• Iran urges to destroy all atomic weapons after N. Korea nuclear test.
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[QUOTE]Iran has confirmed that its higher-grade enriched uranium is being converted into reactor fuel, an Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesperson announced. He also called for destruction of all nuclear arms following N. Korea's third nuclear test. "We need to come to the point where no country has any nuclear weapons and at the same time all weapons of mass destruction and nuclear arms need to be destroyed," Foreign Ministry spokesperson Ramin Mehmanparast told state news agency IRNA. However, countries should have the right to "make use of nuclear activities for peaceful purposes," he added. Speaking in Moscow, Iran's foreign minister Ali Akbar Salehi also said that North Korea as a sovereign state had its right to carry out a nuclear test. "North Korea, as far as I know, is not signatory to Non-Proliferation Treaty, so it can afford acting according to its own interests," Salehi told journalists. Pyongyang withdrew from the NPT in 2003 to protest accusations of launching an enriched uranium weapons program. Salehi added that Iran is not considering quitting the treaty. 'Iran converting 20 percent enriched uranium into reactor fuel' Referring to recent media reports that Iran had already converted some of its 20-percent-enriched uranium into fuel for the Tehran Research Reactor, Mehmanparast said that “this work is being done and all its reports have been sent to the International Atomic Energy Agency in a complete manner.” The spokesperson added that Iran is ready to allow nuclear inspectors to visit their Parchin military site, providing world powers recognize Tehran's right to enrich uranium. The International Atomic Energy Agency, the UN's nuclear watchdog, believes Iran might be using Parchin to develop nuclear weapons. The press conference comes after an AP report on Monday alleging that Iran had begun to convert some of its existing nuclear material, which could potentially be used in weapons, into another form. The material is in amounts large enough to feed concerns about its atomic program, according to anonymous sources quoted by AP. Shortly after the report emerged, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu claimed once again that Tehran is drawing close to a “red line,” telling visiting American Jewish leaders that Iran must be stopped. He also urged stronger pressure and further sanctions on the Islamic Republic. Last September, Netanyahu called on the UN General Assembly to stop Iran from acquiring a nuclear weapon. The West has repeatedly insisted that Iran is developing atomic weapons and imposed several rounds of sanctions against Tehran targeting its oil and banking sectors. Experts fear that Iran could have enough 20-percent uranium for a bomb by the summer, if enrichment continues. The 20-percent material is technically only a step away from weapons-grade uranium. However, the substance can also be used for peaceful purposes and Iran insists that their nuclear program is designed to meet the country's growing energy and medical needs. Converting enriched uranium into fuel is also one of the ways for Tehran to slow the growth in its stockpile of material that could be used to make a bomb. Iran is expecting a new offer from world powers in international nuclear talks which are deemed to take place in late February in Kazakhstan, a member of its negotiating team said on Monday. Iran and the P5+1 group (the US, UK, Russia, China, France and Germany) are to resume negotiations after an eight-month break, following up three failed meetings previous year. Their last meeting in Moscow yielded no breakthrough as Iran rejected calls from the group to suspend part of its program and asked for a substantial sanctions relief in return. On February 26, P-5+1 group will meet with Iran as part of routine summit in Kazakhstan. The talks are expected to focus on Iran's controversial nuclear program. Moscow intends to bring up the issue of Tehran’s reluctance to comply with UNSC demands and freeze its uranium enrichment. [url]http://rt.com/news/iran-uranium-enriched-fuel-005/[/url][/QUOTE] Iran strong.
Good words, pity they're probably lies
You'd be making a mistake of monumental naivety if you took such declarations at face value. The official 'public' policy of Pakistan—also an Islamic state—was the same throughout the 1980s and 1990s. They denied the existence of a weapons program, said it was against Islam, labelled accusations of a weapons program as "Western imperialism", and steadfastly reasserted their right to develop "peaceful nuclear technology". I don't need to tell you how that story ended. In fact, this approach to nuclear rhetoric is standard for most states covertly developing nuclear weapons. They deny the existence of a program, claim their dual-use technology is solely for peaceful purposes, claim themselves the victim of imperialism, and cry claims of hypocrisy. I'm not claiming that Iran is developing weapons. I don't know if they are and neither do you. My point is that it's naive to simply trust the word of Iranian officials.
Okay then. You first.
[QUOTE=Kinversulath;39562013]Okay then. You first.[/QUOTE] Iran doesn't have nukes.
Haha yeah right...
[QUOTE=Glorbo;39562003]You'd be making a mistake of monumental naivety if you took such declarations at face value. The official 'public' policy of Pakistan—also an Islamic state—was the same throughout the 1980s and 1990s. They denied the existence of a weapons program, said it was against Islam, labelled accusations of a weapons program as "Western imperialism", and steadfastly reasserted their right to develop "peaceful nuclear technology". I don't need to tell you how that story ended. In fact, this approach to nuclear rhetoric is standard for most states covertly developing nuclear weapons. They deny the existence of a program, claim their dual-use technology is solely for peaceful purposes, claim themselves the victim of imperialism, and cry claims of hypocrisy. I'm not claiming that Iran is developing weapons. I don't know if they are and neither do you. My point is that it's naive to simply trust the word of Iranian officials.[/QUOTE] Absolutely not true. If you knew the slightest thing about the Pakistani-Indian conflict, you'd know that Pakistan has always made their intentions to acquire nukes, along with India. They didn't deny it. They were quite boastful of their developments. This is just a poorly made attempt to say that since Pakistan also denied it, it means Iran is developing nukes, except that Pakistan never denied it. [B]EDIT:[/B] Its important to note that you probably shouldn't plagiarize off a Reddit comment. You literally carbon copied an entire bullshit Reddit comment onto Facepunch. Well done.
Can't trust the world's countries to destroy their nukes. They've been invented and we now have hundreds of thousands of them. They're here to stay.
Glorbo, get fucking wrecked.
Norway is it ever going to happen.
[QUOTE=Starpluck;39562145]Absolutely not true. If you knew the slightest thing about the Pakistani-Indian conflict, you'd know that Pakistan has always made their intentions to acquire nukes, along with India. They didn't deny it. They were quite boastful of their developments. This is just a poorly made attempt to say that since Pakistan also denied it, it means Iran is developing nukes, except that Pakistan never denied it. [B]EDIT:[/B] Its important to note that you probably shouldn't plagiarize off a Reddit comment. You literally carbon copied an entire bullshit Reddit comment onto Facepunch. Well done.[/QUOTE] Glorbo™
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We will eventually kill ourselves with nukes oh well.
Give them to Iran, they'll destroy them for you.
[QUOTE=jamzzster;39563502]Norway is it ever going to happen.[/QUOTE] No.
[QUOTE=Glorbo;39562003]You'd be making a mistake of monumental naivety if you took such declarations at face value. The official 'public' policy of Pakistan—also an Islamic state—was the same throughout the 1980s and 1990s. They denied the existence of a weapons program, said it was against Islam, labelled accusations of a weapons program as "Western imperialism", and steadfastly reasserted their right to develop "peaceful nuclear technology". I don't need to tell you how that story ended. In fact, this approach to nuclear rhetoric is standard for most states covertly developing nuclear weapons. They deny the existence of a program, claim their dual-use technology is solely for peaceful purposes, claim themselves the victim of imperialism, and cry claims of hypocrisy. I'm not claiming that Iran is developing weapons. I don't know if they are and neither do you. My point is that it's naive to simply trust the word of Iranian officials.[/QUOTE] I don't know much about Iran but if someone tells you to destroy something you obviously shouldn't have then yeah maybe you should fucking listen it doesn't matter if Iran made nukes and lied, you should still listen. Seriously your logic is amazing.
They'll destroy their nukes by dropping them on some battlefield.
[QUOTE=hamar;39563530]We will eventually kill ourselves with nukes oh well.[/QUOTE] Honestly, if it didn't happen throughout all of the tension and the proxy-wars of the Cold War, there's even less of a chance of it happening now. We were literally [b]seconds[/b] away from chucking nukes at each other during the Cuban Missiles Crisis (read up, bitches:[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasili_Arkhipov[/url]), and even then we didn't push the button, nor did the Soviets.
Even though it may be what our government wants, Iran shouldn't pledge to not build their weapons just because NK has done a test -- that will make NK feel like they can control other countries now with nuclear threats...
Technically, setting them off destroys them! I bet that is what Iran really ment.
Iran is enriching up to slightly below 20% for research purposes (look up the Tehran reactor). This is [I]far[/I] below 90% that is needed for weapons. Saying they have nukes (or are even close to having them) is completely false.
Good. there is no need for nuclear weapons of any kind, at least until we have global scale wars with other races of alien life.
[QUOTE=ewitwins;39563968]Honestly, if it didn't happen throughout all of the tension and the proxy-wars of the Cold War, there's even less of a chance of it happening now. We were literally [b]seconds[/b] away from chucking nukes at each other during the Cuban Missiles Crisis (read up, bitches:[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasili_Arkhipov[/url]), and even then we didn't push the button, nor did the Soviets.[/QUOTE] The policy of using nukes those days were really silly. Instead of waiting out until the enemy military was pushing deep into your country and generally using them as absolutely last resort, just seeing russians moving their arsenal around was already enought to prepare for launching the nukes.
[QUOTE=ECrownofFire;39565030]Iran is enriching up to slightly below 20% for research purposes (look up the Tehran reactor). This is [I]far[/I] below 90% that is needed for weapons. Saying they have nukes (or are even close to having them) is completely false.[/QUOTE] Firstly, you'd have to prove that. Secondly, the equipment that is used to enrich it to 20% can easily be used to enrich it to 90%
You have to admit, they have a great sense of humor.
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