• Donald Trump has called for the Department of Education to be eliminated
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[QUOTE] During his campaign, President-elect Donald Trump repeatedly hit at the role of federal government in education, arguing instead for increased local control of schools. He has also hinted that the Department of Education should be abolished. "A lot of people believe the Department of Education should just be eliminated. Get rid of it. If we don't eliminate it completely, we certainly need to cut its power and reach," he wrote in his book "Great Again: How to Fix Our Crippled America." The education department was created in 1979 through the Department of Education Organization Act passed by Congress. The department's main functions include administering federal assistance to schools and enforcing federal education laws. It seems Trump does indeed have the constitutional ability to shutter the department for good, assuming he has the support of Congress. [/QUOTE] [url]http://www.businessinsider.com/how-donald-trump-could-eliminate-the-department-of-education-2016-11[/url]
Lost for words. I don't know if it would be a good idea or a bad idea, so it's an idea?
[I]the ride never ends[/I]
Dep of Education definitely needs a reform but abolishing it entirely is probably a terrible idea.
[QUOTE=BusinessRed;51355152]Lost for words. I don't know if it would be a good idea or a bad idea, so it's an idea?[/QUOTE] It's a libertarian wet dream, that's for sure. It'd save a lot of money but it'd make things so much worse for public education and Pell grant recipients.
Better delete something that doesn't work and redo it.
He relied on the uneducated to get elected though
Never understood why education is a federal jurisdiction in the U.S., maybe that's because I'm Canadian.
[quote]"A lot of people believe the Department of Education should just be eliminated. Get rid of it. If we don't eliminate it completely, we certainly need to cut its power and reach"[/quote] [I]He's not saying he's going to eliminate it[/I] He's saying that [I]some people[/I] are saying it should just go. And then says that if they [I]don't[/I] cut it, they're going to heavily modify it.
Privatizing schools is the worst that could happen to our children at the moment. Imagine going to school for all of your early childhood and once you reach 18, you have to pay off all of it. We would be a third world country if that happens. This is beyond retarded. Poor can't afford schools so they dont get educated. With our jobs at the moment with the requirements, No one poor can get a job. I cannot handle this.
Yes let's start the education divide in preschool and take it all the way to the top. This is going to create such lopsided problems and likely lead to what could be considered indoctrination if there are no federal standards on what can't be thrown into the minds of kids.
[QUOTE=TheFilmSlacker;51355167]Out of all the fucking things you could ever cut education[/QUOTE] To be fair, it's a department created in 1979 that has been the source of much ridicule and money-pitting over the decades.
[QUOTE=S31-Syntax;51355176][I]He's not saying he's going to eliminate it[/I] He's saying that [I]some people[/I] are saying it should just go. And then says that if they [I]don't[/I] cut it, they're going to heavily modify it.[/QUOTE]Yeah but I won't get as many clicks on my article and therefore won't get a lot of ad revenue if I title it a certain way.
[QUOTE=S31-Syntax;51355176][I]He's not saying he's going to eliminate it[/I] He's saying that [I]some people[/I] are saying it should just go. And then says that if they [I]don't[/I] cut it,[B] they're going to heavily modify it.[/B][/QUOTE] by making it worse [QUOTE]we certainly need to cut its power and reach[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=lxmach1;51355192]by making it worse[/QUOTE] I don't care if you criticize him, but just do it properly.
being forced to pay for education is fucking criminally terrible just needing to pay for a small college is bad enough
This isn't news. He said this months ago. You can't just make a new thread for every policy position he has stated just because he got elected now. Wake me up when he says/does something new.
"Don't worry guys, you're overreacting, Trump's presidency won't be [I]that[/I] bad" 3 days later
[QUOTE=Chaitin;51355174]Never understood why education is a federal jurisdiction in the U.S., maybe that's because I'm Canadian.[/QUOTE] It isn't. [I]Read the article[/I].
[QUOTE=Grindigo;51355171]Better delete something that doesn't work and redo it.[/QUOTE] Has said nothing about redoing anything, had own school closed for sucking.
[QUOTE=Minimal;51355180]Privatizing schools is the worst that could happen to our children at the moment. Imagine going to school for all of your early childhood and once you reach 18, you have to pay off all of it. We would be a third world country if that happens. This is beyond retarded. Poor can't afford schools so they dont get educated. With our jobs at the moment with the requirements, No one poor can get a job. I cannot handle this.[/QUOTE] This has nothing to do with privatizing schools. It just moves the power to the states. I've worked in my local school district at a fairly high level dealing with Ed. Code application and the like. Federal involvement gets in the way in basically every single way.
[QUOTE=ElectricSquid;51355214]"Don't worry guys, you're overreacting, Trump's presidency won't be [I]that[/I] bad" 3 days later[/QUOTE] Oh my god. [I]Read the article before posting.[/I] Isn't this bannable?
Something about Ben "The pyramids were grain silos" Carson becoming secretary of the DoE while it's still around foreshadows his intentions Even if he cannot manage it he'll still fuck it up as much as he can manage
This seems a bit like a sensationalist headline, he said to abolish the department in his campaign but it's nowhere in his 100 day plan. All the article is talking about is [I]how[/I] he could do it, not if he is still doing it.
[QUOTE=FlandersNed;51355228]This seems a bit like a sensationalist headline, he said to abolish the department in his campaign but it's nowhere in his 100 day plan. All the article is talking about is [I]how[/I] he could do it, not if he is still doing it.[/QUOTE] Exactly. The only "news" here is a journalist at Business Insider speculating on things.
[QUOTE=Pantz Master;51355219]It isn't. [I]Read the article[/I].[/QUOTE] The article didn't answer my question.
[QUOTE=Pantz Master;51355223]Oh my god. [I]Read the article before posting.[/I] Isn't this bannable?[/QUOTE] Its bannable to backseat moderate. More things coming to light about what trump wants? How is this not reading the article?
This just in: Screaming maniac president elect continues to be horrible.
[QUOTE=Map in a box;51355244]Its bannable to backseat moderate. More things coming to light about what trump wants? How is this not reading the article?[/QUOTE] Nothing is coming to light. He said this months ago. Now people are reacting as if Trump has said this recently, therefore revealing that [I]they didn't read the article.[/I] [editline]11th November 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Chaitin;51355243]The article didn't answer my question.[/QUOTE] Even the snippet in the OP answers your question: [quote]The education department was created in 1979 through the Department of Education Organization Act passed by Congress. The department's main functions include administering federal assistance to schools and enforcing federal education laws. It seems Trump does indeed have the constitutional ability to shutter the department for good, [B]assuming he has the support of Congress.[/B][/quote] And this was also in the article: [quote]"It would of course require another act of Congress to eliminate the United States Department of Education," Harvard legal scholar Laurence Tribe told Business Insider in 2015.[/quote] [quote]"No president could eliminate the department unilaterally, by executive order or otherwise," Tribe said.[/quote]
[QUOTE=Pantz Master;51355248] Even the snippet in the OP answers your question: And this was also in the article:[/QUOTE] Uh I don't know how does that answer my question? I'm asking why is there an education department at the federal level in the first place, because I find it a weird concept (here in Canada there is no such thing). But anyway I found my answer by doing a little research on its history and the U.S. constitution.
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