Three-year-old girl beheaded with meat cleaver in 'random' attack - Polidicks

[QUOTE]"I saw the man come up to my daughter and thought he was helping her, but when I approached them I saw the man hacking at my daughter’s neck. "The first thing I did was grab hold of the man, but I wasn’t able to stop him, all I could do was hold him and stop him from escaping, while calling for help."[/QUOTE] [URL="https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/656179/Taiwan-girl-beheaded-meat-clever-Taipei"]I'm gonna go cry now.[/URL]

What kind of fucking sad and sick sack of shit does this. Jesus Christ.

Say what you will but I hope they hang him by his neck

[QUOTE=Michael haxz;50026333]Say what you will but I hope they hang him by his neck[/QUOTE] I think feeding him feet first into the world's slowest wood chipper is preferable

[QUOTE=Trebgarta;50026388]He has a history of drug abuse and mental illness. "Hanging him by the neck" or "slowest wood chipper" might prove a nice feel-good measure but there is someone [I]else[/I] out there responsible for this man being out on the streets all alone with a meat cleaver.[/QUOTE] Hang them too!

[QUOTE=Michael haxz;50026333]Say what you will but I hope they hang him by his neck[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Aphtonites;50026387]I think feeding him feet first into the world's slowest wood chipper is preferable[/QUOTE] watch yourselves on that edge

[QUOTE=Scot;50026417]watch yourselves on that edge[/QUOTE] Yes, don't want to accidentally fall into the wood chipper.

This is really upsetting, my daughter just turned 3 :(

[quote]The man has been identified as Wang, 33, by local media. [/quote] Never have I seen a more appropriate name. Lightheartedness aside, what the actual fuck. I feel horrible for the mother and grandmother. :(

[QUOTE=Scot;50026417]watch yourselves on that edge[/QUOTE] What edge? This man committed one of the most heinous crimes that you can commit in the most despicable manner while the victim's family helplessly watched. He should be handed the heaviest punishment that the court can legally give him. Regardless of my opinion, I will stand by the court's decision.

[QUOTE=Michael haxz;50026455]What edge? This man committed one of the most heinous crimes that you can commit in the most despicable manner while the victim's family helplessly watched. He should be handed the heaviest punishment that the court can legally give him. Regardless of my opinion, I will stand by the court's decision.[/QUOTE] "Wang had an arrest record for drug crimes and had been treated for mental illness", He definitely needs locked up, but not in a jail cell.

[QUOTE=Scot;50026417]watch yourselves on that edge[/QUOTE] I think it's considerably more contrarian to try and side with a killer. Most people I know think the way of both of your posts. You're the "edgy" one, man. (And boy do I hate how the word "edgy" has changed.)

Man, I wish this psycho asshole was given a...swift and merciful death.

[QUOTE=Nerts;50026533]"Wang had an arrest record for drug crimes and had been treated for mental illness", He definitely needs locked up, but not in a jail cell.[/QUOTE] I used to think that criminals should be rehabilitated at all times, but we really don't get anything out of their rehabilitation. A lot of the time, it's taking on a hassle for someone that is very probably a lost cause and undeserving when their crimes are considered. He isn't worth more than the life of that little girl. It's an unfortunate truth, but I don't see the benefits of saving all life. This will only be intensified more if they find he was on drugs at the time.

[QUOTE=wauterboi;50026566]I think it's considerably more contrarian to try and side with a killer. Most people I know think the way of both of your posts. You're the "edgy" one, man. (And boy do I hate how the word "edgy" has changed.)[/QUOTE] Then most people you know are fucked in the head. Executing mentally handicapped people isn't okay in my books.

[QUOTE=Scot;50026576]Then most people you know are fucked in the head. Executing mentally handicapped people isn't okay in my books.[/QUOTE] I'm pretty indifferent. If they're at the point that they're killing or raping people, perhaps we should consider why even bothering with them. It looks like this guy spiraled downward and it takes a lot of effort to bring him out of something he may even be responsible for, aka drugs. Even if he isn't, we aren't up to speed in terms of psychology to save this guy, so it would be better to advocate for psychological research and changes in laws for any rehabilitation to even take place, but again I'm just apathetic to this person's life. I view life in terms of quality and not quality, and I even feel bad in someway for serial killers and other criminals that are generally pushed to that point. But I also think there's no realistic way to save them with where we're at in this point and time and I don't think they're all worth saving.

[QUOTE=Scot;50026576]Then most people you know are fucked in the head. Executing mentally handicapped people isn't okay in my books.[/QUOTE] Execution isn't the same as deliberately painful execution, which is what the woodchipper guy suggested. Other one is somewhat righteous, other one is pants-on-the-head sadistic.

[QUOTE=wauterboi;50026566]I think it's considerably more contrarian to try and side with a killer. Most people I know think the way of both of your posts. You're the "edgy" one, man. (And boy do I hate how the word "edgy" has changed.)[/QUOTE] He's not even siding with the killer. He's just saying that excecution is wrong, at least in his opinion.

[QUOTE=wauterboi;50026575]I used to think that criminals should be rehabilitated at all times, but we really don't get anything out of their rehabilitation. A lot of the time, it's taking on a hassle for someone that is very probably a lost cause and undeserving when their crimes are considered. He isn't worth more than the life of that little girl. It's an unfortunate truth, but I don't see the benefits of saving all life. This will only be intensified more if they find he was on drugs at the time.[/QUOTE] Because I don't like the idea of someone having the power to decide if someone lives or dies given that people make mistakes and would prefer the option of the state being able to have it's citizens killed be off the table completely. And the state has a duty of care to people they imprison, if you're going to be serving a jail term, the prison service should be obliged to provide whatever healthcare you need since you can't get it yourself due to being in prison.

[QUOTE=Nerts;50026613]Because I don't like the idea of someone having the power to decide if someone lives or dies given that people make mistakes and would prefer the option of the state being able to have it's citizens killed be off the table completely. And the state has a duty of care to people they imprison, if you're going to be serving a jail term, the prison service should be obliged to provide whatever healthcare you need since you can't get it yourself due to being in prison.[/QUOTE] I agree, after the imminent threat has been dealt with there should be no need for an execution. While I can condone armed forces using lethal force should the situation call for it I cannot condone killing what is now effectively a helpless person. Sure, what this man has done is abhorrent and cannot be justified but his outward actions are a symptom of a larger problem, namely his untreated mental health and drug issues. Executing the man merely remedies these symptoms when the actual problem is still at large. In this case it was a failure on the various services responsible for treating people like this. Every time that system fails it brings about the chance that another person who could otherwise be a functional member of society might suddenly hear the voice of god and grab the nearest sharp object. Now I'm not saying that anyone else is therefore responsible for what happened but what I want to say is that it's more important to treat the cause of these issue than just remedy the symptoms.

[QUOTE=wauterboi;50026566]I think it's considerably more contrarian to try and side with a killer. Most people I know think the way of both of your posts. You're the "edgy" one, man. (And boy do I hate how the word "edgy" has changed.)[/QUOTE] Not supporting torture and pointless death does not mean that you are "siding" with the killer. It just means you don't support torture and pointless death. As horrifying as the crime this guy committed is, "slowly feeding him feet first into a wood chipper" does nothing to undo it. It's just ugly, pointless revenge.

[QUOTE=Scot;50026576]Then most people you know are fucked in the head. Executing mentally handicapped people isn't okay in my books.[/QUOTE] You must take responsibility for your actions, regardless of disabilities, especially when a three year old child is dead as a result.

People only support torture and the death penalty for when it's for someone they hate Either support it full stop or don't support it at all

[QUOTE=Michael haxz;50026718]You must take responsibility for your actions, regardless of disabilities, especially when a three year old child is dead as a result.[/QUOTE] How can you take responsibility for something if you're dead?

[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;50026706]Not supporting torture and pointless death does not mean that you are "siding" with the killer. It just means you don't support torture and pointless death. As horrifying as the crime this guy committed is, "slowly feeding him feet first into a wood chipper" does nothing to undo it. It's just ugly, pointless revenge.[/QUOTE] Yeah, I apologize for the shitty wording. From the point of view from most of my friends and family, that's how they would see it. I really disapprove of the death penalty just because I don't want the government to have that power. That's really it though. I don't care about this guy's life. He had to let himself fall to the point regardless of how shitty the society surrounding him is. If you feel bad for the guy, donate to psychology or take up the profession. Work on a revolution that makes people care for mental health. There's no reason to be attached to this guy though - he isn't a test of your principles. [editline]29th March 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Duck M.;50026729]People only support torture and the death penalty for when it's for someone they hate Either support it full stop or don't support it at all[/QUOTE] If they could live a life of endless psychological examination, I would choose that. Since that isn't an option, I'm not really bothered by people doing whatever to this guy. I don't see it as stooping or whatever. I just don't think that it could be fairly regulated, which is the only thing stopping me from standing for it.

[QUOTE=Duck M.;50026729]People only support torture and the death penalty for when it's for someone they hate Either support it full stop or don't support it at all[/QUOTE] There's also a difference between supporting death penalty and venting due to being upset.

Well, here's another approach: could anyone provide a solid case why I should care about this guy or sparing his life? I used to be on the opposite side of the argument until a friend challenges me with that and I couldn't answer with anything other than baseless principles.

this shit must be beyond traumatizing holy shit. best wishes to the mother and grandmother.

an extreme response to an extreme situation like this is completely appropriate. people saying saying he should be killed this or that way aren't actually bloodthirsty murderers.

[QUOTE=Xephio;50027008]an extreme response to an extreme situation like this is completely appropriate. people saying saying he should be killed this or that way aren't actually bloodthirsty murderers.[/QUOTE] exactly. i'm sure if people on this thread saw a family member die right in front of them in such a brutal way would want the culprit to be killed straight off as well.