• Russia Walks Back Threats of Retaliation If US Strikes Syria Again.
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[QUOTE]Kremlin officials on Monday publicly distanced themselves from a what appeared to be a threat by commanders on the ground in Syria to attack US interests if the Trump administration orders any more strikes against the regime of Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad. The move came in reaction to a statement published by the Assad-friendly Al-Watan newspaper and attributed to the joint command center in Syria that is shared by Russia, Iran, Hezbollah militia and other forces supporting the regime in the ongoing civil war.[/QUOTE] [URL="http://finance.yahoo.com/news/russia-walks-back-threats-retaliation-125400006.html"]http://finance.yahoo.com/news/russia-walks-back-threats-retaliation-125400006.html[/URL]
Even Putin can't stump the Trump
[img]http://www.11points.com/images/americatryandstopusshirt.jpg[/img] god bless america
We finally did it, we called Putin's bluff.
[QUOTE=Chonch;52087208]We finally did it, we called Putin's bluff.[/QUOTE] And all it took was dozens of missiles.
Watching everything unfold is basically playing a civ game.
[QUOTE=redBadger;52087416]Watching everything unfold is basically playing a civ game.[/QUOTE] I think you have it a tad backwards...
[QUOTE=redBadger;52087416]Watching everything unfold is basically playing a civ game.[/QUOTE] i really hope we've been treating gandhi ok
[QUOTE=redBadger;52087416]Watching everything unfold is basically playing a civ game.[/QUOTE] India is going to nuke everyone aren't they
[QUOTE=redBadger;52087416]Watching everything unfold is basically playing a civ game.[/QUOTE]The Barbarians retaliate with a surprise attack.
No more Civ.
I guess this 'problem' between the Chiefs and the Generals on the ground probably explains why the VVS were so aggressive towards RAF aircraft during the early days. Someone's probably going to get chewed.
The fact that people actually expected WW3 over some half demolished shit hole is rather hilarious.
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;52088613]The fact that people actually expected WW3 over some half demolished shit hole is rather hilarious.[/QUOTE] cries of WW3 where perhaps overly dramatic but it certainly was a very worrying looking situation. things like this can very well seem like catalysts for larger conflicts
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;52088613]The fact that people actually expected WW3 over some half demolished shit hole is rather hilarious.[/QUOTE] WWI started from one guy assassinating another country's leader
[QUOTE=KillerJaguar;52088999]WWI started from one guy assassinating another country's leader[/QUOTE] Alongside like 50 other international factors
[QUOTE=Yogkog;52089012]Alongside like 50 other international factors[/QUOTE] to be honest all of those other factors had been in play for years and hadn't yet resulted in war - many of them were successfully defused and there was no reason why in the particular case that sparked WW1 it should have led to war (most people on all sides didn't think a war was going to even break out) wars start randomly for petty reasons, they never have grand causes or reasons that make them inevitable or a near-certain thing
[QUOTE=KillerJaguar;52088999]WWI started from one guy assassinating another country's leader[/QUOTE] Your school must auto-give you an F for failing WWI history. [editline]11th April 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=Sobotnik;52089018]to be honest all of those other factors had been in play for years and hadn't yet resulted in war - many of them were successfully defused and there was no reason why in the particular case that sparked WW1 it should have led to war (most people on all sides didn't think a war was going to even break out) [/QUOTE] Not quite. Pretty much everyone knew that shit is about to hit the fan, but nobody saw a decent enough opportunity. This was back in the times when wars were (relatively) pretty common
[QUOTE=CruelAddict;52089215]Your school must auto-give you an F for failing WWI history. [editline]11th April 2017[/editline] Not quite. Pretty much everyone knew that shit is about to hit the fan, but nobody saw a decent enough opportunity. This was back in the times when wars were (relatively) pretty common[/QUOTE] This^ Hell, ww1 was originally meant to be fought in the original grit and luck fashion as the french had conducted for decades beforehand. The technology is what caused the war to be so gruesome that everyone had to start digging in. It escalated in a way that no single country was prepared for. There is a huge difference between the implications and what would be considered a world war now, and what it would have been back then. The stakes are much higher now, especially with MAD. No war will be sparked from a couple of missiles.
You guys fail to understand what has happened: We told Russia and Syria about the oncoming attack, this is known fact. The entire purpose of the airbase attack wasn't to disable it, but rather make everyone in the international community shut up, while at the same time pushing Russia to be the main air asset of the Syrian government. That's it. It wasn't some big show-off of shock n' awe, but rather something which was carefully pieced together in order to make the loud majority feel satisfied while all factions go back to doing what they do. Ideally, we will murder ISIS out of existence, along with Al-Nursa. From this point, we federalize Syria and give some sense of autonomy for certain regions, all the while giving more power to the parliament and secularizing the country to avoid any bullshit with Islamic fundies going nutty. In turn for doing this, the United Nations will put up a peacekeeping force with the United States and Russia cooperating to deal with the current Islamic terrorist threat through out Syria. This is realistically the only solution for the Syrian Civil War, hence why Russia brought it up in the Astana Peace Talks, and is still pushing for it.
[QUOTE=KillerJaguar;52088999]WWI started from one guy assassinating another country's leader[/QUOTE] Yeah but all those nations have been itching to go to war. Franz Ferdinand was very influential and was the only person keeping Austria-Hungary from going to war. They fucked up BADLY by assassinating him since it resulted in the exact opposite of what they wanted.
[QUOTE=CruelAddict;52089215]Not quite. Pretty much everyone knew that shit is about to hit the fan, but nobody saw a decent enough opportunity. This was back in the times when wars were (relatively) pretty common[/QUOTE] financial markets and international trade in addition to transport acted as though there wasn't going to be a war the First World War came out of a complete left field and took literally everyone by surprise, and it morphed into something that almost nobody predicted. you can say the war was inevitable with the benefit of hindsight - but the reality is that it was a randomly event out of nowhere that exploded rapidly out of control there was nothing inevitable nor certain about it. [QUOTE=Dr.C;52090012]Yeah but all those nations have been itching to go to war. Franz Ferdinand was very influential and was the only person keeping Austria-Hungary from going to war. They fucked up BADLY by assassinating him since it resulted in the exact opposite of what they wanted.[/QUOTE] how come they didnt go to war in the dozens of various crisis's (balkan wars, young turks, etc) that broke out with regularity all the time beforehand? a lot of them were certainly more serious (actual major wars and revolutions) than some serb murdering an inbred german aristocrat
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;52090034]how come they didnt go to war in the dozens of various crisis's (balkan wars, young turks, etc) that broke out with regularity all the time beforehand? a lot of them were certainly more serious (actual major wars and revolutions) than some serb murdering an inbred german aristocrat[/QUOTE] Primarily because The Ottoman empire lost. You can't start ww1 while in a defeated state. Serbia had broken up all of the austria-hungary penninsula and that mean't there would have been no way for ww1 to start at that point.
[QUOTE=Chonch;52087208]We finally did it, we called Putin's bluff.[/QUOTE] Didn't you say that Hillary Clinton was going to spark World War III by doing exactly this?
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;52088613]The fact that people actually expected WW3 over some half demolished shit hole is rather hilarious.[/QUOTE] Pretty sure almost every was saying it as an ironic echo to "Shillary no-fly zone WW3"
[QUOTE=KillerJaguar;52088999]WWI started from one guy assassinating another country's leader[/QUOTE] Well yes assassinating a countries monarchy is generally a pretty big move. I don't see anyone trying to kill Putin right now. [editline]11th April 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=Mingebox;52090729]Pretty sure almost every was saying it as an ironic echo to "Shillary no-fly zone WW3"[/QUOTE] Nah I saw alt-righters genuinely upset about it and thought Trump has betrayed them and was going to start WW3
The message about retaliation came from Hezbollah's propaganda wing, which Russia/Putin most certainly did not had any part in. There was no threat by Russia in the first place. But it's a great way to drum up the illusion of an American "victory" over Russia.
[QUOTE=Swebonny;52091394]The message about retaliation came from Hezbollah's propaganda wing, which Russia/Putin most certainly did not had any part in. There was no threat by Russia in the first place. But it's a great way to drum up the illusion of an American "victory" over Russia.[/QUOTE] Except of course that also claimed that Russia Commanders in the ground agreed.
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;52090617]Didn't you say that Hillary Clinton was going to spark World War III by doing exactly this?[/QUOTE] No, I don't recall that I ever did.
[QUOTE=Chonch;52092126]No, I don't recall that I ever did.[/QUOTE] My bad, then. Must be confusing you for a different poster.
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