This is a video about a lawyer who explains why you should NEVER talk directly to the police, regardless of your innocence. Unfortunately, this is for US law only and may not help in other countries.
What makes me sick is how broken the law is. He uses many examples which show how fucked up the police can be and how all they want is someone to be prosecuted and sentenced, regardless of their innocence or not. It's sickening.
Part 1:
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8z7NC5sgik&[/media]
Part 2:
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08fZQWjDVKE&[/media]
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqMjMPlXzdA&[/media]
For those who don't want to watch the whole thing, just remember this: Do not, under [B]ANY[/B] circumstances talk to the police without consulting your lawyer first. Do not even say "I plead the 5th." Do not say ANYTHING. Just keep your mouth shut, even if you have an alibi.
What you should say as politely as possible:
"Officer, I do not consent to any searches."
"Officer, am I being detained, or am I free to go?"
"Officer, I have nothing to say until I speak with my attorney."
I watched the whole thing, I find this kinda stuff interesting.
[QUOTE=FFStudios;23664268]I watched the whole thing, I find this kinda stuff interesting.[/QUOTE]
How can you watch something longer than 37 minutes in 37 minutes time?
I don't know if it applies to every country, but Canadians remember....
If a police officer says "If you plead guilty, we will get you a lesser charge"
Don't forget that a police officer has nothing at all to do with your sentence, the judge makes the call
Interesting video.
[QUOTE=Oecleus;23664515]How can you watch something longer than 37 minutes in 37 minutes time?[/QUOTE]
If he had seen it before like I have, then you can.
Well shit, this would have helped me out a few years back.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rissm5YHJQg[/media]
I plead the fif!
So exactly what are you supposed to say when you get pulled over for a speeding ticket then?
[QUOTE=Oecleus;23664515]How can you watch something longer than 37 minutes in 37 minutes time?[/QUOTE]
I skipped the first 12 minutes of the first part because I've seen it before.
And it wasn't 37 minutes, I posted a good 45 minutes after this had been posted. I assure you I watched the whole thing.
[QUOTE=wutanggrenad;23664677]I don't know if it applies to every country, but Canadians remember....
If a police officer says "If you plead guilty, we will get you a lesser charge"
Don't forget that a police officer has nothing at all to do with your sentence, the judge makes the call[/QUOTE]
Usually plea bargaining is done with the Crown prosecutor, not an officer, and is done under the counsel of your attorney. The plea bargain is only a recommendation, but is usually considered since it is made by the Crown.
"Canadian judges are not bound by the Crown's sentencing recommendations", but, "if a judge were to routinely disregard joint submissions then (s)he would compromise the ability of the Crown to offer meaningful incentive for defendants to plead guilty"
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plea_bargain#Canada[/url]
Now if an officer is just bullshitting you before you even have an attorney or are charged, then don't confess to anything.
Same old, same old. You know your rights, use them.
I want to know what the OP did to make him hate the police so much.
Yeah don't tell the police anything, not the description of the guy who robbed you, or why you were carrying around 3 ounces of crack cocaine, It'll always lead to your demise!
Instead Call someone to talk for you for $400+ an hour, like this guy in the video
[QUOTE=Master117;23663861]Unfortunately, this is for US law only and may not help in other countries.
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In most western countries you can say "I have the right to remain silent" instead of "I'm going to take the fifth" and you'll still be okay. Or just say nothing.
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[QUOTE=TheTalon;23675786]Yeah don't tell the police anything, not the description of the guy who robbed you, or why you were carrying around 3 ounces of crack cocaine, It'll always lead to your demise!
Instead Call someone to talk for you for $400+ an hour, like this guy in the video[/QUOTE]
If you've been charged you get a lawyer for free.
This stuff is so interesting and useful. Of course I'm not going to talk so much sit when in trouble with the law, but sometimes it hilarious what people do.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3FNuMbbUZ0[/media]
Different situation, but you get the idea.
[QUOTE=Thomo;23672341]it's about serious crime and court.
Petty crime isn't going to put you in the slammer for years and years or get you killed.[/QUOTE]
Nah, watch the third video, it's all about getting caught with petty crimes like having weed on you.
Also, do police officers in the US not read you your rights when they arrest you?
I know you said it may not be applicable outside America, but in the UK they say:
'You have the right to remian silent. You do not have to say anything. But it may harm your defence if you do not mention when questioned something which you later rely on in court. Anything you do say may be given in evidence'.
In the US they say nothing at all? Blimey, looks like the British legal system has done something right after all!
Wow that is very informative. Now I feel smart and powerful :buddy:
[QUOTE=Memobot;23688639]Also, do police officers in the US not read you your rights when they arrest you?
I know you said it may not be applicable outside America, but in the UK they say:
'You have the right to remian silent. You do not have to say anything. But it may harm your defence if you do not mention when questioned something which you later rely on in court. Anything you do say may be given in evidence'.
In the US they say nothing at all? Blimey, looks like the British legal system has done something right after all![/QUOTE]
The US has something called the Miranda warning, which is very similar to what you quoted. The police only have to read you the Miranda warning if and when they are planning to interrogate you, [i]and[/i] only if they actually wish to use anything from your interrogation in court. If they're simply charging you for a crime, they only have to tell you the crime for which you're under arrest.
[QUOTE=shill le 2nd;23692235]The US has something called the Miranda warning, which is very similar to what you quoted. The police only have to read you the Miranda warning if and when they are planning to interrogate you, [i]and[/i] only if they actually wish to use anything from your interrogation in court. If they're simply charging you for a crime, they only have to tell you the crime for which you're under arrest.[/QUOTE]
However, be wary because the only need to read you your rights before an interrogation. If you are not being interrogated at the time they do not have to tell you. This means that if you say something to officers, say in the car ride to the station, they do not have to have read you your rights and it may be used in court. If they fail to read you your rights during an interrogation however, whatever said may be thrown out in court as it is impermissible as evidence and may even lead to a mistrial.
[QUOTE=toastedspyro;23672280]So exactly what are you supposed to say when you get pulled over for a speeding ticket then?[/QUOTE]
You must shut your car off (take the keys out of the ignition too) and turn the radio off and place your hands on the steering wheel so they are visible. Do NOT reach for ANYTHING until the officer asks.
You - "Good morning/afternoon officer. Would you like to explain why you pulled me over?"
Cop- "You were speeding. Do you know how fast you were going?"
You - *silence*
Cop - "You were going X miles per hour. Do you know what the speed limit is?"
You - *Silence*
Cop - "It's XYZ. I am going to have to write you a ticket."
You - accept the ticket and thank the officer and wish him a good day/afternoon.
If after your greeting and question, the officer is to ask, "really, you have no idea why I pulled you over?" then you must respond, "officer, am I being detained, or am I free to go?"
fuk da popo
[QUOTE=FFStudios;23672420]I skipped the first 12 minutes of the first part because I've seen it before.
And it wasn't 37 minutes, I posted a good 45 minutes after this had been posted. I assure you I watched the whole thing.[/QUOTE]
Now the time doesn't show, but before the OP was "59 minutes ago", and your post was "22 minutes ago"
Interesting. Although I wouldn't know if it applies just as much to law enforcement of West-European countries.
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