unchecked masculinity can often lead to toxic behaviour and I can't see how unchecked femininity would do anything that bad..[/QUOTE] My unchecked masculinity has never harmed anyone. Neither patriarchy nor matriarchy is better for humanity as a whole. Any argument that states otherwise is misogynistic or misandric, respectively. Oppression of one sex will not solve the problems caused by oppression of the other, women can be just as cruel, bloodthirsty and war-mongering as men, the only possible arguments against this statement are obvious "biotruth" bullshit
[QUOTE=NicoleEmilid;41193629]That would imply most, if not all, countries aren't patriarchs. Women are not only logical, but far less rash. We think things over while the men are so ready to go to war. If women ruled, we would less wars and less anguish. Things would get solved, instead of men comparing their cock size. Congress is a great example of this.[/QUOTE] women are also apparently conceited and self absorbed, judging from your post [QUOTE=Shadaez;41199912]I don't think there would be much of a difference, except maybe feminine things being seen as positive and masculine as negative. I'd probably prefer a matriarchy since unchecked masculinity can often lead to toxic behaviour and I can't see how unchecked femininity would do anything that bad. You currently live in a patriarchal society.[/QUOTE] No, we do not live in a patriarchal society. Women arguable have more power than men in the US.
[QUOTE=katbug;41200409]No, we do not live in a patriarchal society. Women arguable have more power than men in the US.[/QUOTE] So then what about for example, congress? [url]http://www.senate.gov/reference/resources/pdf/R41647.pdf[/url] only about 17% of the members 112th congress was composed of women.
Matriarchy
[QUOTE=Laserbeams;41199968]It's your opinion, not a fact, stop saying that like it is. Maybe some ass-backwards countries are patriarchal, but Ukraine isn't, and the USA sure as all fuck isn't My unchecked masculinity has never harmed anyone. Neither patriarchy nor matriarchy is better for humanity as a whole. Any argument that states otherwise is misogynistic or misandric, respectively. Oppression of one sex will not solve the problems caused by oppression of the other, women can be just as cruel, bloodthirsty and war-mongering as men, the only possible arguments against this statement are obvious "biotruth" bullshit[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=katbug;41200409]women are also apparently conceited and self absorbed, judging from your post No, we do not live in a patriarchal society. Women arguable have more power than men in the US.[/QUOTE] so the US, where the majority of the rulers are male isn't a Patriarchy (aka male is the primary authority figure)? It's a fact, sorry.
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