[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0DT6uljSbg&feature=related[/media]
I'm pissing myself right now
The creation of the universe made the law of cause and effect.
[QUOTE=BlackBirdNL;34663387]The creation of the universe made the law of cause and effect.[/QUOTE]
that doesn't make any sense
mmm, delicious disagrees
We don't have enough evidence to say where matter came from(I may be wrong here) but we do have evidence on how the gods for Islam,Christianity and Jewish beliefs cannot exist
I'm not sure about the buddhist,hindus and so on but thats what I think about the matter.
I never argue about this shit. In the end, they're all theories. People can believe what they want. Let's all just be bros.
[QUOTE=Matrix374;34663487]We don't have enough evidence to say where matter came from(I may be wrong here) but we do have evidence on how the gods for Islam,Christianity and Jewish beliefs cannot exist
I'm not sure about the buddhist,hindus and so on but thats what I think about the matter.[/QUOTE]
There is no evidence to say that any gods don't exist. There is just a lack of ANY evidence that it does exist.
Same goes for Hinduism, and while Buddhism is Agnosticly Atheist they are intensely spiritual, and there is a lack of evidence for whether or not any of their concepts exist or not.
dude my brother is dead his head just exploded
[QUOTE=Shugo;34663525]I never argue about this shit. In the end, they're all theories. People can believe what they want. Let's all just be bros.[/QUOTE]
Don't what to be a dick, but a theory is more than just some idea some guy came up with after pondering a subject for an hour. The BBT has a lot going for it, and it syncs with a lot of scientific studies.
But yeah, people should get over what other people believe in.
[QUOTE=Shugo;34663525]I never argue about this shit. In the end, they're all theories. People can believe what they want. Let's all just be bros.[/QUOTE]
Theories must be based upon logic,reasoning and evidence.
Religion lacks all of those things.
[QUOTE=znk666;34663700]Theories must be based upon logic,reasoning and evidence.
Religion lacks all of those things.[/QUOTE]
Let's not start this shit again.
[QUOTE=RaptorBlackz;34663734]Let's not start this shit again.[/QUOTE]
I am sorry, but is this some kind of universal defense for religion? The points he made are valid, none of those are found in religion.
[QUOTE=nask;34663764]I am sorry, but is this some kind of universal defense for religion? The points he made are valid, none of those are found in religion.[/QUOTE]
No im just saying, There's plenty of other threads to argue about religion.
Just have a laugh and move on.
[QUOTE=Mr. N;34663584]Don't what to be a dick, but a theory is more than just some idea some guy came up with after pondering a subject for an hour. The BBT has a lot going for it, and it syncs with a lot of scientific studies.
But yeah, people should get over what other people believe in.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=znk666;34663700]Theories must be based upon logic,reasoning and evidence.
Religion lacks all of those things.[/QUOTE]
How did I know that people would pull apart my usage of the word theory just to argue with me? That's not the point at all.
The point is that, in the context of two regular Joes flinging shit at each other, what difference does arguing each other's beliefs over the genesis of the universe make? I've had one friend hate another friend over this kind of shit. [i]Who fucking cares?[/i] Does it really make a difference, relationship-wise, what other people believe? Especially on a topic like this where there is no conclusive right answer.
When it comes to 'important people' arguing for the sake of what gets put in the databases of history as 'the right answer', it matters. But when it's two people who otherwise would have a great time getting along together if not for their utter hatred of one another's inconsequential beliefs, it's [i]fucking dumb[/i].
All I have to say, is that if their is a god, He is a massive dick.
String theory hooray.
I don't care about what people bellieve or not... but here is the answer.
[video=youtube;WQhd05ZVYWg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQhd05ZVYWg[/video]
Basically, and in short, Quantum Physics - Anything can hapen anywhere, at anytime for no reason, thats how the universe came to be. Our rules of nature, (like cause and effect), don't apply before the big bang because they did not existed.
So the guy in the video is quite right, everything was created from nothing, but god was not the one to do it.
[sp]The guy I mean is the one in OP's video[/sp]
[QUOTE=topic10;34664179]the guy in the video[/QUOTE]
One does not simply address Mr. Hawking as 'the guy in the video'
[QUOTE=RaptorBlackz;34663783]No im just saying, There's plenty of other threads to argue about religion.
Just have a laugh and move on.[/QUOTE]
I will not have a laugh when millions are dying in religious wars.
[QUOTE=Within;34664349]One does not simply address Mr. Hawking as 'the guy in the video'[/QUOTE]
I think he's talking about the religious guy is the OP's video.
[QUOTE=Within;34664349]One does not simply address Mr. Hawking as 'the guy in the video'[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=pedrus24;34664589]I think he's talking about the religious guy is the OP's video.[/QUOTE]
Yep this...
What's infinitely more amusing than the video are the comments, and all the responses.
I love how they try and make the atheist seem completely stupid as if all atheists are the same
and you can apply that argument against god as well, what a stupid fucking argument
"What created the energy FOR the big bang?"
"What created GOD?"
really what it boils down to it no one fucking knows what caused the big bang, stop trying to guess, and stop trying to act like you know the "truth" just believe in what sounds the best, don't force it upon everyone. This video is terribly one sided and completely a strawman
it's a complete paradox to even argue that, and cause and effect is a stupid law when not applied purely physically. It's also stupid to ignore science when your religious, and ignore religion to favor science.
Creationism
Lets Test Them: Evolution vs. Creationism
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9V_2r2n4b5c[/url]
Evolution IS a Blind Watchmaker
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcAq9bmCeR0[/url]
What Every Creationist Must DENY
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nj587d5ies[/url]
Top Ten Creationist Arguments
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSxgnu3Hww8[/url]
A Priest mocks creationism
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYQuvwQ4y-k[/url]
How To Shut Up Pesky Creationists
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dK3O6KYPmEw[/url]
The Story of Creation
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ah5xFMYbP4s[/url]
lets see them reply to this.
Science sounds more convincing because it has proof for most stuff and I prefer it.I mean I have a fucking monitor infront of me that is 100% fucking science,I wouldn't get shit from praying.The whole god thing is stupid anyway.
[QUOTE=Uncle Bourbon;34663466]that doesn't make any sense[/QUOTE]
Well, uh...
@ 1:14 " Where did the original matter and energy come from that started the big bang? "
Pretty much an uneducated opinion, but it could have been just dark matter or dark energy. And if you had an universe 100% of just dark it wouldn't really have a size either, probably very energetic too.. Anyway, until it all went Big Bang.
(And that "theory" is actually kinda the idea of one episode in Futurama, where they travel in to the future. But it was about Big Bang happening over and over again because the time machine wasn't accurate..)
[QUOTE=znk666;34663700]Theories must be based upon logic,reasoning and evidence.
Religion lacks all of those things.[/QUOTE]
I may be an Athiest, But,
[video=youtube;0la5DBtOVNI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0la5DBtOVNI[/video]
[QUOTE=topic10;34664179]Basically, and in short, Quantum Physics - Anything can hapen anywhere, at anytime for no reason,[/QUOTE]
Also, eat plenty of oatmeal, and animals never had a war! Who's the [I]real[/I] animals?
If someone says God made the big bang, he couldn't have. There was no time before the big bang happened. It can't be possible for God to be made before time even existed, so the big bang had to have happened before god were to be created.
[QUOTE=GameDev;34665528]I may be an Athiest, But,
[video=youtube;0la5DBtOVNI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0la5DBtOVNI[/video][/QUOTE]
How am i a dick?
What i have stated is a mere fact.
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