This is calming. Brings back memories.
[url]http://wimp.com/songstorms/[/url]
zelda was made in a time where story rather than pixel shaders determined a games quality
Was a bit off key.
Welp, I have to listen to the entire Legend of Zelda soundtrack again.
[QUOTE=Anax;26382301]Welp, I have to listen to the entire Legend of Zelda soundtrack again.[/QUOTE]
Well then listen to this version of the soundtrack (#57): [url]http://www.zreomusic.com/z5[/url]
Very pretty : )
[QUOTE=dude2193;26379730]zelda was made in a time where story rather than pixel shaders determined a games quality[/QUOTE]
[img]http://i54.tinypic.com/158bjtx.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=dude2193;26379730]zelda was made in a time where story rather than pixel shaders determined a games quality[/QUOTE]
I think the reason why the stories were so long and good were due to the lack of great graphics being available.
[editline]1st December 2010[/editline]
[QUOTE=Facemanguy;26422409]Well then listen to this version of the soundtrack (#57): [url]http://www.zreomusic.com/z5[/url][/QUOTE]
Oh god forest temple, bad memories.
Zelda will always remain my favourite game (along with my favourite game soundtrack)
[QUOTE=Itachi_Crow;26423509]explain yourself[/QUOTE]
His comment suffers from ignorance likely caused by the nostalgic effect games you played in your youth can have on your judgment.
Games from your childhood always seem better than those today while that is not actually the case.
Do you really think graphics somehow triumphs a good story? Why would an increase in graphics technology even affect story elements of a game? Shouldn't they simply paint the scene better?
Games today have many great stories behind them, honestly, I don't even know what he was thinking when he made that post or if he was thinking at all. Fallout 3, Assasin's creed, Half life 2, all games with good graphics (given the time they where made). Do those games have crap stories?
Oh and in case you were wondering, I loved zelda like any normal kid. I don't think many games have had or even could have the same impact zelda had on me.
[QUOTE=Mutex;26424748]His comment suffers from ignorance likely caused by the nostalgic effect games you played in your youth can have on your judgment.
Games from your childhood always seem better than those today while that is not actually the case.
Do you really think graphics somehow triumphs a good story? Why would an increase in graphics technology even affect story elements of a game? Shouldn't they simply paint the scene better?
Games today have many great stories behind them, honestly, I don't even know what he was thinking when he made that post or if he was thinking at all. Fallout 3, Assasin's creed, Half life 2, all games with good graphics (given the time they where made). Do those games have crap stories?
Oh and in case you were wondering, I loved zelda like any normal kid. I don't think many games have had or even could have the same impact zelda had on me.[/QUOTE]
Aha. See, that provides a lot more insight as to your feelings on the subject than an image macro does.
I agree, there seems to be a misconception that better graphics leaves less time for the developers to polish the story. I love OOT to death, but that story was pretty basic and straightforward. Not saying it was bad, just straightforward. Some of those games you mentioned have much deeper, similar quality lore compared to LoZ's and they manage to look at least acceptably pretty.
Now that said I'd really rather have a game with good story and gameplay and mediocre-to-shit graphics than I would have a beautiful game with awful story and meh gameplay, but there are plenty of games that excel in all three of those areas.
Off key as fuck.
Listen to it in comparison to the original
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43IPAGw01IY[/media]
They didn't do it right. Like said 2 times before. Off key. And theres some stuff added that wasn't even in the original sound track.
[QUOTE=Mutex;26424748]His comment suffers from ignorance likely caused by the nostalgic effect games you played in your youth can have on your judgment.
Games from your childhood always seem better than those today while that is not actually the case.
Do you really think graphics somehow triumphs a good story? Why would an increase in graphics technology even affect story elements of a game? Shouldn't they simply paint the scene better?
Games today have many great stories behind them, honestly, I don't even know what he was thinking when he made that post or if he was thinking at all. Fallout 3, Assasin's creed, Half life 2, all games with good graphics (given the time they where made). Do those games have crap stories?
Oh and in case you were wondering, I loved zelda like any normal kid. I don't think many games have had or even could have the same impact zelda had on me.[/QUOTE]
A simple "Ha! Ha! No!" would have sufficed.
[QUOTE=Wheeze201;26426327]They didn't do it right. Like said 2 times before. Off key. [b]And theres some stuff added that wasn't even in the original sound track.[/B][/QUOTE]
OH MY GOD THEY DECIDED TO ADD STUFF INTO THEIR INTERPRETATION OF THE SONG!:derp:
[QUOTE=Mutex;26424748]His comment suffers from ignorance likely caused by the nostalgic effect games you played in your youth can have on your judgment.
Games from your childhood always seem better than those today while that is not actually the case.
Do you really think graphics somehow triumphs a good story? Why would an increase in graphics technology even affect story elements of a game? Shouldn't they simply paint the scene better?
Games today have many great stories behind them, honestly, I don't even know what he was thinking when he made that post or if he was thinking at all. Fallout 3, Assasin's creed, Half life 2, all games with good graphics (given the time they where made). Do those games have crap stories?
Oh and in case you were wondering, I loved zelda like any normal kid. I don't think many games have had or even could have the same impact zelda had on me.[/QUOTE]
I disagree. I find nostalgia to be terribly overrated and I seriously don't understand what most people's obsession with it is. I only got the Zelda N64 games and the Pokémon games for gameboy color in the last couple of years and I love them all a lot more than most games these days.
I don't disagree that there are good games these days, just that the ratio of shit games to good games it much higher than it used to be. Or to be more accurate, it seems that way since the games that aren't so good get more publicity anyway these days.
There are a lot of "gamers" who do have the misconception that graphics make a game good in any case, and there are a few companies who in my opinion cater for these kind of gamers, or gamers who want a quantity of games, more than those who just want good stories.
[QUOTE=Pixelnator;26428166]OH MY GOD THEY DECIDED TO ADD STUFF INTO THEIR INTERPRETATION OF THE SONG!:derp:[/QUOTE]
if this song would be implanted into your brain like it is to mine and has that nostalgic factor to it then you'd understand why modifying the song is blasphemy to me.
[QUOTE=gamefreek76;26426913]A simple "Ha! Ha! No!" would have sufficed.[/QUOTE]
Dude this made me laugh so hard.
[QUOTE=Itachi_Crow;26424940]Aha. See, that provides a lot more insight as to your feelings on the subject than an image macro does.[/quote]
Honestly, seeing all the agrees on his statement and knowing it would get a bunch more sort of made me just want to tell him he was wrong and walk away. Though, after seeing someone was curious, I couldn't resist.
[QUOTE=Itachi_Crow;26424940]I agree, there seems to be a misconception that better graphics leaves less time for the developers to polish the story. I love OOT to death, but that story was pretty basic and straightforward. Not saying it was bad, just straightforward. Some of those games you mentioned have much deeper, similar quality lore compared to LoZ's and they manage to look at least acceptably pretty.
Now that said I'd really rather have a game with good story and gameplay and mediocre-to-shit graphics than I would have a beautiful game with awful story and meh gameplay, but there are plenty of games that excel in all three of those areas.[/QUOTE]
Its good to see you agree with me. Like I said, dude2193's (lol) post will probably get a bunch more agrees because people just don't think when they read that post which actually says a lot. Its making a huge statement really and people just accept it which shouldn't be your first reaction to huge sweeping statements like that because they're bound to being inaccurate or just plain wrong. Alas, thinkers are the minority and, in a way, that's a good thing... if you're a thinker of course.
[QUOTE=Rasrap Smurf;26428709]I disagree. I find nostalgia to be terribly overrated and I seriously don't understand what most people's obsession with it is. I only got the Zelda N64 games and the Pokémon games for gameboy color in the last couple of years and I love them all a lot more than most games these days.[/quote]
Did you play Zelda when you were a child? If you did and don't have some sort of condition that causes memory loss then surley it would have a nostalgic effect on you. If you only recently played the game (within the last few years) then of course it wouldn't have a nostalgic effect on you; its not part of your childhood.
[QUOTE=Rasrap Smurf;26428709]I don't disagree that there are good games these days, just that the ratio of shit games to good games it much higher than it used to be. Or to be more accurate, it seems that way since the games that aren't so good get more publicity anyway these days.
There are a lot of "gamers" who do have the misconception that graphics make a game good in any case, and there are a few companies who in my opinion cater for these kind of gamers, or gamers who want a quantity of games, more than those who just want good stories.[/QUOTE]
I'd like you to list any number of games you feel have a good story from the "golden era" and I guarantee you I could match it with games made during the "graphics age" (which I disagree with this mindset).
[QUOTE=Mutex;26429079]Did you play Zelda when you were a child? If you did and don't have some sort of condition that causes memory loss then surley it would have a nostalgic effect on you. If you only recently played the game (within the last few years) then of course it wouldn't have a nostalgic effect on you; its not part of your childhood.[/quote]
I didn't play those games specifically back then, but I did play games back then and I really don't get what this obsession people here have with "nostalgia". Sure I fondly remember back on the games I played back then but I sure don't act as if they're better than they are just because I have good memories of them.
As well as this I often I find people blaming hate towards newer games of a long running series (e.g. Pokémon) on "nostalgia goggles", no matter what their reasons are for disliking the newer games. In times like these I think it's just an excuse people use to back up their position without having to actually give reasons.
[quote]I'd like you to list any number of games you feel have a good story from the "golden era" and I guarantee you I could match it with games made during the "graphics age" (which I disagree with this mindset).[/QUOTE]
First of all, I said "I don't disagree that there are good games these days".
And seeing as how there are more games being made these days then of course there are going to be more good games around now. What I'm saying is that a higher percentage of games (or at least ones that are publicised) aren't as good.
Referring back to dude2193's post, I didn't take it to mean how people respond to a game, but more how they're rated on websites that rate games. Often a game with a good story but not necessarily with good graphics could get the same "score" as games with good graphics with a mediocre story. Of course these websites aren't exactly the best place to determine a game's quality but they do affect what games people buy etc.
And of course there are those few people who do in fact think better graphics = better gameplay (there's one in my class at school, I've given up trying to explain to him that "looks better" doesn't mean "better graphics").
[QUOTE=Wheeze201;26426327]They didn't do it right. Like said 2 times before. Off key. And theres some stuff added that wasn't even in the original sound track.[/QUOTE]
Are you familiar with how song covers work? Artistic license?
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Tc2Gtlv3ac[/media]
I bet that gave you a heart attack eh
[QUOTE=Hardpoint Nomad;26425413]Off key as fuck.
Listen to it in comparison to the original
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43IPAGw01IY[/media][/QUOTE]
I remember those first two pictures from the manga for Ocarina of Time. It was a good read.
[editline]1st December 2010[/editline]
[QUOTE=Wheeze201;26428784]if this song would be implanted into your brain like it is to mine and has that nostalgic factor to it then you'd understand why modifying the song is blasphemy to me.[/QUOTE]
Oh no they missed a few notes and messed up very slightly a few times. It's the end of days! All hope is gone!
I fucking remember that weirdo with the music box standing in the tower doing his thing. Fucking love The Ocarina of time. It was the perfect zelda game.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;26432643]Are you familiar with how song covers work? Artistic license?
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Tc2Gtlv3ac[/media]
I bet that gave you a heart attack eh[/QUOTE]
CSGuitar89 does it better:
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vF_foxXkGMs[/media]
I love this guy's videos.
I shed a tear for my lost childhood.
[QUOTE=Rasrap Smurf;26432340]I didn't play those games specifically back then, but I did play games back then and I really don't get what this obsession people here have with "nostalgia". Sure I fondly remember back on the games I played back then but I sure don't act as if they're better than they are just because I have good memories of them.
As well as this I often I find people blaming hate towards newer games of a long running series (e.g. Pokémon) on "nostalgia goggles", no matter what their reasons are for disliking the newer games. In times like these I think it's just an excuse people use to back up their position without having to actually give reasons.[/quote]
I find it hard to believe you don't understand what nostalgia is and the sensation of it. Its a proven fact that things impact you more when you are younger. I'm not going to give you a physiology lesson but looking up Sigmund Freud is a good start if your really don't understand, which is ok.
[QUOTE=Rasrap Smurf;26432340]First of all, I said "I don't disagree that there are good games these days".
And seeing as how there are more games being made these days then of course there are going to be more good games around now. What I'm saying is that a higher percentage of games (or at least ones that are publicised) aren't as good.
Referring back to dude2193's post, I didn't take it to mean how people respond to a game, but more how they're rated on websites that rate games. Often a game with a good story but not necessarily with good graphics could get the same "score" as games with good graphics with a mediocre story. Of course these websites aren't exactly the best place to determine a game's quality but they do affect what games people buy etc.
And of course there are those few people who do in fact think better graphics = better gameplay (there's one in my class at school, I've given up trying to explain to him that "looks better" doesn't mean "better graphics").[/QUOTE]
I really don't get what you're trying to say here. If there is a higher quantity of good games released now than there was in years before then what is the problem? Who cares if there are a lot more crap games? (supposing that statement is even true) Just don't buy the bad ones.
The point is his statement is wrong and misguided. Games from the 90s where simply different not better.
Also the argument that better graphics means better gameplay is not an invalid one. Graphics do in fact influence gameplay and vice versa. For simplicity sake, better graphics enhance the gaming experience and if you argue that to be false then you need to think a bit harder. Now graphics and gameplay are two seperate constructs but if you look at graphics as an enhancer for gameplay (e.g. if you have two games with the same gameplay but one with better graphics, surely the gameplay+graphics is more fun to play and in that way the gameplay is better because better means more enjoyable) then their relationship with each other becomes clear.
Off the top of my head the game Amnesia relies pretty heavily on modern graphics technology to deliver a truly frightening experience and almost make you act differently out of fear than if the graphics where N64 style.
I'd also like to just point out that the storyline is just one aspect of a game. Games can still be engaging without a decent story. My example of that would be the GTA series of which the story I really never cared for.
I've gotten pretty off-topic, I'll stop now.
[QUOTE=Xera;26437841]CSGuitar89 does it better:
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vF_foxXkGMs[/media]
I love this guy's videos.[/QUOTE]
I only skimmed over that one because I thought the whole thing was acoustic. Nice find.
Song of Storms is my favorite Zelda song, however, there isn't much to it, so I love when people put their own twist on it.
This is why I check wimp daily.
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