• China lifts ban on lesbians giving blood
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[QUOTE]Hong Kong (CNN) -- The Chinese Ministry of Health has lifted a 14-year-old ban on lesbians donating blood in effect as of July 1. The ban still applies to men who are sexually active with other men, but celibate homosexuals are permitted to give blood, according to the Ministry of Health's website. The original ban, enacted in 1998, barred homosexuals of both genders from donating blood out of a fear of spreading HIV and AIDS. 'Mama Wu' unlikely hero for homosexuals in China Xu Bin, a prominent lesbian rights activist in China, told the Global Times she applauded the amendment and what it means for lesbians in China. "It is also about our dignity and the elimination of blood donation discrimination," she was quoted as saying. Xu, who goes by her nickname Xian, first tried to donate blood in 2008 after an earthquake in Sichuan Province, when she learned of the ban and began campaigning against it. "It's scientific that the policy doesn't mention homosexual identity but only fences off some who have certain sex behaviors, because AIDS is not caused by one's homosexual identity but improper sexual behavior," Xian told the Global Times. AIDS first made an appearance in China in the 1980s when an Argentinean tourist died from the disease while on holiday in the country. Like other areas of the world, the epidemic was shrouded in confusion which was exacerbated in China by official denials that it existed there. However, more recently, organizations such as UNAIDS, the joint United Nations program on HIV and AIDS, have commended the Chinese government on advancements in the attitude on AIDS. In June, UNAIDS reported that its executive director had visited the country and praised the government's "major investments in China's AIDS response and a dramatic scale-up of HIV prevention, treatment and care programs." The new regulations also include several other changes, including raising the age limit to 60, increasing the amount donated from 200 ml to 400 ml and shortening the required period of time between donations.[/QUOTE] Source: [url]http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/06/world/asia/china-lesbian-blood-donors/index.html?hpt=hp_bn2[/url]
I understand it for the prevention of HIV/AIDS because then it was pretty rampant in homosexual couples because they almost never used any kind of protection due to the virtually nonexistent chance of pregnancy, but now that they have tests for those diseases, why keep the ban?
I think it's funny how flipping crazy people get when they argue the issue of homosexual marriage when way stupider things like this are happening. I support gay marriage, just sayin.
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[QUOTE=zombini;36658272]I understand it for the prevention of HIV/AIDS because then it was pretty rampant in homosexual couples because they almost never used any kind of protection due to the virtually nonexistent chance of pregnancy, but now that they have tests for those diseases, why keep the ban?[/QUOTE] The tests are not perfect, it is possible for it to slip through the cracks. Like it or not it is a risk factor to be gay. They want to minimize that. You can argue that the benefits outweigh the risks, but it isn't quite so black-and-white.
Fuck virgins only
Progress is always a good thing.
This was Banned.?
[QUOTE=Elecbullet;36658366]The tests are not perfect, it is possible for it to slip through the cracks. Like it or not it is a risk factor to be gay. They want to minimize that. You can argue that the benefits outweigh the risks, but it isn't quite so black-and-white.[/QUOTE] The tests are not perfect, it is possible for it to slip through the cracks. Like it or not it is a risk factor to be straight. They want to minimize that. You can argue that the benefits outweigh the risks, but it isn't quite so black-and-white.
[QUOTE=RichyZ;36659030]except what if you could also add a thing on the form to say you're a virgin fixed also, its really easy to just go "nah nigga im straight hook me up" and get away with it[/QUOTE] it's also easy to say "nah nigga i've never injected drugs and have not had a tattoo in the past six months". That people can get around it doesn't make it not the best solution. Furthermore, the question which is asked of you is "Are you a man who had sex with a man since 1977?" or something. It isn't about being gay. [editline]7th July 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Worldwaker;36658988]The tests are not perfect, it is possible for it to slip through the cracks. Like it or not it is a risk factor to be straight. They want to minimize that. You can argue that the benefits outweigh the risks, but it isn't quite so black-and-white.[/QUOTE] I don't give a fuck, it is indeed a much bigger risk factor to be gay, and we have to balance the need versus the risk of taking from every group. [editline]7th July 2012[/editline] I have no statistics to offer. I cannot claim that it is absolutely the best solution and back it up. All I did was point out that HIV tests are not 100% perfect right now, and so it's not as easy as take from everyone and just test them.
Why is this so funny
[QUOTE=zombini;36658272]I understand it for the prevention of HIV/AIDS because then it was pretty rampant in homosexual couples because they almost never used any kind of protection due to the virtually nonexistent chance of pregnancy, but now that they have tests for those diseases, why keep the ban?[/QUOTE] The tests aren't foolproof, and have both false positive and false negative possibilities.
[QUOTE=zombini;36658272]I understand it for the prevention of HIV/AIDS because then it was pretty rampant in homosexual couples because they almost never used any kind of protection due to the virtually nonexistent chance of pregnancy, but now that they have tests for those diseases, why keep the ban?[/QUOTE] there's a chance of pregnancy?
[QUOTE=Glorbo;36659455]Why is this so funny[/QUOTE] Everything china does is funny, except when they succeed in something, then everyone is just quiet.
[QUOTE=SSBMX;36658846]Fuck virgins only[/QUOTE] Ever watched [i]Kids[/i]?
[QUOTE=Eeshton;36659548]there's a chance of pregnancy?[/QUOTE] Only even remotely feasible thing I can think of is if one of the women (or both I guess) were bisexual and had intercourse with a man immediately beforehand. Other than that, yeah, I think that "virtually" is kind of unnecessary when talking about lesbians and pregnancy. :v:
[QUOTE=Elecbullet;36658366]The tests are not perfect, it is possible for it to slip through the cracks. Like it or not it is a risk factor to be gay. They want to minimize that. You can argue that the benefits outweigh the risks, but it isn't quite so black-and-white.[/QUOTE] being straight is a risk factor too, gay people arent the only people that get aids you know i thought the idea that people who are gay have a higher chance of having aids was the thought everyone had in the 80s, not today lol
[QUOTE=Elecbullet;36658366]The tests are not perfect, it is possible for it to slip through the cracks. Like it or not it is a risk factor to be gay. They want to minimize that. You can argue that the benefits outweigh the risks, but it isn't quite so black-and-white.[/QUOTE] It's a risk factor to be a gay MALE. It is very easy to transmit HIV through male-male sex and very difficult to transmit through female-female sex.
[QUOTE=Gmod4ever;36663070]Only even remotely feasible thing I can think of is if one of the women (or both I guess) were bisexual and had intercourse with a man immediately beforehand. Other than that, yeah, I think that "virtually" is kind of unnecessary when talking about lesbians and pregnancy. :v:[/QUOTE] Alright trying to set titles like that should be bannable. Also thanks for pissing someone off enough to remind me to go install that title fixing script, wherever I put it.
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;36663179]It's a risk factor to be a gay MALE. It is very easy to transmit HIV through male-male sex and very difficult to transmit through female-female sex.[/QUOTE] I am aware of that, I was using "gay" for "gay male" as is the most common use. [editline]7th July 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Bobie;36663160]being straight is a risk factor too, gay people arent the only people that get aids you know i thought the idea that people who are gay have a higher chance of having aids was the thought everyone had in the 80s, not today lol[/QUOTE] MSM account for nearly half of the approximately 1.2 million people living with HIV in the United States (49%, or an estimated 580,000 total persons). MSM account for more than half of all new HIV infections in the United States each year (61%, or an estimated 29,300 infections). While CDC estimates that only 4 percent of men in the United States are MSM, the rate of new HIV diagnoses among MSM in the United States is more than 44 times that of other men (range: 522 – 989 per 100,000 MSM vs. 12 per 100,000 other men). This is the CDC in 2011. [url=http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CFsQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cdc.gov%2Fnchhstp%2Fnewsroom%2Fdocs%2Ffastfacts-msm-final508comp.pdf&ei=h3_4T9enOIj28gSvtP3XBg&usg=AFQjCNFQxD7hhcEyBdUXSh5z6l_zY6KNcw&sig2=sCiR0X9ufxA6MvcZH1LhJA]Link.[/url] I'd say that that makes "men who have sex with men" less eligible than "men who have sex with women" to give blood.
[QUOTE=Eeshton;36659548]there's a chance of pregnancy?[/QUOTE] actually i read an article that lesbian couples can have babies by using one's bone marrow to make stem cells that turn to sperm and can impregnate the others egg. Or something along those lines.
In that case, without a donor Y chromosome, all children would have to be female.
[QUOTE=Elecbullet;36664541]In that case, without a donor Y chromosome, all children would have to be female.[/QUOTE] that's not a bad thing.
I'm pretty sure gay men aren't allowed to donate blood in Austria either. It's because for the first 2-4 weeks after being infected with HIV, it can't be detected and gay men allegedly have a higher probability of being infected.
[QUOTE=Elecbullet;36664323]I am aware of that, I was using "gay" for "gay male" as is the most common use. [editline]7th July 2012[/editline] MSM account for nearly half of the approximately 1.2 million people living with HIV in the United States (49%, or an estimated 580,000 total persons). MSM account for more than half of all new HIV infections in the United States each year (61%, or an estimated 29,300 infections). While CDC estimates that only 4 percent of men in the United States are MSM, the rate of new HIV diagnoses among MSM in the United States is more than 44 times that of other men (range: 522 – 989 per 100,000 MSM vs. 12 per 100,000 other men). This is the CDC in 2011. [url=http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CFsQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cdc.gov%2Fnchhstp%2Fnewsroom%2Fdocs%2Ffastfacts-msm-final508comp.pdf&ei=h3_4T9enOIj28gSvtP3XBg&usg=AFQjCNFQxD7hhcEyBdUXSh5z6l_zY6KNcw&sig2=sCiR0X9ufxA6MvcZH1LhJA]Link.[/url] I'd say that that makes "men who have sex with men" less eligible than "men who have sex with women" to give blood.[/QUOTE] damn i didnt know the statistics were that high, i guess there is reasoning here then. i need to learn me the facts mo often
This thread could use some pictures of Chinese lesbians.
[QUOTE=Worldwaker;36658988]The tests are not perfect, it is possible for it to slip through the cracks.[/QUOTE] When you deal with lesbians that's always going to be an issue. [QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;36663179]It's a risk factor to be a gay MALE. It is very easy to transmit HIV through male-male sex and very difficult to transmit through female-female sex.[/QUOTE] That's because women don't have thingies to put in their thingies...well there was that one girl I picked up in Hollywood but that's a story for another time.
[QUOTE=Robber;36665252]I'm pretty sure gay men aren't allowed to donate blood in Austria either. It's because for the first 2-4 weeks after being infected with HIV, it can't be detected and gay men allegedly have a higher probability of being infected.[/QUOTE] So check his boyfriend. or if you're really paranoid require them to be celibate for a month before donating.
that sounds very implausible lavacano.
Lesbian blood for the lesbian goddess?
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