• Columbia’s ‘Mattress Girl’ Awarded NOW ‘Woman of Courage’ Award
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[QUOTE]The National Organization for Women has awarded Emma Sulkowicz, a.k.a. “Mattress Girl,” with the Woman of Courage Award. Sulkowicz rose to national prominence after carrying a mattress around Columbia University to protest the non-expulsion of her alleged rapist. The man she accused was cleared of all charges and is now suing Columbia for allowing Sulkowicz to [URL="http://heatst.com/culture-wars/accused-man-in-mattress-girl-scandal-files-new-allegations-against-columbia/"]torment him and ruin his reputation with her “art project.[/URL]” The award is often given to women “for having demonstrated personal bravery in challenging entrenched power and in carrying out action that has the potential to benefit women in general.”[/QUOTE] [url]https://heatst.com/culture-wars/columbia-mattress-girl-awarded-woman-of-courage-award/[/url] Good to see organizations honoring liars, just what society needs is to make a liar a hero
God our generation is fucking doomed I s2g
Takes a lot of courage to be a bold-faced liar I guess.
What a time to be alive people.
Really not too dang familiar with the story here. What did she lie about, specifically?
It's really good to see someone rewarded for speaking out. Too many rape survivors are forced into silence in one way or another in our society. It's nice to finally see people being encouraged to accuse and to go public about their allegations. I mean there is no way to know if the accusation is true though, there's no evidence either way besides what accuser and the accused's differing stories.
[QUOTE=Mio Akiyama;50610780][url]https://heatst.com/culture-wars/columbia-mattress-girl-awarded-woman-of-courage-award/[/url] Good to see organizations honoring liars, just what society needs is to make a liar a hero[/QUOTE] This looks like the story of the girl in Brazil which was raped by alleged 33 men.
I remember watching the weird sex tape she released which apparently was supposed to be a "dramatic recreation" of what she said happened. Worth watching for the insight into her mental processes, as well as for medicore porn value
[QUOTE=Squidman;50610852]I remember watching the weird sex tape she released which apparently was supposed to be a "dramatic recreation" of what she said happened. Worth watching for the insight into her mental processes, as well as nudity[/QUOTE] Do you have any links?
What's next, giving Jihadi John the Nobel Peace prize? I'm starting a crowdfunding project for an asteroid base, golds have VIP priority on the first habitation level. No Rust kids.
[QUOTE=RockyTV;50610859]Do you have any links?[/QUOTE] NSFW [URL="https://vid.me/68ut"]https://vid.me/68ut[/URL] NSFW Hopefully this works.
[QUOTE=RenegadeCop;50610851]Girl accused guy of rape, made a big deal about it, ruined his rep, got him kicked out of college and then it turns out it was false. Or at least, he was cleared of all charges.[/QUOTE] So was it actually proven that she was lying, or are we just assuming that she is a liar based on a lack of enough evidence to convict her alleged rapist? [I]IE-- he wasn't charged, ergo he must be innocent and she is a lying bitch attention whore[/I] [Editline]J[/editline] Lol case in point [QUOTE=MaximLaHaxim;50610871]She shouldn't get that award until she can prove 100% that that man raped her. Innocent until proven guilty; for all we know she could be an attention-seeking liar.[/QUOTE]
Sure its cool that her actions give more power to women but how about constitutional human rights of due process and innocent until proven guilty?
She shouldn't get that award until she can prove 100% that that man raped her. Innocent until proven guilty; for all we know she could be an attention-seeking liar who's doing nothing but reinforcing stereotypes, which frankly doesn't help women at all.
Him being cleared of all charges doesn't mean she's a liar, especially in the case of rape where it's pretty to prove anything. I don't know the story so well, so is there any evidence showing that she actually lied?
[QUOTE=person11;50610833]It's really good to see someone rewarded for speaking out. Too many rape survivors are forced into silence in one way or another in our society. It's nice to finally see people being encouraged to accuse and to go public about their allegations. I mean there is no way to know if the accusation is true though, there's no evidence either way besides what accuser and the accused's differing stories.[/QUOTE] The e-mails between the accuser and the accused seems pretty definitive to me. [url]http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/02/03/columbia-student-i-didn-t-rape-her.html[/url] [editline]28th June 2016[/editline] One part in particular: [quote]In an email to The Daily Beast, Sulkowicz said that by the time of that exchange, she had already visited the Office of Gender-Based Misconduct to report Nungesser. [b]“They asked me if I’d ever ‘tried talking it out’ with Paul,” Sulkowicz wrote. “So, because they suggested it[/b], I sent him a text message listing a few times during which I would be free and said that I was ready to talk. However, when he texted me back, it hit me that there was no way I could meet him one-on-one somewhere. It triggered so much pain and fear that I couldn’t bring myself to text him back.”[/quote] [quote]Columbia’s Title IX coordinator, Melissa Rooker, did not comment directly on Sulkowicz’s case but pointed The Daily Beast to the school’s Gender-Based Misconduct Policy for Students, [b]which states that the office never recommends informal resolution for sexual-assault complaints.[/b][/quote]
[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;50610886]Him being cleared of all charges doesn't mean she's a liar, especially in the case of rape where it's pretty to prove anything. I don't know the story so well, so is there any evidence showing that she actually lied?[/QUOTE] No evidence that it is true other than an accusation, which isn't definitive proof. He's innocent until there is proof that he raped her, in which case I would fully support her receiving the award and the guy getting his ass jailed.
[QUOTE=Warriorx4;50610890]The e-mails between the accuser and the accused seems pretty definitive to me. [url]http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/02/03/columbia-student-i-didn-t-rape-her.html[/url] [editline]28th June 2016[/editline] One part in particular:[/QUOTE] The section you are calling out doesn't really mean anything, tbf. Just because their policy states that they would never recommend such a course of action doesn't mean the policy was followed. It is also school policy that teachers should never become sexually involved with their students, and yet it happens.
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;50610869]So was it actually proven that she was lying, or are we just assuming that she is a liar based on a lack of enough evidence to convict her alleged rapist? [I]IE-- he wasn't charged, ergo he must be innocent and she is a lying bitch attention whore[/I] [Editline]J[/editline] Lol case in point[/QUOTE] Lol [quote] [12] b. There was no medical report, even though an attack as massive as described would with great likelihood have caused serious injuries in dire need of medical attention and would have left visible bruises on Emma’s body for days, ’ C. There was no testimony from Emma’s friends or family members who could confirm such injuries or changes in her behavior caused by discomfort from these injuries. On the contrary, in the days following the alleged attack, Emma participated in various social events on campus, such as parties with friends and social events with the fencing team. Given the multitude of social contact, any physical injuries would have likely been noticed by people on campus or those close to Emma.[/quote] [url]https://kcjohnson.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/nungesser-complaint.pdf[/url] let me remind you people that she gruesomely detailed extreme anal rape, strangulation, and iirc being punched in the face? Her story doesn't check out at all
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;50610869]So was it actually proven that she was lying, or are we just assuming that she is a liar based on a lack of enough evidence to convict her alleged rapist? [I]IE-- he wasn't charged, ergo he must be innocent and she is a lying bitch attention whore[/I] [Editline]J[/editline] Lol case in point[/QUOTE] She also used the controversy to get a grade in her art class IIRC. She carried around the mattress she said she was raped on and the teacher gave her a grade for it.
What a brave piece of shit
she was awarded this for "being so brave" and "speaking out against rape" but like how many women have spoken out against their rapists...? probably a lot more than you hear about? so why this girl? is it because it was a high profile case? wasn't it because of her privilege in the first place, having the money and well-to-do to even get into university in the first place, that she was able to get this much attention? the guy wasn't even convicted. her claim to fame was carrying around a mattress and making a sex tape (???). other than that, what makes her any different from any other woman that got their rapist convicted? ask yourselves these questions please before giving into this bullshit. you fuckers that buy into this (and the same lot show up in these threads often) are better than this
Remember girls, if you drag a person through the dirt and destroy their reputation, no matter if they actually hurt you or not, you'll get rewarded for it!
[QUOTE=MaximLaHaxim;50610928]No evidence that it is true other than an accusation, which isn't definitive proof. He's innocent until there is proof that he raped her.[/QUOTE] Nobody is saying that he definitively did rape her, just that the situation probably isn't as black and white as your are making it out to be. A lack of evidence does not mean that no wrongdoing occurred, it just means that there is not sufficient evidence to prove that it did. Rape is very difficult to prove, especially if no physical violence is involved, such as hitting, choking, or rough sex, and even then medical reports must be submitted quite quickly. I mean, look, we don't know any of the involved parties. Neither of us can say we know what actually occurred. It's all speculation, fueled by a lack of concrete fact. I'm only trying to caution against this unhealthy belief that being unable to prove that you were raped automatically makes you an attention seeking liar, because that is a really disgusting philosophy. Even if this case is fabricated, tens of thousands of women ARE being raped, and are afraid to come forward about it due to the stigma that folks like you are perpetuating. "Innocent until proven guilty" works both ways. You cannot just assume she is guilty of lying on the grounds that she can't [I]prove[/I] she isn't. Unless there is substantial evidence to show that she deliberately falsified her claims, of course.
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;50610938]The section you are calling out doesn't really mean anything, tbf. Just because their policy states that they would never recommend such a course of action doesn't mean the policy was followed. It is also school policy that teachers should never become sexually involved with their students, and yet it happens.[/QUOTE] True enough, and yet the e-mails exchanged between them after the alleged rape takes place shows that things were pretty okay; she even got into a new relationship and despite that she actively tried to arrange a meeting with him. I suppose you can say she arranged a meeting to talk about what had happened, we'll never know for sure as that meeting never went down.
[QUOTE=Warriorx4;50610986]True enough, and yet the e-mails exchanged between them after the alleged rape takes place shows that things were pretty okay; she even got into a new relationship and despite that she actively tried to arrange a meeting with him. I suppose you can say she arranged a meeting to talk about what had happened, [B]we'll never know for sure as that meeting never went down[/B].[/QUOTE] This is what I'm seeing so far. Like, again, I didn't follow this case closely. There could definitely info that I'm missing. Unfortunately almost all of the evidence Im being seen presented either way is totally circumstantial. There just isn't anything concrete enough for me to feel comfortable lambasting either party.
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;50611018]This is what I'm seeing so far. Like, again, I didn't follow this case closely. There could definitely info that I'm missing. Unfortunately almost all of the evidence Im being seen presented either way is totally circumstantial. There just isn't anything concrete enough for me to feel comfortable lambasting either party.[/QUOTE] You should read the link provided by Gray Altoid as it provides evidence of her fabrication and repeated efforts to continuously smear the guy to which the school allowed to continue and even pretty much assumed her side on the matter. The guy's reputation and character was tarnished over a girl who couldn't accept rejection from him. She's almost like Jodi Arias crazy.
The lone fact that she made a fucking sex tape "recreating" it should be enough evidence that she's fantastically full of shit. Would a legitimate rape victim really make the choice to relive their experience?
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;50611018]This is what I'm seeing so far. Like, again, I didn't follow this case closely. There could definitely info that I'm missing. Unfortunately almost all of the evidence Im being seen presented either way is totally circumstantial. There just isn't anything concrete enough for me to feel comfortable lambasting either party.[/QUOTE] That is again, fair. I recommend taking a gander at the document regarding the complaint, linked in Gray Altoid's post. The e-mails linked in my post, and the information in the document is enough for me. Perhaps you'll come to a different conclusion.
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;50611018]This is what I'm seeing so far. Like, again, I didn't follow this case closely. There could definitely info that I'm missing. Unfortunately almost all of the evidence Im being seen presented either way is totally circumstantial. There just isn't anything concrete enough for me to feel comfortable lambasting either party.[/QUOTE] Considering that she claimed a violent, brutal attack of which there was no physical evidence whatsoever, where the supposed attack would've left unmistakeable bruising (it's hard enough to hide a hickey, let alone [I]huge welts all around your neck[/I]), and none of her friends noticed the behavioral changes you'd see after a violent anal rape, I don't think you can reasonably just give her the benefit of the doubt. I understand your intentions but it's not just 'lack of evidence.'
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