Hey guys, I'm looking at buying some subs soon and was wondering if anyone has advice on good ones. These will be my first subs so I don't need anything incredibly over the top, just a little something to add some bass. I don't have a definite price range, but something around 200 dollars would probably be optimal. I drive a 2011 Toyota Rav 4 Sport, if that matters at all. Thanks for the help!
p.s: I know next to nothing about subs so keep that in mind when explaining things to me.
You're also going to need an amp to power them and a power wire kit to provide power to the amp. Are you factoring these pieces in with the $200 ish, or no?
We can find ya something good, though.
[QUOTE=clutch2;41993013]You're also going to need an amp to power them and a power wire kit to provide power to the amp. Are you factoring these pieces in with the $200 ish, or no?
We can find ya something good, though.[/QUOTE]
If its realistic to be able to get those and stay within that range then that would be cool. Otherwise i'd be willing to pay some more.
[QUOTE=jptalbert;42001346]If its realistic to be able to get those and stay within that range then that would be cool. Otherwise i'd be willing to pay some more.[/QUOTE]
Depends are you looking for something really for just a little bass for general sound quality listening or are you looking for something to sound good but really thump when your favorite pop/rap song comes on. Cause while 200 is pretty low you can still find suitable equipment based on your needs.
Personally I'd recommend second hand stuff if your going on budget. But you can definitely find some good stuff out there for cheap.
[QUOTE=masterwolf;42004302]Depends are you looking for something really for just a little bass for general sound quality listening or are you looking for something to sound good but really thump when your favorite pop/rap song comes on. Cause while 200 is pretty low you can still find suitable equipment based on your needs.
Personally I'd recommend second hand stuff if your going on budget. But you can definitely find some good stuff out there for cheap.[/QUOTE]
I'm looking for something to thump for sure. I can go above the 200 as well. Id rather work a few more weeks and spend some more money on something way better than just rush and buy whatever I can afford quickly.
[QUOTE=jptalbert;42004340]I'm looking for something to thump for sure. I can go above the 200 as well. Id rather work a few more weeks and spend some more money on something way better than just rush and buy whatever I can afford quickly.[/QUOTE]
Sweet. Something thats a bit over your price range but will bump would be the following. Its all brand new and available at Sonic Electronix and Knukonceptz.
NVX VSW104 at sonic electronix. Pair this with a Ground Shaker SQP 1 10 enclosure. Powered by a Cerwin-Vega HED31000.2 amplifier.
Wire this in with a [url]http://www.knukonceptz.com/productDetail.cfm?prodID=KOL-AK4[/url]. Knukonceptz is about the best wire you can get on a budget.
This goes over 200, but the main reason I chose this is because when you buy the NVX subwoofer and the ground shaker enclosure together from sonixelectronix, you get the enclosure for free. So technically thats 60 bucks saved off the actual price of the system. Plus, since each subwoofer has its own parameters for the 'best' enclosure for it (since subwoofer speakers need enclosures to in simple terms amplify the sound output) I don't like prefab (already made) boxes you can buy since they arent built specially for that subwoofer, but sonic electronix says this sub/box combo will sound good, for a budget banger system it will sound absolutely phenominal.
If you want to go cheaper though, and still sound relatively good, replace the NVX subwoofer with a RE Audio REX10D4 from sonic electronix, and the cerwin vega amp with another cerwin vega amp, just a different model, Cerwin-Vega HED3400.2. Use the same wiring kit. This won't bump as loud, but it will still sound pretty good. But I'd reccomend the first system.
[U]FIRST OPTION:[/U]
[url]http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_46319_NVX-VSW104.html[/url] [B]--> SUB[/B]
[url]https://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_62682_Ground-Shaker-SQP-1-10.html[/url] [B]--> BOX[/B]
[url]http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_68558_Cerwin-Vega-HED31000.2.html[/url] [B]-->AMP[/B]
[url]http://www.knukonceptz.com/productDetail.cfm?prodID=KOL-AK4[/url] [B]-->WIRING[/B]
[U]SECOND OPTION[/U]
[url]http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_27301_RE-Audio-REX10D4.html[/url] [B]--> SUB[/B]
[url]http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_68556_Cerwin-Vega-HED3400.2.html[/url] [B]--> AMP[/B]
[url]https://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_62682_Ground-Shaker-SQP-1-10.html[/url] [B]--> BOX[/B]
[url]http://www.knukonceptz.com/productDetail.cfm?prodID=KOL-AK4[/url] [B]-->WIRING[/B]
Can probably find two Type Rs and an amp for 250 or so used , always liked those on a budget
[QUOTE=clutch2;42015421]Can probably find two Type Rs and an amp for 250 or so used , always liked those on a budget[/QUOTE]
Yeah but thats without a box. And being that he is not experienced in the car audio field it wouldn't be a good idea to just throw him some subs and tell him to build a box unless he'd be willing to learn. And trying to pair subs with a prefab box is a terrible time and usually won't yield as good results as what you paid. Might as well use a sub/prefab box combo that a manufacturer suggests since that'll probably yeild good sound. But yes type R's definitely are a good budget sub. That and some sundown audio SA's are on the top of my list.
Could be with, could be without, you never know what you'll find on craigslist. Once it's used a box pretty much becomes a worthless 'throw it in' item if you try to sell stuff it seems like.
[QUOTE=clutch2;42022530]Could be with, could be without, you never know what you'll find on craigslist. Once it's used a box pretty much becomes a worthless 'throw it in' item if you try to sell stuff it seems like.[/QUOTE]
Actually a good point there for the op if you look on your local ads and find something like a type r box combo you could pair it with the bigger cerwin vega amp and wiring kit and you'd be bumping fo sho
Otherwise if you're in WI my friend from highschool is trying to get rid of the whole shebang for $250. lol. Two MTX 8500s (iirc) and amp and junk.. ish was loud in his hatchback :p
hey i need help with what wiring kit to get.. im getting this amp to pair with my alpine sps 610c front / 610 matching non components in the back:
[url]http://www.bestbuy.com/site/MRX+Series+710W+Class+D+Digital+Multichannel+Amplifier/4844767.p?id=1218558382724&skuId=4844767&st=alpine%20amp&cp=1&lp=1#tab=specifications[/url]
whats a solid wiring kit that i need, but would like to spend as least as possible. looking to get some kicker wiring but does the brand matter?
Brand does matter, kind of. Some brands offer better quality in the RCAs and such that they come with (twisted vs non, etc). And some brands are labeled as a certain 'gauge', but that's not to say they're true AWG (american wire gauge.)
Then there's also true oxygen free copper wire (OFC), vs copper clad aluminum (CCA). true OFC is better and more expensive.
BBY, like it sounds like you're looking at, has those nice kicker kits. But they're expensiveeeeeeeeee. Omg are they pricey, and I'm not afraid to say that, I hate how we price them.
The truconnex kits are a little less pricey, still good wiring, but the RCAs aren't anywhere near as nice.
Try ebay for a Kicker amp kit, much cheaper. The fuse holders are really nice, too.
[url]http://www.ebay.com/itm/KICKER-09PK8-8AWG-8-AWG-GAUGE-AMPLIFIER-AMP-INSTALL-INSTALLATION-KIT-2009-09-PK8-/360717132238?pt=US_Car_Audio_Video_Amplifier_Kits&hash=item53fc6aa1ce[/url]
Then you just need a 2nd pair of 2ch RCA cables.
Also, be careful when tuning that amp, it certainly could pop those Type S speakers if you give it too much gusto. Should slam, otherwise. Throw some dynamat in on the doors and rear lid if you're feeling frisky and it'll sound like a little 10" on the bass notes.
When shopping for wiring kits in general, take heed of the very cheap ones, you'll find that they're not only CCA, but all insulation and no wire inside!
check this out:
[url]http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/111488-wire-comparison-review-104awg8awg-inside/[/url]
thanks for that write up.. helped me out.
but the amp i chose has 90w x 4 at 4ohms, my speakers say they are good with 80w rms and 240 peak power. this wont be a problem will it?
i want to use these speakers to their potential.. i want it bumpin :)
i also have a kenwood unit thats got about 20 rms.. does this add on when using the amp. I definitely don't want to easily blow a speaker but at the same time i paid for 2 year warrenty from best buy on all my speakers (it includes blown speakers). my friend who works at best buy hooked it up and convinced me to get the warrentys
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I think there's a misprint on the best buy site, i think the amp gets 60w x 4, so i should be fine i think
Go figure another fuckup on the BBY site. According to Alpine it'll be 60x4, yea. That should be great for them, just shy of what they can take. 90rms would be 10rms over what they can take, and wouldn't be an unheard of thing to run, either.. just would need to keep a keen ear out to make sure you're not overpushing them. But on 60x4 you should be set.
The 20rms per channel the kenwood headunit puts out will not factor into the amp's power. That's the kenwood's internal amplifier, which is obviously far inferior to a fullsized 4ch amp like you're looking at.
If you want bumpin you picked a good set of speakers, too. For getting as much bass as possible out of 6.5's I've turned to those Type-S speakers for the last couple years now. Very bass heavy, even on 20rms from a headunit. I did 4 coaxials in a Civic a month or so ago and for just speakers (and not broken in speakers at that) it hit bass notes admirably.
What vehicle are they going in?
Also, are you planning to run a sub on that 5th channel that it gives, you, too?
yeah eventually i'll get a sub after the cost of all this digests, my gf said she would get me one for christmas
i have a 2012 chevy colorado.. the factory bumper to bumper warrenty just expired so i decided to put some money into it.
i appreciate you explaining this stuff pretty clearly, this is a first time hooking up a car stereo system
Sweet!
That'll def sound nice. Get your buddy to (secretly) get you two door boxes of Dynamat then, or online or where ever. It'll make a world of difference. One layer on the inside of the outisde door metal, and one layer on the inside of the door metal, sealing off as many of the holes and openings as possible, and then you'll really hear what those speakers can do with the power you'll be giving them.
Make sure to take your time hooking the amp up and running wires.. remove the door sills and kick panels as necessary to make it a clean job, and slit the carpet where you want to bring your wires out.. you'd be surprised how easy you can stuff your arm under carpet and push wires up through slits.
Of course run the wire through the firewall in a nice grommet, too!
Finally.. when you're all done, if the power windows or locks don't work right, disconnect the battery and let the truck reset (multiple times if necessary). For some reason the module inside those power window/ lock switches on those trucks freaks out sometimes when they're disconnected and need to be persuaded back to life.
Once all is said and done make sure all your music is of high quality.. because while a good system accurately plays a good recording to perfection.. it also will amplify a poor recording to the point of being sickening, lol!
Go on ebay and pick one of these up, they are cheap as chips and great quality.
[url]http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313&_nkw=FLI+Active+1200&_sacat=0&_from=R40[/url]
got my speakers installed and they are 10x better, but for some reason when i play my ipod hip hop tracks it makes a sort of popping/clicking noise. I thought I fucked up the install, and then made sure the wires are secure. when I tried plugging in my gf's iphone 5 with her lightning cord, we didnt hear it from either songs on her phone or pandora. i tried my ipod on pandora and the clicking wasn't there, but when i put on songs stored on my ipod the clicks were there. I changed the cord i use to plug in my ipod and and they were less noticable or non-existent.
I'm thinking about getting an aux cord.. do those cords generally transmit sound better than a USB?
It's the opposite, actually. Typically the USB cable will be better, because you're decoding from digital to analog inside the headunit with that. Aux uses the ipod's D/A converter, which isn't as robust.
Perhaps the USB cable you were using was damaged? It's tough to say. It wasn't the speakers bottoming out, was it? Shouldn't be with that amount of power, but worth listening for just in case.
However since it didn't happen with her phone, or with the other cord, it would lead me to expect the cord to be at fault.
[QUOTE=brianosaur;42070896]got my speakers installed and they are 10x better, but for some reason when i play my ipod hip hop tracks it makes a sort of popping/clicking noise. I thought I fucked up the install, and then made sure the wires are secure. when I tried plugging in my gf's iphone 5 with her lightning cord, we didnt hear it from either songs on her phone or pandora. i tried my ipod on pandora and the clicking wasn't there, but when i put on songs stored on my ipod the clicks were there. I changed the cord i use to plug in my ipod and and they were less noticable or non-existent.
I'm thinking about getting an aux cord.. do those cords generally transmit sound better than a USB?[/QUOTE]
Do you have an EQ enabled on your device? And also, do you turn the volume on the device all the way up? You could be getting input clipping. Usually it'll sound like popping on the bass/peak notes since those with the highest amplitudes get their peaks cut off.
When I plug my stuff in I disable all phone/player EQ's and use the HU's EQ's. Even if I don't get clipping, the HU's EQ will be innacurate/off since the input already is EQ'd. And I usually turn my phone about 3/4 the way. Some radios have a higher input voltage than others so full volume won't clip, but some don't. For instance my POS pioneer head unit will clip if I have it all the way up. My outlanders OEM rockford fosgate system, however, will not. Try disabling the phones EQ and turning the volume about 1/2 - 3/4 volume on the phone, and then just turning up the volume on the head unit.
[QUOTE=masterwolf;42079787]Do you have an EQ enabled on your device? And also, do you turn the volume on the device all the way up? You could be getting input clipping. Usually it'll sound like popping on the bass/peak notes since those with the highest amplitudes get their peaks cut off.
When I plug my stuff in I disable all phone/player EQ's and use the HU's EQ's. Even if I don't get clipping, the HU's EQ will be innacurate/off since the input already is EQ'd. And I usually turn my phone about 3/4 the way. Some radios have a higher input voltage than others so full volume won't clip, but some don't. For instance my POS pioneer head unit will clip if I have it all the way up. My outlanders OEM rockford fosgate system, however, will not. Try disabling the phones EQ and turning the volume about 1/2 - 3/4 volume on the phone, and then just turning up the volume on the head unit.[/QUOTE]
From what you describe with clipping, that sounds accurate.. it's more apparent with songs with pretty low bass notes. I'm gonna try what you said and see how it works. I just have to find the iPods EQ settings lol
Also, going back to the original topic, could anybody recommend a sub woofer that will pair nicely with [url="http://www.alpine-usa.com/product/view/mrx-v70?"]this amp[/url] it will put out like 250w on the fifth channel
[QUOTE=brianosaur;42121192]From what you describe with clipping, that sounds accurate.. it's more apparent with songs with pretty low bass notes. I'm gonna try what you said and see how it works. I just have to find the iPods EQ settings lol
Also, going back to the original topic, could anybody recommend a sub woofer that will pair nicely with [url="http://www.alpine-usa.com/product/view/mrx-v70?"]this amp[/url] it will put out like 250w on the fifth channel[/QUOTE]
REX10d4
That'd be overpowered by a decent bit, 350wrms from the amp, vs 175wrms power handling.
You could get the REX10d2 and wire series, and it'd only be getting 250wrms, then.
I used to like this sub, soundwise... it's not huge for power handling, but is rated higher than the amp puts out.. another option:
[url]http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_33468_Kenwood-KFC-W2513PS.html[/url]
Pioneers aren't quiiiite what they used to be.. but this would be adequate. Matches perfectly for power handling
[url]http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_63984_Pioneer-TS-W260D4.html[/url]
If you need shallow these are sweet subs:
[url]http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_18211_Pioneer-TS-SW2501S4.html[/url]
I love the way these Kicker CVRs sound, personally. This would match well
[url]http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_21880_Kicker-CVR104-10CVR104.html[/url]
And pretty much the best sub you can get here
[url]http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_24574_Boss-P106DVC.html[/url]
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