[video=youtube;p3mI0Ic8n-M]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3mI0Ic8n-M[/video]
Because of how big this game is this is particularly interesting
game bans for shit like this, good god, how embarassing
I'd like to link this post. They deserved the bans, imo.
[URL]http://forum.f13game.com/index.php?/topic/8732-meanwhile-on-reddit/&page=4#comment-102922[/URL]
I've been looking into this since before the video and it didn't really seem like the developers were in the wrong, but I don't think I can do a good job talking about it and stuff talking about it seems to be scattered around a bit. Both sides seem to have proof from what I've read but neither want to show it because it can reveal who was being harassed I believe. The bandwagon has turned into a real shithole on the subreddit and the game's hub.
EDIT: ...read the forum post?
The bans were deserved, but the fact that they haven't lifted a finger to the people who were instigating it all by griefing doesn't entirely give people high standards.
Strange for a game like this to not have some type of votekick system and instead have developers ban people from playing.
They also put their ToS on social media and no one had to accept it when launching the game/there be an announcement of it on the game.
So people are getting banned based on a ToS they never agreed to...
This is just all kinds of scummy and making false sexual harassment charges (towards a minor at that) against your consumer base hits an even bigger low.
The devs are absolutely immature and shady; as a friend said, it's nothing more than just an abuse of power on their part.
[QUOTE=Aw3s0m3n3ss;52449178]Strange for a game like this to not have some type of votekick system and instead have developers ban people from playing.[/QUOTE]
The game has absolutely nothing at all. Not even an in-game report function. People that team with Jason or Hack face absolutely no reprecussions for cheating. I've tried to stand up for this game on the basis of how much fun I have with it, but the precedent and level of bias this event set just makes it impossible. It's gone the route of Dead by Daylight where a fantastic game has been ruined by awful developers.
Well I was interested in this game but watching this I can say I won't be wasting money on it
[QUOTE=ThatSprite;52449727]The game has absolutely nothing at all. Not even an in-game report function. People that team with Jason or Hack face absolutely no reprecussions for cheating. I've tried to stand up for this game on the basis of how much fun I have with it, but the precedent and level of bias this event set just makes it impossible. It's gone the route of Dead by Daylight where a fantastic game has been ruined by awful developers.[/QUOTE]
It's a real shame since the concept of a horror multiplayer game where players pit against each other as the killer and the survivors is really fun and novel. Hope Last Year manages to break the trend and actually make one that's polished and well-designed.
thank god, i almost bought the game
dont want to get banned 5 minutes in just for talkin shit to other players
Honestly its really not that great. ive been really frustrated with this game since the start it seems to be increasingly harder to actually play as Jason I can go 10+ rounds and be stuck as the survivor to actually get it once then everyone leaves and my turn is over.. honestly wouldn't waste you're money on this
Thank god I've stumbled upon this video before giving these cunts any cash.
[QUOTE=Ricenchicken;52449513]They also put their ToS on social media and no one had to accept it when launching the game/there be an announcement of it on the game.
So people are getting banned based on a ToS they never agreed to...[/QUOTE]
ToS is bullshit to boot, anyways
[editline]9th July 2017[/editline]
[QUOTE=John Fisher;52449063]I'd like to link this post. They deserved the bans, imo.
[URL]http://forum.f13game.com/index.php?/topic/8732-meanwhile-on-reddit/&page=4#comment-102922[/URL]
I've been looking into this since before the video and it didn't really seem like the developers were in the wrong, but I don't think I can do a good job talking about it and stuff talking about it seems to be scattered around a bit. Both sides seem to have proof from what I've read but neither want to show it because it can reveal who was being harassed I believe. The bandwagon has turned into a real shithole on the subreddit and the game's hub.[/QUOTE]
so its pretty much its just ok to use a cheat related ban system to ban someone 'because they are meanie heads' once or twice
but they won't ban griefers tho that caused problems
yeah no
[editline]9th July 2017[/editline]
Like why don't they ban the minor? if he isn't old enough to play, they clearly should be banning him shouldn't he?
Do they have a laundry list of shit this guys done or something?
I don't see trolling videos on his youtube page and as far as I can tell its pretty much 'you act like a dick to the devs special friends once, you get kicked out'
I wonder if I could team kill for days and basically bait people into flaming, and them make a list of people for the devs to ban.
[QUOTE=J!NX;52450191]ToS is bullshit to boot, anyways
[editline]9th July 2017[/editline]
so its pretty much its just ok to use a cheat related ban system to ban someone 'because they are meanie heads' once or twice
but they won't ban griefers tho that caused problems
yeah no
[editline]9th July 2017[/editline]
Like why don't they ban the minor? if he isn't old enough to play, they clearly should be banning him shouldn't he?[/QUOTE]
No, they were banned for harassing them for over eight minutes because of an argument and made the "sexual harassment" (not how they should refer to this, I agree) remarks with some that involved the kid in the middle of it. The others went after them because of the repeated harassment (mute was possibly bugged), killed them and went back to playing. They massively overreacted and earned a ban.
They only knew one person that worked at IllFonic and told them about it. They're also not banning the 12-year-old because it's up to the parents to let them play the game.
EDIT: ah. yeeeaah he should have got a temp ban instead. vote kick or three strikes system would have been better. though I like that they're rooting out toxicity
I love how they say they will not be releasing evidence, basically admitting that they don't have any logs.
[QUOTE=John Fisher;52451425]No, they were banned for harassing them for over eight minutes because of an argument and made the "sexual harassment" remarks that involved the kid in the middle of it. The others went after them because of the repeated harassment, killed them and went back to playing. They massively overreacted and earned a ban.
They only knew one person that worked at IllFonic and told them about it. They're also not banning the 12-year-old because it's up to the parents to let them play the game.[/QUOTE]
And how is a permaban the logical conclusion to this
Fuck me not even on fp do you get permabanned this fast for flaming
[editline]9th July 2017[/editline]
Maybe everyone on fp who is a meanyhead should be permabanned the moment they step out of line
Wtf is a kid even doing in this game to boot if its against this strict strict tos? Is he above 13?
[QUOTE=John Fisher;52451425]
EDIT: ah. yeeeaah he should have got a temp ban instead. vote kick or three strikes system would have been better. though I like that they're rooting out toxicity[/QUOTE]
temp ban would have been good, temp ban the others too
best way to make someone consider what they did wrong is to make them incapable of playing for a little while, like a few days or week or so
If there was really any sexual harassment of a minor then they should be alerting authorities to the issue. That they're not even savvy enough to claim the evidence is being withheld for this reason just says they're not doing that and likely don't actually have any evidence that supports their decision to begin with.
[QUOTE=_FR_Starfox64;52451573]I love how they say they will not be releasing evidence, basically admitting that they don't have any logs.[/QUOTE]
This is why I'm always streaming (to no one, usually) when I play online games like this and export the stream to my archival accounts. More than once I've had people try to claim shit throughout the years and a simple link of the archived footage to an administrator is all it takes for the problems to go away. And if they don't then I have proof for the public (which helps ensure the staff doesn't try any fuckery).
[video=youtube;x7mS-bgYR5M]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7mS-bgYR5M[/video]
[editline]10th July 2017[/editline]
tbh I'm not sure what Sid expected??? I'm really not liking that he feels the need to tell his viewers what to do right now.
Personally I wouldn't be so quick to trust IllFonic after what they did to Nexuiz. Pretty scummy all around honestly.
I feel bad for Sid. Most other youtuber's fanbases wouldn't do this, I don't understand why his feels empowered to.
From the guy who instigated all this with his Steam review;
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For real though, yet again people take shit way too far to defend their rights of being a douche, which I guarantee you is what 80% of the people taking this too far is fighting for, not "the devs played favourites!!"
You know a decent, but not full amount of that I'd chalk up to having not enough people on their team. Making a game is hard.
I just wish they waited friday the 13th of october of this year first. Wasted that completely. Once in a long time chance.
That and it'd have given them the time they needed to polish a bit hopefully.
Regardless the game doesn't look terrible just, in need of a bigger team.
Reading the subreddit for this game sure is a treat.
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This Sid Alpha is such a sweaty. Loves to shit stir just for views. Full of misinformation and his fanbase are the cunts who do the doxxing and DDosing, detrimental to the gaming community.
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Yea, he already fucked up the first time and people are still linking this garbage?? If a meteor smashed this guys house nothing of substance would be lost.
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A backer got their money back, so anyone else can. So I fail to see how this is drama. This community loves to kill it's own game..[/quote]
Some guy made a video that instigated death threats and I don't like that? He should die!
People can be truly dense sometimes.
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