• Settlers uproot 53 olive trees in Qalqiliya, attack farmer
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[quote]Israeli settlers on Tuesday uprooted 53 olive trees in Kafr Laqif village west of Qalqiliya, officials said. Ghassan Douglas, a Palestinian Authority official who monitors settlement activities in the northern West Bank, said that a number of Israeli settlers from the Karni Shomron settlement uprooted around 53 olive trees belonging to Suleiman Jaber. [/quote] [quote]The Israeli military often protects Israeli settlers who target Palestinians. Additionally, Israeli forces also target those Palestinians who respond to settler attacks. More than 500,000 Israeli settlers live in settlements across the West Bank and East Jerusalem, in contravention of international law. [/quote] Where is the self-proclaimed "most moral army in the world™"? [url]http://www.maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=640115[/url]
And watch as those who claim this attack never happened arrive, just like the previous time this happened. Seriously though, olive trees are valuable, why would anyone want to destroy them for any other reason than to cause problems for someone else.
<Insert more harsh language and condemnation from the paper tigers known as the UN> because that's all the attention this incident will get. I think I've moved beyond being disgusted with Israel. Israel is the scum of the earth, and so are most of the Israelis that live in and around there.
[QUOTE=GiGaBiTe;42615127]<Insert more harsh language and condemnation from the paper tigers known as the UN> because that's all the attention this incident will get. I think I've moved beyond being disgusted with Israel. Israel is the scum of the earth, and so are most of the Israelis that live in and around there.[/QUOTE] You know you're just as bad as they are in regards to your way of thinking? I mean, if it's that hard to understand, [QUOTE=GiGaBiTe;42615127] I think I've moved beyond being disgusted with Palestine. Palestine is the scum of the earth, and so are most of the Palestinians that live in and around there.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=draugur;42615298]You know you're just as bad as they are in regards to your way of thinking? I mean, if it's that hard to understand,[/QUOTE] Ok then, so it is ok to be politically hypocritical, destroy hundreds of year old trees, block humanitarian aid, and stifle an entire nation? Isreal or it's people have done every single one of those. How many of those have Palestine done?
[QUOTE=deadoon;42615325]Ok then, so it is ok to be politically hypocritical, destroy hundreds of year old trees, block humanitarian aid, and stifle an entire nation? Isreal or it's people have done every single one of those.[/QUOTE] Yeah, and it is just as wrong to say that most of the people living in said country are disgusting scum of the Earth. I'm not excusing what they've done, I'm saying that the obvious circle jerk of hate is bullshit. You can turn that however you want, but you're generalizing an entire nation's CIVILIAN POPULATION by the actions of the NATION'S GOVERNMENT. You're lumping in every Israeli citizen with the ruling clergy. I doubt the Arabs that live in Israel appreciate that, but what should we care? They're obviously all Zionist extremist scum! You may as well just start saying that every American supports the idea of a police state that spies on and enacts military diplomacy on any nation it sees fit to profit from because the nation's top leading elite have decided to take those actions. You may as well condemn the actions of Islamic extremists as the beliefs of every single Moslem in the entire world, because obviously they represent the entirety of the religion of Islam.
[QUOTE=draugur;42615331]Yeah, and it is just as wrong to say that most of the people living in said country are disgusting scum of the Earth. I'm not excusing what they've done, I'm saying that the obvious circle jerk of hate is bullshit. [/QUOTE] How about actually saying where he was wrong, rather than dumbing people and appealing to emotion. [QUOTE] You can turn that however you want, but you're generalizing an entire nation's CIVILIAN POPULATION by the actions of the NATION'S GOVERNMENT. You're lumping in every Israeli citizen with the ruling clergy. I doubt the Arabs that live in Israel appreciate that, but what should we care? They're obviously all Zionist extremist scum! [/QUOTE] But the government aren't the ones taking these actions, these are civilians, which get the go-ahead by the government through protection and "settlements". [QUOTE] You may as well just start saying that every American supports the idea of a police state that spies on and enacts military diplomacy on any nation it sees fit to profit from because the nation's top leading elite have decided to take those actions. [/QUOTE] [URL="http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1313307"]When a notable amount of the population supports the idea, it tends to be attributed to all of them.[/URL] [QUOTE] You may as well condemn the actions of Islamic extremists as the beliefs of every single Moslem in the entire world, because obviously they represent the entirety of the religion of Islam.[/QUOTE] We condemn extremists, many(not all) muslim leaders condemn extremists, Israel does not condemn these people, they practically support them. See the difference?
Don't generalize, though to be fair settlers are entitled cunts. Whole bunch of them are just entitled white people who traveled from the US or Russia to live out a messianic fantasy at the expense of Middle-Easterners who actually have a reason to live there. On the other hand, you can find plenty of Israelis who are against the occupation and/or are ashamed of Israel's treatment towards the Palestinians.
[QUOTE=Lamar;42615450]Don't generalize deadoon, though to be fair settlers are entitled cunts. Whole bunch of them are just entitled white people who traveled from the US or Russia to live out a messianic fantasy at the expense of Middle-Easterners who actually have a reason to live there.[/QUOTE] I'm trying not to generalize, but a major issue is that when a government does not call out the actions of it's extremest factions it is able to easily become problematic. That is my main point, until the government get's their head out of their ass, this problem will only get worse. The people living there just get caught in the crossfire of the situation. I may dislike Israel as it is currently, but I judge the individual when there is an individual to be judged.
Except the problem you're not getting is that the extremists in Israel are the government clergy, AKA, the guys leading the country. They're not going to be voted out of power or anything, they are literally a theocracy.
[QUOTE=draugur;42620246]Except the problem you're not getting is that the extremists in Israel are the government clergy, AKA, the guys leading the country. They're not going to be voted out of power or anything, they are literally a theocracy.[/QUOTE] I don't think Israel is ruled by priests.
[QUOTE=mugofdoom;42620721]I don't think Israel is ruled by priests.[/QUOTE] Clergy is a term that means simply the formal leaders of a religion. The Knesset (Israeli parliament) is composed of religious leaders who use their follower's devout faith to keep them elected, not only this but as the Israeli upper class are mostly European Jews, you find that the people who are rich enough to run to be representatives of a party are these upper class clergymen, and anyone with any sense of political knowledge of the U.S. will realize what that means. You end up with worthless elections that circle jerk and favour the political and moral agendas of those in power.
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