Canadian special forces help fight off 'significant' ISIL attack in Iraq - Polidicks

[t]http://www.ctvnews.ca/polopoly_fs/1.1993510.1409949448!/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_960/image.jpg[/t] [QUOTE]Canadian special forces and Kurdish troops have fought off a significant Islamic State ground offensive in northern Iraq, a Canadian general revealed Thursday night. Major-Gen. Charles Lamarre said Islamic State forces launched a “fairly concentrated and well co-ordinated attack” on Wednesday on the Kurdish lines where Canadian special forces are located. The fighting went throughout the night and Kurdish troops, backed by the Canadians, were able to push back the Islamic State attackers by Thursday. There were no Canadian casualties, said Lamarre, director of staff for the Canadian Forces Strategic Joint Staff. A number of Kurdish soldiers were killed or wounded. Kurdish officials said around 70 militants with the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant — or ISIL — were killed during the battles in at least five locations along the Kurdish lines, north and east of Mosul. Two CF-18 fighter jets were also involved in helping push back the offensive. U.S., British and French fighter jets also took part. Canadian special forces soldiers have previously called in airstrikes on ISIL targets, and its snipers have shot and killed ISIL gunmen. But this was the most significant military action the Canadians have yet faced in this mission. Asked how many ISIL troops were involved in the attack, Lamarre responded: “A significant number. I would say in the hundreds.” He noted that ISIL suicide bombers driving in vehicles also took part in the attack. The offensive took the Kurds and Canadians by surprise and ISIL was able to make multiple excursions into the Kurdish areas. Lamarre said Canadian special forces were involved in the fighting “right from the word go.” During a counter-offensive led by the Kurds Thursday morning the Canadians provided support fire, he said. “They (the Kurds) came under effective fire and our guys were close enough and able to respond with fire onto those ISIL positions,” Lamarre noted. Canada has around 69 special-forces soldiers in northern Iraq training Kurdish troops. The Canadian task group there has been made up of soldiers from the Ottawa-based Joint Task Force 2 counter-terrorism unit as well as the Canadian Special Operations Regiment from Petawawa. The use of the CF-18s in battling back the ISIL offensive will likely fuel further debate about the Liberal government’s plan to withdraw the fighter jets from the mission. Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has said his government intends to keep that election promise and instead beef up the number of Canadian training troops involved in the Iraq mission. No date has yet been set for the withdrawal of the CF-18s and Lamarre said the military is still awaiting orders from the government on that. [B]Lamarre noted that the Canadians were in an advisory role and that “the principal combatants were the Kurdish security forces.”[/B] [/QUOTE] [URL]http://ottawacitizen.com/news/national/defence-watch/breaking-canadian-special-forces-in-ground-battle-with-isil-in-northern-iraq[/URL]

From the grudging behest of Prince Justin of course.

Fuck em up!

[QUOTE=StrykerE;49344483]Lamarre noted that the Canadians were in an advisory role and that “the principal combatants were the Kurdish security forces.”[/QUOTE] So, by this they mean that the Canadians shot some of them, but it was mostly the Kurdish doing the fighting? If they are just fighting along side each other, and the Canadians bring jets, I'd take that as a bit more than an advisory role.

Trudeau, I didn't vote you in for this. Get out of the east and let the UK and US get destroyed. We're not getting involved in this shit again.

[QUOTE=pentium;49344683]Trudeau, I didn't vote you in for this. Get out of the east and let the UK and US get destroyed. We're not getting involved in this shit again.[/QUOTE] "Get destroyed"? I don't think that's very likely. But if you have no interest in defending the world against a significant threat to every nation including your own, then that's your opinion I suppose.

[QUOTE=pentium;49344683] Get out of the east and let the UK and US get destroyed[/QUOTE] Wow, nice camaraderie buddy

[QUOTE=pentium;49344683]Get out of the east and let the UK and US get destroyed.[/QUOTE] what do you mean by this?

[QUOTE=Zenreon117;49344587]So, by this they mean that the Canadians shot some of them, but it was mostly the Kurdish doing the fighting? If they are just fighting along side each other, and the Canadians bring jets, I'd take that as a bit more than an advisory role.[/QUOTE] When it comes to Special Forces doing advisory roles, they take up roles of being instructors, so that does mean that they were side by side with these fighters but its likely that they were attached to the commanders and are still largely dispersed. I mean, theyre still within their means to actually defend themselves. Not to mention that Canada already have air assets in the area bombing economy targets so it would make sense for them to be available to their guys on the ground if the situation is needed.

I'm sorry but the only reason we have issues with the east at all is because fucking Harper dragged us in. We have absolutely no reason to be out there other than to keep those two countries happy. Afghanistan? Sure, we all had reason to go there. Iraq? No. ISIS? Fuck no. They only exist because those two aren't satisfied, plus the hellbent elimination of the western world because of just how badly they fucked up the last two wars. I refuse to support any level of overseas conflict simple because we are "part of the team." Canada has its own agenda. You can assert MAD if you so desire.

Still don't see how the US/UK are going to get destroyed.

[QUOTE=pentium;49344774]I'm sorry but the only reason we have issues with the east at all is because fucking Harper dragged us in. We have absolutely no reason to be out there other than to keep those two countries happy. Afghanistan? Sure, we all had reason to go there. Iraq? No. ISIS? Fuck no. They only exist because those two aren't satisfied, plus the hellbent elimination of the western world because of just how badly they fucked up the last two wars. I refuse to support any level of overseas conflict simple because we are "part of the team." Canada has its own agenda. You can assert MAD if you so desire.[/QUOTE] If you want to cower in your holes while pretending that ISIS wouldn't obliterate you given half a chance then do so. We'll win, with or without you. But this [B]is[/B] a conflict for the world, and anyone and everyone should do their part in eradicating this most dangerous threat.

[QUOTE=pentium;49344774]I'm sorry but the only reason we have issues with the east at all is because fucking Harper dragged us in. We have absolutely no reason to be out there other than to keep those two countries happy. Afghanistan? Sure, we all had reason to go there. Iraq? No. ISIS? Fuck no. They only exist because those two aren't satisfied, plus the hellbent elimination of the western world because of just how badly they fucked up the last two wars. I refuse to support any level of overseas conflict simple because we are "part of the team." Canada has its own agenda. You can assert MAD if you so desire.[/QUOTE] Even if intervening in the east did create this problem (it didn't), pulling out isn't going to accomplish anything. As the world turns, it becomes easier for one person to kill millions. We are one coup away from people with the mentality of the 9/11 hijackers getting access to nuclear weapons. What do we do?

And then they weren't sorry.

[QUOTE=Lium;49344697]"Get destroyed"? I don't think that's very likely. But if you have no interest in defending the world against a significant threat to every nation including your own, then that's your opinion I suppose.[/QUOTE] Although I can see where this mentality comes from, is it really self defence if you're attacking your mugger in his own home?

[QUOTE=BlazeFresh;49348987]Although I can see where this mentality comes from, is it really self defence if you're attacking your mugger in his own home?[/QUOTE] did u really just compare ISIS to muggers lol

[QUOTE=pentium;49344774]I'm sorry but the only reason we have issues with the east at all is because fucking Harper dragged us in. We have absolutely no reason to be out there other than to keep those two countries happy. Afghanistan? Sure, we all had reason to go there. Iraq? No. ISIS? Fuck no. They only exist because those two aren't satisfied, plus the hellbent elimination of the western world because of just how badly they fucked up the last two wars. I refuse to support any level of overseas conflict simple because we are "part of the team." Canada has its own agenda. You can assert MAD if you so desire.[/QUOTE] And what if a tragedies like the ones in France and the one in San Bernardino happens in Canada? People and politicians are going to want blood, so why wait for something like that to happen? Tackle them in the Middle East while you can and prevent their influence from getting that far. Help your allied countries destroy a group that threatens the entire world, basically.

[QUOTE=SonicHitman;49349192]And what if a tragedies like the ones in France and the one in San Bernardino happens in Canada? People and politicians are going to want blood, so why wait for something like that to happen? Tackle them in the Middle East while you can and prevent their influence from getting that far. Help your allied countries destroy a group that threatens the entire world, basically.[/QUOTE] The Paris attacks happened [I]because[/I] France was already involved against ISIS. Not the other way around.

[QUOTE=pentium;49344774]I'm sorry but the only reason we have issues with the east at all is because fucking Harper dragged us in. We have absolutely no reason to be out there other than to keep those two countries happy. Afghanistan? Sure, we all had reason to go there. Iraq? No. ISIS? Fuck no. They only exist because those two aren't satisfied, plus the hellbent elimination of the western world because of just how badly they fucked up the last two wars. I refuse to support any level of overseas conflict simple because we are "part of the team." Canada has its own agenda. You can assert MAD if you so desire.[/QUOTE] IS exists because of people like you wanting to pull out prematurely.

[QUOTE=Kljunas;49349234]The Paris attacks happened [I]because[/I] France was already involved against ISIS. Not the other way around.[/QUOTE] Don't kid yourself. Daesh doesn't need a reason to attack anyone. They perpetrate their atrocities solely because they can.

[QUOTE=pentium;49344774]I'm sorry but the only reason we have issues with the east at all is because fucking Harper dragged us in. We have absolutely no reason to be out there other than to keep those two countries happy.[/QUOTE] What. Being a good global citizen isn't a reason? Preventing the Kurds from getting genocided isn't either? There are plenty of good reasons to stay involved in the war.

They can stay in war for all they want. Just don't whine when the ball returns from the other side of the court

[QUOTE=pentium;49344683]Trudeau, I didn't vote you in for this. Get out of the east and let the UK and US get destroyed. We're not getting involved in this shit again.[/QUOTE] You're never [I]not [/I]going to be "involved in this shit" ever again. Welcome to 4th generation warfare.