i like how she said " he said 'its just the internet, they're not real, they can't hurt you' "
he never said any of that in the video. he just said comments on the internet don't constitute harassment, and that if you're going to use it, understand what you're getting into and what the consequences are of participating in public discussion.
its pretty clear from after the interview, because she disagrees and doesn't get any agreement from him she didn't quite want to hear what he had to say considering she just made statements of him saying stuff, he himself said he didn't agree with, basically twisting his words after the interview.
I don't like the attitude of "turn it off" everyone deserves to be on the internet fuck the people that have to act like cunts on social media.
[QUOTE=SonicHitman;49623726]i like how she said " he said 'its just the internet, they're not real, they can't hurt you' "
he never said any of that in the video. he just said comments on the internet don't constitute harassment, and that if you're going to use it, understand what you're getting into and what the consequences are of participating in public discussion.
its pretty clear from after the interview, because she disagrees and doesn't get any agreement from him she didn't quite want to hear what he had to say considering she just made statements of him saying stuff, he himself said he didn't agree with.[/QUOTE]
"He makes a strong argument, but I [I]still[/I] disagree with him because [I]muh feelings![/I]"
Very immature of her, I must say.
[QUOTE=Pepsi-cola;49623736]I don't like the attitude of "turn it off" everyone deserves to be on the internet fuck the people that have to act like cunts on social media.[/QUOTE]
i'm sure that was directed to the people who sit on twitter all day and as he mentions "tweeting every 5 minutes". those types of people spend too much time on social media and usually take it way too seriously to the point where they have to make a rebuttals to every single tweet every single user makes and get into arguments that can lead to you saying some controversial stuff and digging yourself even a bigger hole.
those are the people that should turn off their phones or computers and blow off some steam and wait for people to forget they existed. besides, if they seriously can't take an criticism or have an exaggerated reaction towards a harsh comment they probably don't really belong on social media (and in some cases the internet), even if they have a right to be there or not. its those types of people that advocate censorship of free speech on the internet.
[QUOTE=Pepsi-cola;49623736]I don't like the attitude of "turn it off" everyone deserves to be on the internet fuck the people that have to act like cunts on social media.[/QUOTE]
If there were no mods here on FP and people were giving you grief, you could just forget about FP for a while, that's what Milo meant with "turn it off".
I agreed with him to an extent up until he said to just laugh off death threats
Even if they call the police, some people just can't "laugh it off," considering that, as far as they know, someone wanted them to die. That sort of shit can be really damaging to a person, especially there self-esteem.
[QUOTE=Pepsi-cola;49623736]I don't like the attitude of "turn it off" everyone deserves to be on the internet fuck the people that have to act like cunts on social media.[/QUOTE]
It's not about literally hitting the power button on your computer. Of course everyone should be able to use the internet. The question is whether or not someone has a right to be left completely unchallenged and unmolested when they continue to participate in social media and continue to specifically consume information which they know will upset them. Basically, the question is should "safe spaces" be guaranteed on the internet.
[QUOTE=Pretiacruento;49623751]"He makes a strong argument, but I [I]still[/I] disagree with him because [I]muh feelings![/I]"
Very immature of her, I must say.[/QUOTE]
shes allowed to have an opinion and her statement wasn't immature at all?
you just added the muh bullshit to fit with your /pol/ aesthetic
[QUOTE=Da Bomb76;49624588]It's not about literally hitting the power button on your computer. Of course everyone should be able to use the internet. The question is whether or not someone has a right to be left completely unchallenged and unmolested when they continue to participate in social media and continue to specifically consume information which they know will upset them. Basically, the question is should "safe spaces" be guaranteed on the internet.[/QUOTE]
Especially when their entire livelihood is based on baiting teenagers to tweet angry bullshit at them and then cry harassment to the angsty teenagers and emotionally underdeveloped adults in an attempt to score on Patreon.
There's so much more to this than people being randomly mean on twitter to fair pink haired maidens who sing with the animals in the woods.
[QUOTE=fruxodaily;49624636]shes allowed to have an opinion and her statement wasn't immature at all?
you just added the muh bullshit to fit with your /pol/ aesthetic[/QUOTE]
I think it's disingenuous to cut away from the conversation where he is saying it's not okay to send those kinds of things over the internet and here is how you stop it and cut to another scene where she says "I can't understand how anybody can think it's okay to send horrible comments to people online" and "It's just the internet its not real it can't hurt you" when he said neither of those things. The implication being that, despite emphatically saying he isn't okay with that, that he actually thinks it's fine.
If she just conceded it was a strong argument and just took the honest position, that peoples speech should be limited to protect others feelings on the internet, I would chalk it up to a disagreement. She went a step further and straight up put words in Milo's mouth.
To be fair, he did say that any threats or implication that the comments will be taken further than messages on the internet should be reported to the police. I've got to say I agree with him. On almost any social media platform, there are options for blocking and increasing privacy. I can't envision a situation where something that does not constitute a threat or incitement to violence can have a deep effect on a rational person that isn't mitigated by blocking or just growing a pair.
Based Milo tells it like it is.
Death threats are illegal - report them; for everything else, toughen up.
I definitely agree that isolated incidents of saying mean things aren't an issue.
I definitely agree with him that death threats are already illegal - report them.
I agree that the majority of what's called harassment online aren't really legitimate cases of harassment, but that does still leave a number of cases of genuine harassment and stalking online.
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