St.Louis Public Radio Asks Officers About The Impact of Anti-Police Sentiment
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[quote]Many protesters said that decision escalated tensions between the community and police. But McGuire said he knows that many protesters are peaceful, and police need to protect them and their rights. In fact, McGuire said he was worried, but grateful to some protesters who helped police identify agitators in the crowds.
But he said tear gas was necessary once Molotov cocktails and gunshots were fired.[/quote]
[quote]St. Louis County Police Officer Shawn McGuire, said he thinks many people also misunderstood the purpose of the controversial armored trucks police used in Ferguson.
"Those shots were very close, within 100 yards. I actually heard rounds zipping by my head. That's not a good feeling," he said. "That really kind of hurts your feelings when...politicians get involved and people in social media get involved, 'Well, what do they need those armored trucks for?' Well, we need them because we're getting shot at for no reason."[/quote]
[quote]"A state patrol officer was told by a protester that he is going to find his wife, he's going to hog tie the officer, and he's going to rape his wife while he watches," he said. "Another protester told me he's going to steal my gun and shoot my kids with it. Then you hear local news and national news, 'Why aren't they wearing their name tags?' Well, they're making threats against our family." [/quote]
[quote]"I do think that we have a lot of support for police," he said. "I think that some of the reporting has made it seem as if every African American hates police, and that's unfair for the African-American community, because that's not true. What is true is that we have some work to do."
He said police need to address protesters' frustrations.[/quote]
[quote]Jeff Roorda (the business manager of the St. Louis Police Officers Association) said when responding to the Shaw shooting] that while he didn't know why the officer involved waited to fire until he was shot at first, "that's not the standard that we should expect from police officers."
"To expect officers to have to be fired upon before they can return fire is just an impossible standard," he said. "Almost every officer I talk to the question is: 'What more do people expect of us?' And the answer is right now, the very vocal minority expect too much and the silent majority, most of the people out here in the St. Louis area, support police." [/quote]
[quote]"None of the information has come out yet; I don't know how you can judge someone already just based on what you think. We're not doing it," he said.
In other words, the grand jury in the Wilson-Brown case hasn't announced its decision yet. But when it does, whatever it decides, it's likely police will have more challenging work to do.[/quote]
I think it shines some light on the situation currently in Ferguson. This is entire situation is terrible and could have been avoided if law enforcement would've taken better steps to address community concerns. We still have little information about the shooting pending the grand jury's decision.
I don't think the amount of miss information and general shit stirring of the media helps tension. Alot of the things we see police do are simply reactions to protect themselves.
"But it's not just shouts being hurled at police; they've also had Molotov cocktails, rocks, and bottles of urine thrown their way, even been spit at..."
Like, the petrol bombs and bottle of piss were one thing, but the spitting is really crossing a line m8
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I think it shines some light on the situation currently in Ferguson. This is entire situation is terrible and could have been avoided if law enforcement would've taken better steps to address community concerns. We still have little information about the shooting pending the grand jury's decision.[/QUOTE]
I haven't read through all that, but I do know this: anyone proficient in reading micro-expressions or body language should go back and watch the police chief's press conferences. He was not on the side of serve and protect, period.
That certainly doesn't apply to every officer under his command, but it's still pretty telling. The actions of other officers against reported and civilians is also telling. It's not an enviable job, but the response until the highway patrol took over is absolutely unwarranted and disgraceful.
You may need an armored t-carrier, but you sure as hell don't need a t-carrier against unarmed civilians who are not looting nor starting fires nor attacking passers-by, ever. You also don't need to be shutting off journalist cameras, ever.
[quote] That certainly doesn't apply to every officer under his command [/quote]
[QUOTE=MakoSkyDub;46266004]"But it's not just shouts being hurled at police; they've also had Molotov cocktails, rocks, and bottles of urine thrown their way, even been spit at..."
Like, the petrol bombs and bottle of piss were one thing, but the spitting is really crossing a line m8[/QUOTE]
Believe it or not, spit can carry diseases.
[QUOTE=27X;46266881]I haven't read through all that, but I do know this: anyone proficient in reading micro-expressions or body language should go back and watch the police chief's press conferences. He was not on the side of serve and protect, period.
That certainly doesn't apply to every officer under his command, but it's still pretty telling. The actions of other officers against reported and civilians is also telling. It's not an enviable job, but the response until the highway patrol took over is absolutely unwarranted and disgraceful.
You may need an armored t-carrier, but you sure as hell don't need a t-carrier against unarmed civilians who are not looting nor starting fires nor attacking passers-by, ever. You also don't need to be shutting off journalist cameras, ever.[/QUOTE]
How do you know their unarmed? It's extremely easy to conceal bombs and handguns.
It's awesome to armchair retro-speculate, but news coverage was extensive and does not corroborate your theory at all.
[QUOTE=27X;46307003]It's awesome to armchair retro-speculate, but news coverage was extensive and does not corroborate your theory at all.[/QUOTE]
Aside from the fact that multiple militias, including the Missouri People's Militia was in the area, and even stated that they were concealed carrying most of the time unless they were guarding stores, or the multiple times officers were fired upon, or the cases of when civilians were guarding stores with shotguns and AR-15s.
Seriously, don't be naive. The police were literally being shot at by people who were coming from out of state, and when people ask why they were starting to amp up their gear in response, it's because they were full hearted expecting to duke it out with either an LA Riot scenario or have a standoff with some crazies.
'Hurt their feelings' because people made fun of their armored trucks oh boy.
[QUOTE=27X;46307003]It's awesome to armchair retro-speculate, but news coverage was extensive and does not corroborate your theory at all.[/QUOTE]
Sorry to bump, but to think the news tells the true story the entire time is not true. When looking at media you should have the mindset of "which poison do I want to read today" as every news source has a bias to it regardless of the form.
A common way to look at this is by an image that has circulated the internet about how differently (meant as a joke) news sources report something as simple as President Obama drinking a Pepsi. The underlying message to that is [I]how[/I] the news stations alter the topic to appease their readers. A pro-gun activist probably (because there are always exceptions) wont be reading FoxNews.
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