Trump tells Kimmel he'd be willing to debate Sanders for charity
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[QUOTE]Kimmel asked Trump if he'd be willing to debate Sanders, given that Hillary Clinton had turned her primary opponent down for a California debate. Trump declared he would -- as long as the proceeds go to charity.
As he accepted the hypothetical debate, Trump asked, perhaps jokingly, how much Sanders would be willing to pay him -- for charity -- then conceded that it would be fine if a network were willing to put up the money. Trump also said he has never met Sanders.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]Sanders took to Twitter right away with his response:
Game on. I look forward to debating Donald Trump in California before the June 7 primary.[/QUOTE]
this gon b gud
That's a pretty smart play considering Hillary's recent drama with refusing to debate.
is it finally happening? have my prays gone answered?
This is legitimately awesome!
HYPED
time to see what bants Trump will bring to Crazy Bernie
I'd love for this to happen.
Trump will interrupt sanders over and over and he won't do anything and trump will bash him and he'll still do nothing.
Watch this actually make a difference, not just in California, but at the DNC. Then again Trump might not take it seriously which would suck.
[editline]25th May 2016[/editline]
Now that I think about it, it might be a chessmove for trump to throw this debate in order to get Bernie (which I assume he thinks he can beat easily).
Watch it be both of them ripping on Hillary for an hour and a half.
Which doesn't seem like a bad idea, really.
[QUOTE=Zenreon117;50393840]Watch this actually make a difference, not just in California, but at the DNC. Then again Trump might not take it seriously which would suck.
[editline]25th May 2016[/editline]
Now that I think about it, it might be a chessmove for trump to throw this debate in order to get Bernie (which I assume he thinks he can beat easily).[/QUOTE]
Also if he lets bernie beat him it'd make hillary seem like the weaker candidate against trump, thus making people even madder if bernie doesn't get the nomination. 4 dimensional chess.
[QUOTE=Zenreon117;50393840]Watch this actually make a difference, not just in California, but at the DNC. Then again Trump might not take it seriously which would suck.
[editline]25th May 2016[/editline]
Now that I think about it, it might be a chessmove for trump to throw this debate in order to get Bernie (which I assume he thinks he can beat easily).[/QUOTE]
Maybe Trump knows that if Clinton is on the DNC ticket, he'll be slaughtered by the media of being sexist with debating against her which could ruin his image, whereas that won't be the case with Sanders
But Trump has been on the record of saying he feels bad for Bernie because the system is so fucked
[QUOTE=Zenreon117;50393840]Watch this actually make a difference, not just in California, but at the DNC. Then again Trump might not take it seriously which would suck.
[editline]25th May 2016[/editline]
Now that I think about it, it might be a chessmove for trump to throw this debate in order to get Bernie (which I assume he thinks he can beat easily).[/QUOTE]
I don't think trump has it in him to lose on purpose
[QUOTE=fruxodaily;50393874][B]Maybe Trump knows that if Clinton is on the DNC ticket, he'll be slaughtered by the media of being sexist with debating against her [/B]which could ruin his image, whereas that won't be the case with Sanders[/QUOTE]
What rock have you been under for the past year or so?
Trump has explicitly said numerous times he would rather run against Clinton than Bernie.
[media]https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/727796025247846400[/media]
Bernie is out, Trump gets to debate someone that will not be challenging him while;
1) Doing it for charity (PR)
2) Doing it while Hillary has refused to
Trump is using this mostly for self-promotion, he can make himself look even bigger and get more talking points out. He hasn't had a debate recently, so there is no more Bush or Rubio or Cruz or anyone for him to play off to increase visibility and make his rating climb faster. It also allows him to debate the Democratic party without actually dealing with Clinton herself, he basically would get a free punch in before the conventions.
Trump is using the same old tactic hes been using throughout the whole campaign: Just do whatever, who cares
[QUOTE=fruxodaily;50393874]
But Trump has been on the record of saying he feels bad for Bernie because the system is so fucked[/QUOTE]
Trump has been on the record about a number of contradictory things, including calling Sanders a loser, among a number of others things. Maybe Trump truly does feel a bit bad for him, but I really doubt this is motivated by anything more than a desire to hurt Clinton's numbers.
Trump is just angling for Bernie's supporters, he's going to try and turn the debate into both of them attacking Hillary and the DNC.
Sanders: "The rich billionaire class needs to pay their share!"
Trump: "No u"
This will be nothing more than an opportunity for Trump to poach more justifiably upset voters from Sanders' base. He'll use a bunch of cheap rhetoric, get Sanders to agree on some negative things about Hillary, and he'll constantly bash the DNC and Hillary to appeal to upset Sanders supporters.
I'll watch it, but I'm annoyed at Sanders for not calling this bluff. Trump will walk all over Sanders and phrase things in a way to agree with Sanders, spotlighting corruption in the political process especially. Plenty of people are ignorant enough of policy, lacking in conviction, and gullible enough to choke down on Trump's rhetoric and swing their vote to Trump, even though Hillary is much, much closer to Sanders on the vast majority of policy issues.
[editline]26th May 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=Zenreon117;50393921]Sanders: "The rich billionaire class needs to pay their share!"
Trump: "No u"[/QUOTE]
No, Trump will agree with him and then plug his tax plan as the solution, even though it does the opposite. Trump will take every opportunity to agree with Sanders' general complaints, and then highlight the difference in execution. That way, he'll be able to pin Hillary as incompetent and tell Sanders supporters that he wants the same things, just in a different way, even though it's patently untrue.
[quote]Hillary: "Wait a second, I want to debate too."
Bernie and Donald: "Only if you release the speeches"
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Shamelessly taken from reddit. would be great if B and D would do this.
[QUOTE=.Isak.;50393935]No, Trump will agree with him and then plug his tax plan as the solution, even though it does the opposite. Trump will take every opportunity to agree with Sanders' general complaints, and then highlight the difference in execution. That way, he'll be able to pin Hillary as incompetent and tell Sanders supporters that he wants the same things, just in a different way, even though it's patently untrue.[/QUOTE]
Agreed, Bernie has played into Trump's hand here.
The only way he can get through this without hurting Hillary against Trump (assuming that's how the nominations go down, which at this point seems very likely) would be to spend the whole debate attacking Trump and his policies, don't even bring up any points that Trump could agree with him on.
Which is not what Bernie wants to do, this is pretty much his last big chance to get across his own polices and gain support for them to use in the democratic convention.
[QUOTE=.Isak.;50393935]This will be nothing more than an opportunity for Trump to poach more justifiably upset voters from Sanders' base. He'll use a bunch of cheap rhetoric, get Sanders to agree on some negative things about Hillary, and he'll constantly bash the DNC and Hillary to appeal to upset Sanders supporters.
I'll watch it, but I'm annoyed at Sanders for not calling this bluff. Trump will walk all over Sanders and phrase things in a way to agree with Sanders, spotlighting corruption in the political process especially. Plenty of people are ignorant enough of policy, lacking in conviction, and gullible enough to choke down on Trump's rhetoric and swing their vote to Trump, even though Hillary is much, much closer to Sanders on the vast majority of policy issues.
[editline]26th May 2016[/editline]
No, Trump will agree with him and then plug his tax plan as the solution, even though it does the opposite. Trump will take every opportunity to agree with Sanders' general complaints, and then highlight the difference in execution. That way, he'll be able to pin Hillary as incompetent and tell Sanders supporters that he wants the same things, just in a different way, even though it's patently untrue.[/QUOTE]
It seems like at this point that Sanders really is going all in on his polling argument. The more of his supporter he can get to say they support him against Trump in a theoretical match up, but that they support Trump if it's against Clinton, the better his argument becomes. That way the disparity between the two grows greater and greater, in order to scare super delegates terrified of a President Trump into giving it to Sanders at the convention floor.
That strategy, though, probably has somewhere between a 0 and 1% chance of working, as his pledged delegate totals are still far behind, and the June contests aren't looking all that hot for him. And if it doesn't work, all he'll have done is gotten more of his supporters over onto the Republicans side come November. It's in some ways ironic, considering that Sanders really hates Ralph Nader for serving as a spoiler in 2000 that gave Bush the election over Gore, but it seems that Sanders may yet become the same thing, at least to a minor extent if he continues to be used by the Republicans like this.
I like this just because we'll get a glimpse of what a debate between the two would look like, since we all know Sanders isn't going to be nominated, it's a fun little what-if we get to watch.
honestly couldn't care less what even my own candidates have to say in the context of a conversation with donald trump. a complete fucking waste of time. trump has dick all to say about anything until a week after the fact in some charged press release when he's done consulting with people who've briefed him. we can expect some mono-fucking-syllabic trash talk that challenges the english language which the media will pan to great applause and sanders will get a brief farty wind in trump's wake amdist the doldrums of this nightmare election and everything will result inexorably in hillary with her hand on a bible on a shitty DC morning sometime in november.
[QUOTE=Kommodore;50394135]honestly couldn't care less what even my own candidates have to say in the context of a conversation with donald trump. a complete fucking waste of time. trump has dick all to say about anything until a week after the fact in some charged press release when he's done consulting with people who've briefed him. we can expect some mono-fucking-syllabic trash talk that challenges the english language which the media will pan to great applause and sanders will get a brief farty wind in trump's wake amdist the doldrums of this nightmare election and everything will result inexorably in hillary with her hand on a bible on a shitty DC morning sometime in november.[/QUOTE]
jesus christ dude did donald trump piss on your face or something lol
[QUOTE=Kommodore;50394135]honestly couldn't care less what even my own candidates have to say in the context of a conversation with donald trump. a complete fucking waste of time. trump has dick all to say about anything until a week after the fact in some charged press release when he's done consulting with people who've briefed him. we can expect some mono-fucking-syllabic trash talk that challenges the english language which the media will pan to great applause and sanders will get a brief farty wind in trump's wake amdist the doldrums of this nightmare election and everything will result inexorably in hillary with her hand on a bible on a shitty DC morning sometime in november.[/QUOTE]
you keep on saying how trump is stupid but you're really not giving yourself any advantage by saying the inauguration is in november
[QUOTE=AlienFanatic;50394183]jesus christ dude did donald trump piss on your face or something lol[/QUOTE]
a guy who builds hotels and runs a reality tv show is running for president, it really shouldn't be just me that's throwing their hands in the air
[QUOTE=Svinnik;50394204]you keep on saying how trump is stupid but you're really not giving yourself any advantage by saying the inauguration is in november[/QUOTE]
election day, inauguration, you get the idea
[QUOTE=Kommodore;50394207]a guy who builds hotels and runs a reality tv show is running for president, it really shouldn't be just me that's throwing their hands in the air[/QUOTE]
That alone does not discredit him for running for president.
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