'Stop lying', US tells Russia as NATO images show 'Russian troops in Ukraine' - Polidicks

[img]http://imgkk.com/i/_7q4.jpg[/img] [url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-28972878[/url] [quote]Nato has released satellite images it says show Russian armed forces inside Ukrainian territory to help rebels fight government forces. Ukraine's president held a security council meeting on Thursday over the "sharp aggravation of the situation". Russia has denied the claims. Earlier, rebels opened a new front in the south by seizing the coastal town of Novoazovsk. At least 2,119 people have been killed in four months of fighting. Amid condemnation from Western powers, the United Nations Security Council has held an emergency meeting in New York to discuss the crisis. "Russia has to stop lying and stop fuelling this conflict," the US ambassador to the UN, Samantha Power, told the council. Britain's ambassador Sir Mark Lyall Grant said Russia was guilty of "a clear violation of sovereign Ukrainian territory", adding that the conflict would "no longer exist" without Russia's direct support for separatists. Meanwhile Russia's ambassador to the UN, Vitaly Churkin, said the crisis was a "direct consequence of the reckless policy of Kiev, which is conducting a war against its own people".[/quote] [url=http://edition.cnn.com/2014/08/28/world/gallery/nato-images-show-russian-forces-in-ukraine/index.html]CNN has all the pics[/url]

Israeli and Russian news should have it's own subforum at this rate.

[QUOTE=Megadave;45828295]Israeli and Russian news should have it's own subforum at this rate.[/QUOTE] IS news, too.

America denounces Russia telling the world they are not to be trusted!

Look at this hilarious attempt to debunk the images by our resident russian non-believers. [QUOTE=karimatrix;45827590]just thought i post this one in regard of "satelite" photos [img]http://cs624118.vk.me/v624118105/31d/4QoT1cKktvs.jpg[/img] A nice reminder regarding accuracy of such type of info.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=NoDachiUK;45828369]Look at this hilarious attempt to debunk the images by our resident russian non-believers.[/QUOTE] I'm not quite sure what he was trying to point out. Flipping it does nothing, north is still clearly labelled correctly in the original image. [editline]28th August 2014[/editline] I'm actually pretty surprised by a lot of the Russians here on Facepunch. I never considered the fact that humans have such a fantastic capacity to lie to themselves and I find it offensive and pathetic.

[QUOTE=SeamanStains;45828407]I'm not quite sure what he was trying to point out. Flipping it does nothing, north is still clearly labelled correctly in the original image. [editline]28th August 2014[/editline] I'm actually pretty surprised by a lot of the Russians here on Facepunch. I never considered the fact that humans have such a fantastic capacity to lie to themselves and I find it offensive and pathetic.[/QUOTE] Where is the lie? Russia is telling Ukraine to suck it's military cock.

[QUOTE=laserguided;45828491]Where is the lie? Russia is telling Ukraine to suck it's military cock.[/QUOTE] was in reference to the quoted post, which is from another thread.

If the US can provide clear satellite photos such as these why did they not release the images of the BUK that shot down MH17?

[QUOTE=Heisenburger;45828717]If the US can provide clear satellite photos such as these why did they not release the images of the BUK that shot down MH17?[/QUOTE] Because there are no images or they are holding them for some reason.

[QUOTE=smurfy;45828089][img]http://imgkk.com/i/_7q4.jpg[/img] [url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-28972878[/url] [url=http://edition.cnn.com/2014/08/28/world/gallery/nato-images-show-russian-forces-in-ukraine/index.html]CNN has all the pics[/url][/QUOTE] Ukraine will win the T-90 is bad Bulat ftw.

[QUOTE=SeamanStains;45828407]I never considered the fact that humans have such a fantastic capacity to lie to themselves and I find it offensive and pathetic.[/QUOTE] I prefer the term "hoping for the best". "The best" in this case being not getting fucked as a result of our government's deeds. I would've said that this is because we all have been brainwashed, but my head hurts when I have anti-Russian thoughts and the KGB agent behind me wouldn't appreciate it either.

[QUOTE=Heisenburger;45828717]If the US can provide clear satellite photos such as these why did they not release the images of the BUK that shot down MH17?[/QUOTE] First of all, NATO took the photos. And nobody was expecting an airliner to be shot down, but they were expecting Russia to do something.

[QUOTE=Heisenburger;45828717]If the US can provide clear satellite photos such as these why did they not release the images of the BUK that shot down MH17?[/QUOTE] There probably isn't any.

liar liar tanks on fire

[QUOTE=Megadave;45828295]Israeli and Russian news should have it's own subforum at this rate.[/QUOTE] Agreed. Have it include all IS/Russian/Israeli threads. We'll call it...Warcrime Headlines...

Russia proves once again that they are a liar-liar plants for hire.

[QUOTE=Mebit;45830871]Agreed. Have it include all IS/Russian/Israeli threads. We'll call it...Warcrime Headlines...[/QUOTE] Or perhaps "The War Journal".

[QUOTE=Heisenburger;45828717]If the US can provide clear satellite photos such as these why did they not release the images of the BUK that shot down MH17?[/QUOTE] Because contrary to popular belief satellites aren't recording the entire surface area of the earth 24/7.

Someone should probably tell the Russian government that it's pretty hard to lie when we have satellites that can take the date off a license-plates' registration sticker.

[QUOTE=Moustacheman;45830908]Russia proves once again that they are a liar-liar plants for hire.[/QUOTE] Its pants on fire patrick, Also, WW3, swear to God it will happen.

I'm just gonna have a quick rant here, because it's due. According to my mother, who watches the news like a hawk, Russia haven't sent in tanks or troops or anything. They have the OSCE, an international security company watching the borders, and they released a report last week (20th to 27th of August) that they haven't seen anything. [url]http://www.osce.org/om/123016[/url] Also, have we seen any footage of what Ukraine looks like right now? It's in a state of total abhorrence. People are evacuating it to other countries, and Russia is providing them food supplies and tents. No source for this but my mother's word, who watches the news every single minute she can. There's been footage of some cities inside of Ukraine right now and how they are dealing with this entire separatist problem. [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctcPPof7bzA&list=UUuRgUSdmne5RXVGjKuHLBCQ[/url] I don't expect anybody to watch the full thing at all, but just skim through it to see what's happening. Maybe we aren't seeing the full picture.

[QUOTE=GentlemanLexi;45832544]I'm just gonna have a quick rant here, because it's due. According to my mother, who watches the news like a hawk, Russia haven't sent in tanks or troops or anything. They have the OSCE, an international security company watching the borders, and they released a report last week (20th to 27th of August) that they haven't seen anything. [url]http://www.osce.org/om/123016[/url] Also, have we seen any footage of what Ukraine looks like right now? It's in a state of total abhorrence. People are evacuating it to other countries, and Russia is providing them food supplies and tents. No source for this but my mother's word, who watches the news every single minute she can. There's been footage of some cities inside of Ukraine right now and how they are dealing with this entire separatist problem. [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctcPPof7bzA&list=UUuRgUSdmne5RXVGjKuHLBCQ[/url] I don't expect anybody to watch the full thing at all, but just skim through it to see what's happening. Maybe we aren't seeing the full picture.[/QUOTE] I can confirm our government does a hell of a job to give passports to all fleeing people from Donbass. Every town is accepting 100 new people daily and much more for bigger cities. A lot of help is being provided, like children being put to school and kindergardens, accodomation and even jobs. It seems completey counter-logical to put any troops inside Ukraine now after Russia got everything it ever wanted from Ukraine. Also the osce.

[QUOTE=GentlemanLexi;45832544]I'm just gonna have a quick rant here, because it's due. According to my mother, who watches the news like a hawk, Russia haven't sent in tanks or troops or anything. They have the OSCE, an international security company watching the borders, and they released a report last week (20th to 27th of August) that they haven't seen anything. [url]http://www.osce.org/om/123016[/url] Also, have we seen any footage of what Ukraine looks like right now? It's in a state of total abhorrence. People are evacuating it to other countries, and Russia is providing them food supplies and tents. No source for this but my mother's word, who watches the news every single minute she can. There's been footage of some cities inside of Ukraine right now and how they are dealing with this entire separatist problem. [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctcPPof7bzA&list=UUuRgUSdmne5RXVGjKuHLBCQ[/url] I don't expect anybody to watch the full thing at all, but just skim through it to see what's happening. Maybe we aren't seeing the full picture.[/QUOTE] As much as I like ANNA for how brave they are when reporting, it's an extremely biased source of information.

[QUOTE=SeamanStains;45834168]As much as I like ANNA for how brave they are when reporting, it's an extremely biased source of information.[/QUOTE] Does that mean people aren't suffering and being barraged there? Just because Russia spins it as "Facist junta targets civilians" Doesn't mean civilian buildings aren't being hit and civilians aren't dying. In one of the vice reports, unbias or bias to west, they showed a hospital which had been hit by the gov forces.

[QUOTE=mdeceiver79;45834230]Does that mean people aren't suffering and being barraged there? Just because Russia spins it as "Facist junta targets civilians" Doesn't mean civilian buildings aren't being hit and civilians aren't dying. In one of the vice reports, unbias or bias to west, they showed a hospital which had been hit by the gov forces.[/QUOTE] Unfortunately people take everything from Western sources at a face value, not realising propaganda is subjected to both sides. One of the biggest advantages being a Russian in Estonia is the gradually picked up ability to filter the retarded amount of mass media information and not to jump to conclusions. One of the reason im not picking sides in either of the affairs - everyone acts stupid.

Sorry Russia, only the US can support "terrorist".

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/eopc0wb.png[/IMG] Russians are in Ukraine, doing sick doughnuts and mad burnouts.

someone explain this to me please russia invades and takes over crimea, russia gets into the donbass area and has been stalling its troops (''rebels'') there for awhile, a passenger plane is shot down with no survivors, yet russia claims nothing is going on, why not leave the donbass area? oh and the pictures of nearly empty supply trucks russia doesnt know the difference between attacking and defending?

[QUOTE=IceBlizzard;45835928]someone explain this to me please russia invades and takes over crimea, russia gets into the donbass area and has been stalling its troops (''rebels'') there for awhile, a passenger plane is shot down with no survivors, yet russia claims nothing is going on, why not leave the donbass area? oh and the pictures of nearly empty supply trucks russia doesnt know the difference between attacking and defending?[/QUOTE] Totally! If I was Putin I would have jumped in an attack chopper by now and rushed the MCOM with my tv guided missiles.