• Video shows Turkish soilders shooting Kurds with white flags collecting bodies
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[quote]A video has been shared allegedly showing Turkish forces firing on Kurdish civilians in the town of Cizre. In the video, several civilians are shown waving white flags as they walk with a cart which appears to hold two covered bodies. As they move through the streets, shots ring out, the crowd panics and runs to cover while the journalist continues to film. [/quote] [url]http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/video-shows-kurds-waving-white-flag-shot-by-turkish-soldiers-a6828416.html[/url] If you want to see the video and can stomach it: [B]*WARNING VERY GRAPHIC NSFW/NSFL: *[/B] [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2-1Llirn5s[/url]
Going to save the video so it can be re-upped if it's taken down. People need to see this.
Also downloaded in case of taken. For the love of god I hope this changes something.
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;49622148]Going to save the video so it can be re-upped if it's taken down. People need to see this.[/QUOTE] I really doubt that this will be ignored by the media. Of course Turkey is a NATO ally.
thats fucked
Isn't this basically why the civil wars in Libya and Syria started?
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;49622148]Going to save the video so it can be re-upped if it's taken down. People need to see this.[/QUOTE] It's been up for a few days (I was too lazy to post until now. I figured someone HAD to beat me to it at some point), and its being hosted by Revolutionary News, so I doubt it'll disappear. Still a good idea, regardless. Much appreciated.
Christ just watching the blood spread across the dirt
Holy shit, this is 100% inexcusable.
Downloaded. Will reupload.
[QUOTE=Taepodong-2;49622330]Isn't this basically why the civil wars in Libya and Syria started?[/QUOTE] not quite, they weren't racially motivated. and afaik this kind of thing has gone on for a long time
Jesus Fuck. I mean, what is going on through the Turks heads? To see a group of people walking with a white flag, mostly (from what I can see) are elderly men and women, and decide that they need to lay into them? This world is going nuts, just fucking nuts.
[QUOTE=Daddy-of-war;49622389]Jesus Fuck. I mean, what is going on through the Turks heads? To see a group of people walking with a white flag, mostly (from what I can see) are elderly men and women, and decide that they need to lay into them? This world is going nuts, just fucking nuts.[/QUOTE] Just 100 years ago this country committed multiple genocides and faced no punishment. Probably tons of leftover racism and probably alot of new stuff thanks to Erogan.
That's fucking horrible, man.
i get the feeling this will be a historically important video
aren't the Kurds the most prevalent boots-on-the-ground force against ISIL rn?
[QUOTE=abcpea;49622388]not quite, they weren't racially motivated. and afaik this kind of thing has gone on for a long time[/QUOTE] The Kurds have been suppressed since ancient times. They've been attacked by the Romans, Persians, Ottomans, Turks, Armenians, and pretty much every other civilization in that area. Arguably, the worst of it being the ethnic cleansing by the Young Turks (and more infamously, the Armenians).
[QUOTE=General J;49622485]aren't the Kurds the most prevalent boots-on-the-ground force against ISIL rn?[/QUOTE] Pretty much. I've always been super critical of Turkey and have been talking about the fucked up things they've been doing to the Kurds. It really sucks to be validated with a video like that.
[QUOTE=General J;49622485]aren't the Kurds the most prevalent boots-on-the-ground force against ISIL rn?[/QUOTE] Arguable, but I would say that the YPG is the most effective force against ISIS that isn't morally despicable.
can Turkey be kicked out of NATO can a country even be kicked out of NATO
[QUOTE=theevilldeadII;49622505]can Turkey be kicked out of NATO can a country even be kicked out of NATO[/QUOTE] anyone can be kicked out of anywhere, this just needs to cause a huge stir though i can see this video being buried with all the other graphic war videos, people need to really share this shit around so people wont forget
[QUOTE=General J;49622485]aren't the Kurds the most prevalent boots-on-the-ground force against ISIL rn?[/QUOTE] And Turkey just recently had them excluded from a massive meeting about the future of the region.
[QUOTE=theevilldeadII;49622505]can Turkey be kicked out of NATO can a country even be kicked out of NATO[/QUOTE] I can already see NATO closing their eyes to this
[QUOTE=theevilldeadII;49622505]can Turkey be kicked out of NATO can a country even be kicked out of NATO[/QUOTE] The "nice" thing about countries is that they technically don't [I]have[/I] to honour agreements since there usually aren't any punitive damages if they're voided completely, so they can somewhat unilaterally drop them. Of course it's extremely unlikely they'll get kicked out for this, unless it becomes a major election topic in just about all of the other NATO countries. There would also be diplomatic issues otherwise, but I'm actually not sure how much that would be a problem. You normally can't expect much in terms of purely morally motivated choices with real consequences from politics, unfortunately, since they often aren't in a country's [I]immediate[/I] self-interest.
They made them turn back the ambulances as you can see in the video. My blood is fucking boiling, I sent the video to CNN, ABC, MSNBC, and every other major news station. I suggest you all do the same.
That is immensely fucked. Jesus fucking Christ, unarmed elderly civilians, with even a white flag up to boot, and they just start firing at them without a single warning even? Turkey needs some serious examination by both NATO and the UN
[QUOTE=Limed00d;49622789]That is immensely fucked. Jesus fucking Christ, unarmed elderly civilians, with even a white flag up to boot, and they just start firing at them without a single warning even? Turkey needs some serious examination by both NATO and the UN[/QUOTE]Been saying this for a long time, nobody fucking listens. I was going to buy an UTAS-12 shotgun awhile back but then I remembered it's made by a Turkish company so I changed my mind about that. I also encouraged my friend who was going to take a trip to Turkey to go elsewhere, it's just best to cut all association with that country.
Fuck Turkey.
Holy fuck that video. Jesus god damn fuck, start writing your fucking congressmen to condemn this shit immediately. Then spread the video to media. This can't be shared enough, despite how graphic it is. I don't give a fuck if you're Turk, Russian, Mexican, spread this shit because it's just god damn inhuman.
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;49622577]And Turkey just recently had them excluded from a massive meeting about the future of the region.[/QUOTE] If anything it's Turkey who should've been barred from the talks. Underhanded dealings with ISIS, suppression of Kurdish fighters operating against ISIS - it's clear they're not worth defending anymore. Shame we can't leave them out in the cold.
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