• "The GOP should support its openly gay candidates" - House Speaker John Boehner
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[quote]Washington (CNN) – House Speaker John Boehner said Thursday he believes the GOP should support the party's openly gay candidates. "I do," he said when asked by CNN Chief Congressional Correspondent Dana Bash if he backs such House hopefuls.[/quote] [url]http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/12/05/boehner-gop-should-support-its-openly-gay-candidates/[/url]
i think boner is trying to tell us something.
[QUOTE=Aj;43096366]i think boner is trying to tell us something.[/QUOTE] He's got a boner for gays
Ok gentlemen! Send in those rainbows! :v:
Seriously, if the GOP wants to be competitive in elections they will have to abandon some of their most unpopular social opinions. Attitudes in America have been shifting and appealing to the far right religious conservatives that are against homosexuals will not win them national elections.
Politicians be politickin.
If the GOP wishes to succeed at all, it needs to get buddy-buddy with the Libertarian/Middle-Grounders. Best way to do that? Accuse the Democrats of blowing everyone's money on useless programs, and take the present healthcare system and actually make it a true Nationalized Healthcare system. Have support from all Republicans, and the second any Democrat votes no against it, they would be judged for being hypocritical of their original platforms, and would lose a lot of middle-grounders.
[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;43096432]If the GOP wishes to succeed at all, it needs to get buddy-buddy with the Libertarian/Middle-Grounders. Best way to do that? Accuse the Democrats of blowing everyone's money on useless programs, and take the present healthcare system and actually make it a true Nationalized Healthcare system. Have support from all Republicans, and the second any Democrat votes no against it, they would be judged for being hypocritical of their original platforms, and would lose a lot of middle-grounders.[/QUOTE] So far, the mainstream GOP have avoided Libertarians like the plague. I'd much rather the Libertarian sect of the GOP just branch off into the actual Libertarian Party.
[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;43096432]If the GOP wishes to succeed at all, it needs to get buddy-buddy with the Libertarian/Middle-Grounders. Best way to do that? Accuse the Democrats of blowing everyone's money on useless programs, and take the present healthcare system and actually make it a true Nationalized Healthcare system. Have support from all Republicans, and the second any Democrat votes no against it, they would be judged for being hypocritical of their original platforms, and would lose a lot of middle-grounders.[/QUOTE] There is no chance Republicans would ever support an NHS because of their blind disdain towards Socialism. If somehow they did (which would blow my mind) the democrats would support this most likely.
[QUOTE=stewe231;43096484]There is no chance Republicans would ever support an NHS because of their blind disdain towards Socialism. If somehow they did (which would blow my mind) the democrats would support this most likely.[/QUOTE] Don't suggest its going to increase taxes or anything. Tell them that we are currently spending twice as much on healthcare compared to other countries, and that without Nationalized Healthcare we cannot keep a healthy consumerbase. Or as I say constantly: The only guys making money off a corpse is the morgue worker and coffin maker.
[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;43096565]Don't suggest its going to increase taxes or anything. Tell them that we are currently spending twice as much on healthcare compared to other countries, and that without Nationalized Healthcare we cannot keep a healthy consumerbase. Or as I say constantly: The only guys making money off a corpse is the morgue worker and coffin maker.[/QUOTE] You would have to move most the money we spend on healthcare through the government with taxes, which the Tea Party doesn't want. It would be cheaper, but Republicans wont support it. Most have taken the moronic pledge to NEVER, EVER raise taxes. To the Tea Party, Overpaying for something in the private sector = good.
This is what fear sounds like. Boner and the others are finally realizing that acting like it's the 60s is a losing strategy and they've absorbed a cancerous anti-party into themselves.
Watch as the tea party loses its shit.
[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;43096432]If the GOP wishes to succeed at all, it needs to get buddy-buddy with the Libertarian/Middle-Grounders. Best way to do that? Accuse the Democrats of blowing everyone's money on useless programs, and take the present healthcare system and actually make it a true Nationalized Healthcare system. Have support from all Republicans, and the second any Democrat votes no against it, they would be judged for being hypocritical of their original platforms, and would lose a lot of middle-grounders.[/QUOTE] you're basically arguing for a complete reversal of the gop's current ideals which yeah, i agree, is the only way for it to succeed
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;43096467]So far, the mainstream GOP have avoided Libertarians like the plague. I'd much rather the Libertarian sect of the GOP just branch off into the actual Libertarian Party.[/QUOTE] Tea Party Libertarians would probably hate the Libertarian party. The second Libertarian party they would create would probably be horrifying.
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;43097345]Tea Party Libertarians would probably hate the Libertarian party. The second Libertarian party they would create would probably be horrifying.[/QUOTE] And if they just joined the libertarian party like Scorpius said, members of the current LP would probably jump ship and form a new party. The [URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPXYWhZlj0g"]GOP's idea[/URL] of libertarianism and [URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtCzqiA1sV4"]actual right-libertarianism[/URL] are pretty much incompatible. Tea party libertarians are reactionary, actual libertarians are just progressives that don't understand how an economy works.
I doubt the GOP would support gay candidates as political individuals. More as token member(s) they can slap on adverts to harvest votes under the guise that they're not bigots after all. Though the thought of a MtF African-American homosexual GOP candidate amuses me purely because that would be so unlikely and absurd on so many levels. And that it would alienate a big part of their bible-belt fanbase.
You could have named this "Boehner for gays" Scorpious. Goddamnit.
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