• Why We Need THE WALL
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[video=youtube;UOOBlcOIcLs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOOBlcOIcLs[/video] May not be for everyone. May probably change someone's stance on the wall but i'm still not convinced. Take this with a grain of salt.
I'm only two minutes in so I won't judge the entire video. But this dude starts off his rant by saying the people who disagree with strong border control and mass deportation... secretly agree with it? Pretty shit point
[img]http://i.imgur.com/XjxtZjW.png[/img]
rageaholic is the most generic youtube name
This guy's kind of a tool
Skinny Jim Sterling is still too pompous to even hold my attention.
This guy parades himself more than all the gay leather he's wearing.
Black and white video enough posters to kill a man in a fire Strapped in hard leather with aviator shades and greasy long hair I'm not one to judge a book by its cover so quickly but did Tommy Wiseau cum in a vag???
[QUOTE=J!NX;51724043]Black and white video enough posters to kill a man in a fire Strapped in hard leather with aviator shades and greasy long hair I'm not one to judge a book by its cover so quickly but did Tommy Wiseau cum in a vag???[/QUOTE] refute his points, not his style
[QUOTE=portalcrazy;51724070]refute his points, not his style[/QUOTE] people on FP seem to think you can't judge the two separately. nothing wrong with pointing out that he dresses like a moron. save that post for someone who says he's wrong BECAUSE he dresses like a moron
[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;51724093]people on FP seem to think you can't judge the two separately. nothing wrong with pointing out that he dresses like a moron. save that post for someone who says he's wrong BECAUSE he dresses like a moron[/QUOTE] i would like to live with my long hair and dress in leather and not think i'm a moron. i do see why one could say that though given the kind of content he produces [editline]25th January 2017[/editline] allow me to point out that i'm not trying to stir shit, it was a perhaps unnecessary kneejerk
[QUOTE=portalcrazy;51724070]refute his points, not his style[/QUOTE] no
[QUOTE=portalcrazy;51724115]i would like to live with my long hair and dress in leather and not think i'm a moron. i do see why one could say that though given the kind of content he produces [editline]25th January 2017[/editline] allow me to point out that i'm not trying to stir shit, it was a perhaps unnecessary kneejerk[/QUOTE] you're not a moron for dressing in leather. poor choice of words on my part, but that was, again, a comment on his looks not him as a person. dude looks like the quintessential edgy myspace picture, come to life
[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;51724160]you're not a moron for dressing in leather. poor choice of words on my part, but that was, again, a comment on his looks not him as a person. dude looks like the quintessential edgy myspace picture, come to life[/QUOTE] fair point
[QUOTE=HAKKAR!!!;51723959][img]http://i.imgur.com/XjxtZjW.png[/img][/QUOTE] [QUOTE][IMG]http://www.savecontinue.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Hatred.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
He makes some pretty good points. Can't say that I disagree with most of them.
[QUOTE=HAKKAR!!!;51723959][img]http://i.imgur.com/XjxtZjW.png[/img][/QUOTE] Man, what the hell happened with Weird Al?
We don't like what he's saying so we're just gonna make fun of his looks instead of proving him wrong because refuting his arguments is not worth our time even though we will waste as just as much time shitposting about his looks./s
[QUOTE=Boaraes;51724177]He makes some pretty good points. Can't say that I disagree with most of them.[/QUOTE] i don't understand his point about how mexican immigrants come to live in a glorified version of poverty, saying we don't do them any favors... then going off on a tangent about how absolutely horrible the living conditions in mexico are. that because some people get a better life for themselves and their family, the fact that others don't get the same means we need to send those with a better life back there. seems like a non sequitur to me
The biggest problem with this video is that he never tries to refute the more viable counterarguments Like he keeps talking about the issues that the wall would solve and doesn't say a thing about what new problems it beings to the table, like how it's insanely expensive, nearly impossible to build, and most professional don't even think it'll be that effective against immigration. Aside from that, a revolution isn't a guaranteed fix to government corruption. Countries like cuba and russia became arguably worse after overthrowing an already pretty bad government.
correct me if i'm wrong but it looks like his whole point is that things need to get worse before they get better, which is extremely debatable
[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;51724222]i don't understand his point about how mexican immigrants come to live in a glorified version of poverty, saying we don't do them any favors... then going off on a tangent about how absolutely horrible the living conditions in mexico are. that because some people get a better life for themselves and their family, the fact that others don't get the same means we need to send those with a better life back there. seems like a non sequitur to me[/QUOTE] I think his point is that being an illegal in US is just a small bump whereas had they stayed and fixed their own country it would be a major improvement because Mexico has all the potential it needs to be great. And that this continuous illegal immigration perpetuates the current state of Mexico.
[QUOTE=Silly Sil;51724215]We don't like what he's saying so we're just gonna make fun of his looks instead of proving him wrong because refuting his arguments is not worth our time even though we will waste as just as much time shitposting about his looks./s[/QUOTE] nah mate he just looks like a tool, nothin more to it
[QUOTE=Silly Sil;51724215]We don't like what he's saying so we're just gonna make fun of his looks instead of proving him wrong because refuting his arguments is not worth our time even though we will waste as just as much time shitposting about his looks./s[/QUOTE] it's facepunch dude and even more it's the video section, this isn't a formal debate or even a debate thread. the first thing you see in the OP is some dork dressed like a gay leather daddy, i'd be saying the same thing if he was talking for 17 minutes in a nasly voice about why the wall is a dumb idea
Why even start a discussion about this, he looks like a discarded Johnny. You can bring it up just for fun you know. Wasn't really about his points, Lighten up.
[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;51724093]people on FP seem to think you can't judge the two separately. nothing wrong with pointing out that he dresses like a moron. save that post for someone who says he's wrong BECAUSE he dresses like a moron[/QUOTE] But then everyone starts talking about irrelevant stuff instead of the actual meat of the video.
[QUOTE=portalcrazy;51724070]refute his points, not his style[/QUOTE] when you are presenting yourself as a public speaker, your character and appearance are as much valid critique as your message
[QUOTE=mchapra;51724254]nah mate he just looks like a tool, nothin more to it[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=HAKKAR!!!;51724277]it's facepunch dude and even more it's the video section, this isn't a formal debate or even a debate thread. the first thing you see in the OP is some dork dressed like a gay leather daddy, i'd be saying the same thing if he was talking for 17 minutes in a nasly voice about why the wall is a dumb idea[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Warborq;51724295]Why even start a discussion about this, he looks like a discarded Johnny. You can bring it up just for fun you know. Wasn't really about his points, Lighten up.[/QUOTE] I just think that it's a low blow and you make yourself look like an asshole. I don't know, my parents taught me not to make fun of people's looks. I mean what's next, we're gonna post pics of children with downs syndrome and make fun of them?
[QUOTE=Silly Sil;51724333]I just think that it's a low blow and you make yourself look like an asshole. I don't know, my parents taught me not to make fun of people's looks. I mean what's next, we're gonna post pics of children with downs syndrome and make fun of them?[/QUOTE] that's a bit of a stretch to compare bullying a disabled kid to commenting on a person's (lack of) fashion sense for a bit of a laugh but alright dude, you do you. this is irrelevant, the video is purely anecdotal, his points are worthless essentially since it's mostly "feels before reals", if we were to get back on the topic at hand.
He keep saying that building the wall will help Mexico's people. But i don't think that being stuck in meat grinder helps anybody tbh. By the way he looks kinda like this guy from The Sisters of Mercy. [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuezNswtRfo&index=179&list=LLQEaVxAhRiRxhrXMnP8t4vw[/media]
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