Up to 50 animals 'starve to death' at Venezuelan zoo as crippling economic downturn hits food suppli
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[QUOTE]Some 50 animals have starved to death in the last six months at one of Venezuela's main zoos, according to a union leader.
The deaths are linked to [URL="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/06/five-hundred-venezuelan-women-storm-colombian-border-in-search-o/"]chronic food shortages[/URL] that have plagued the crisis-stricken South American nation.
The fatalities at the Caricuao zoo in Caracas include Vietnamese pigs, tapirs, rabbits and birds - some of which had not eaten for two weeks, according to Marlene Sifontes, a union leader for employees of state parks agency Inparques, which oversees zoos. Other animals are at risk across the country.
Their troubles mirror those of Venezuelans who routinely skip meals or spend hours in supermarket lines, at times chanting "We want food!" or even looting, amid an unprecedented economic downturn in the Opec nation.
"The story of the animals at Caricuao is a metaphor for[URL="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/venezuela/"] Venezuelan suffering,[/URL]" said Sifontes.
Authorities have not given numbers, but state prosecutors have opened an investigation into the deaths of "various species of wildlife" at the zoo.
Currently, lions and tigers at the Caracas zoo are being fed mango and pumpkin by anxious staff to make up for reduced rations of meat, while an elephant is eating tropical fruit instead of its usual diet of hay, the union leader said.
President Nicolas Maduro blames the country's problems on an "economic war" waged by local opponents and the United States.
His critics say heavy reliance on oil, the price of which has fallen steeply, and unsustainable economic policy are to blame.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/28/animals-in-venezuelan-zoo-starve-to-death/[/url]
Feeding Lions fucking mangoes?
While that's bad, I am more concerned about people starving.
Maduro: 'the neoliberal imperialists did this, they also killed harambe and meanwhile the columbians took all the toilet paper'
Maduro is a fucking retard
[QUOTE=FlashMarsh;50789838]Maduro: 'the neoliberal imperialists did this, they also killed harambe and meanwhile the columbians took all the toilet paper'[/QUOTE]
Facepunch leftists: 'it's not REAL socialism, CORRUPTION did this to Venezuela. REAL socialism wouldn't have any corruption and will be a perfect utopia'
[QUOTE=Headhumpy;50794293]Facepunch leftists: 'it's not REAL socialism, CORRUPTION did this to Venezuela. REAL socialism wouldn't have any corruption and will be a perfect utopia'[/QUOTE]
It's socialism that was done the wrong way.
[QUOTE=MaximLaHaxim;50794313]It's socialism that was done the wrong way.[/QUOTE]
The thing is that you can apply that reasoning literally to anything.
The income-inequality in the western world is not due to Capitalism, this is just Capitalism done in the wrong way.
[QUOTE=bunguer;50794320]The thing is that you can apply that reasoning literally to anything.
The income-inequality in the western world is not due to Capitalism, this is just Capitalism done in the wrong way.[/QUOTE]
You can apply it when it's true.
This same argument shows up on every single Venezuela thread, and I always provide the same answer, it's [B]both[/B] policy and corruption that caused Venezuela's downfall. The insane economic policies of Chavez and Maduro wouldn't work even without corruption (Mainly because many of them are thinly veiled attempts to maintain their nepotistic economic interests and keeping cronyism alive), and due to how corrupt the government is the country couldn't work even if the economic policies made any sense.
The current biggest problem is how no world government actually gives a fuck, nobody is willing to straight up say that Venezuela is ruled by an insane dictator who is starving people while his friends and family get to live the life in Panama and the US. The people of the world don't know of the plight of the Venezuelan people because all of the leftist governments and media don't want to admit they were wrong in backing Chavez.
[QUOTE=Ignhelper;50789776]Feeding Lions fucking mangoes?[/QUOTE]
I saw people in Venezuela only eat breakfast and support themselves the rest of the day just eating mangos, which grow in abundance around Caracas. The situation over there is ghastly. People are dying left and right just queuing up for food.
[QUOTE=Big Bang;50794406]This same argument shows up on every single Venezuela thread, and I always provide the same answer, it's [B]both[/B] policy and corruption that caused Venezuela's downfall. The insane economic policies of Chavez and Maduro wouldn't work even without corruption (Mainly because many of them are thinly veiled attempts to maintain their nepotistic economic interests and keeping cronyism alive), and due to how corrupt the government is the country couldn't work even if the economic policies made any sense.
The current biggest problem is how no world government actually gives a fuck, nobody is willing to straight up say that Venezuela is ruled by an insane dictator who is starving people while his friends and family get to live the life in Panama and the US. The people of the world don't know of the plight of the Venezuelan people because all of the leftist governments and media don't want to admit they were wrong in backing Chavez.
I saw people in Venezuela only eat breakfast and support themselves the rest of the day just eating mangos, which grow in abundance around Caracas. The situation over there is ghastly. People are dying left and right just queuing up for food.[/QUOTE]
It's stupid, people are starving because of Maduro and the policies but left-wing people are burying their heads in the sand because they refuse to admit this. Hell, I'm left-leaning but christ, it's equally as bad as the ignorance of the right-wind idiots who like to throw their weight around.
I really don't know why people aren't actively fighting against Maduro. I mean, jesus, why haven't the military enacted a coup if it's got to the point where they're starving? The guy and his power base need to be dragged out of office.
[QUOTE=Headhumpy;50794293]Now look at me, as I construct a strawman and then visiously destroy it[/QUOTE]
just cut that shit out already.
If your post targets "leftists" "liberals" "right-wing nutjobs" or "republicans", it's probably a partisan shitpost. Just a general rule of thumb.
[QUOTE=GordonZombie;50794688]It's stupid, people are starving because of Maduro and the policies but left-wing people are burying their heads in the sand because they refuse to admit this. Hell, I'm left-wind but christ, it's equally as bad as the ignorance of the right-wind idiots who like to throw their weight around.
I really don't know why people aren't actively fighting against Maduro. I mean, jesus, why haven't the military enacted a coup if it's got to the point where they're starving? The guy and his power base need to be dragged out of office.[/QUOTE]
The military isn't starving, I think that's the whole deal. The officers are far from being starved, they are deliberately selected for their ideological purity, or just out of sheer nepotism. A military uprising is very unlikely to come from the upper echelons of the military caste, and you can't honestly expect a bunch of NCOs to come together and organize a coup.
The opposition is similarly unwilling to actually knock Maduro out of power because they know that they will be inheriting an economically, socially and politically unstable country with very little adherence to the law and a whole load of paramilitary groups against them, thus, they're not actively acting to remove it. They organize protests and marches which are destined to fail, infamously they've organized 5 marches now that were supposed to go from Bello Monte to downtown Caracas, a nearly 5km walk that is of course impossible to complete because police forces can easily blockade any and all entrances to the downtown.
The end result is that the average Venezuelan is the one getting fucked, caught in the country's death spiral as the failed government of Maduro devolves into more and more insane policies, including [url=http://www.caracaschronicles.com/2016/07/27/great-leap-forward/]state sponsored slavery[/url]. The Venezuelan has been dominated, brainwashed into being subservient, thinking that he or she has no power to change the situation they live in as they are unable to stand against the greatly militarized government using only the oppositions failed "civic" tactics.
I've said it before, there will be no peaceful end to the Venezuelan crisis.
[QUOTE=Big Bang;50794812]The military isn't starving, I think that's the whole deal. The officers are far from being starved, they are deliberately selected for their ideological purity, or just out of sheer nepotism. A military uprising is very unlikely to come from the upper echelons of the military caste, and you can't honestly expect a bunch of NCOs to come together and organize a coup.
The opposition is similarly unwilling to actually knock Maduro out of power because they know that they will be inheriting an economically, socially and politically unstable country with very little adherence to the law and a whole load of paramilitary groups against them, thus, they're not actively acting to remove it. They organize protests and marches which are destined to fail, infamously they've organized 5 marches now that were supposed to go from Bello Monte to downtown Caracas, a nearly 5km walk that is of course impossible to complete because police forces can easily blockade any and all entrances to the downtown.
The end result is that the average Venezuelan is the one getting fucked, caught in the country's death spiral as the failed government of Maduro devolves into more and more insane policies, including [url=http://www.caracaschronicles.com/2016/07/27/great-leap-forward/]state sponsored slavery[/url]. The Venezuelan has been dominated, brainwashed into being subservient, thinking that he or she has no power to change the situation they live in as they are unable to stand against the greatly militarized government using only the oppositions failed "civic" tactics.
I've said it before, there will be no peaceful end to the Venezuelan crisis.[/QUOTE]
I'm so glad you made it to Sweden, no one deserves to go through that.
[QUOTE=Headhumpy;50794293]Facepunch leftists: 'it's not REAL socialism, CORRUPTION did this to Venezuela. REAL socialism wouldn't have any corruption and will be a perfect utopia'[/QUOTE]
Nobody even started this argument and you had to come in and shit everywhere with political sewage that nobody wants to see.
Take your garbage somewhere else and stop being a polluting shitstain with your garbage strawman fallacies and your worthless asinine polemic.
Are there even "true" socialist or capitalist policies?
As I see it, there's only "policies", motivated by ideals such as socialism or capitalism, or sometimes corruption.
No country have ever been "truly" socialist or communist."True" capitalism also died decades ago.
Hell, it could be argued that no political ideology have ever brought the intended consequences of that ideology. Beause often political ideologies have various branches and variants and few of them take real world factors into account. Ideology alone cannot prevent corruption.
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